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    What Trump said or didn't say does not matter anymore. But what matters is what leftist news media told about it, quickly picked up by European leftist and mainstream media, telling US is unstable semi-dictatorship and some Europeans asking for Russia to help them I mean w.t.f. When did everything go wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    What Trump said or didn't say does not matter anymore
    ...grossly inaccurate...
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    But what matters is what leftist news media told about it
    ...all US media picks up and interprets tRump's words...
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    picked up by European leftist and mainstream media
    ...irrelevant...
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    some Europeans asking for Russia to help them
    ...nonsense...
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    When did everything go wrong?
    ...when Eve decided the apple deal looked good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    What Trump said or didn't say does not matter anymore. But what matters is what leftist news media told about it, quickly picked up by European leftist and mainstream media, telling US is unstable semi-dictatorship and some Europeans asking for Russia to help them I mean w.t.f. When did everything go wrong?
    Can you substantiate any of this?

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    ...maybe he (?) misunderstands the red avalanche...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    When did everything go wrong?
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    What Trump said or didn't say does not matter anymore
    When people decided that a pathologically lying corrupt wannabe dictator and existential threat to democracy wasn't a big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...grossly inaccurate...
    ...all US media picks up and interprets tRump's words...
    ...irrelevant...
    ...nonsense...
    ...when Eve decided the apple deal looked good...
    Instead of wrongly interpreting me and picking specific words you could have offered alternative opinion. Failing to do that, in 3 days I'm filing you in 3rd world bin unless I see reasonable response to anything at all. Consider this your first and second warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    When people decided that a pathologically lying corrupt wannabe dictator and existential threat to democracy wasn't a big deal.

    Well, it was the people who elected him. I'm not a Trump supporter, but I'm a supporter of democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    Well, it was the people who elected him. I'm not a Trump supporter, but I'm a supporter of democracy.
    It was the Electoral College, he was elected by a minority of voters, and that doesn't change or alter any of the foregoing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    Instead of wrongly interpreting me and picking specific words
    Everything you stated was incorrect, irrespective of how it was sliced and diced



    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    I'm not a Trump supporter




    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    I'm a supporter of democracy.
    So, Trump lost the election, incited a violent attack on Congress and deserves to be in jail. Good to know



    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    Well, it was the people who elected him
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    It was the Electoral College, he was elected by a minority of voters
    ^ This
    Last edited by panama hat; 24-08-2021 at 09:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    What Trump said or didn't say does not matter anymore.
    Only a trumper would overlook the devastating effects of the actions of the most malicious, egregious con man ever to have stepped foot in the WH, whether it was 600,000+ covid deaths as a result of playing games with people's lives, attempts to gut the Affordable Health Act which he promised to protect, the most agregious acts of corruption, the shredding of democracy or multiple attempts at a soft coup to name only a few. Under Trump, the US began to look more like a banana republic run by a wanna-be third world despot.

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    But what matters is what leftist news media told about it, quickly picked up by European leftist and mainstream media, telling US is unstable semi-dictatorship
    Bwahahahahaha. Conspiracy theory #8472. Btw, playing victim with "you're picking on me" is a famous trumper ploy when all else fails. Get over it and toughen up, snowflake. You lost.

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    These people truly are batshit crazy. And amazingly stupid with it.

    On Monday, NBC4 Washington reporter Scott MacFarlane flagged a new filing by Pauline Bauer, an accused Capitol rioter who allegedly demanded House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) be turned over to the crowd to be executed.

    Bauer, who represents herself and appears to be an adherent to the so-called "sovereign citizen" movement, has previously demanded the court "Drop all charges against my VESSEL" and quoted the Bible in her defense.

    Her latest filing is no less bizarre, according to MacFarlane.


    "I know you are new to this case but I retain my right to self determination," she wrote. "The court is aware of the Cestui Que Ve trust that I am Executor of and retain my rights to contract when I choose to under Admiralty Law. I challenge the courts [sic] jurisdiction and dominion over a living soul."


    She also demanded that the police turn over "a copy of your malfeasance and malpractice insurance so I may make a future tort claim" for arresting people "without due process of law."


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    "sovereign citizen" movement advocates the theory that people can act as their own government, and therefore are outside the jurisdiction of most of the laws laid out by the United States. To date, courts have not endorsed these ideas.
    Capitol rioter tells court it has no 'dominion over a living soul' in bizarre filing - Raw Story - Celebrating 17 Years of Independent Journalism

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    That bitch is nuts full stop. She owns a pizza shop in Pennsylvania.

    Capitol riot arrest of restaurant owner rattles hometown - ABC News

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    ^From the article:

    Can't ever have enough flags in a restaurant . . . especially to cover up wall paintings . . . nice touch . . . or is it because they're so inbred they need reminding of where they live?

    Even so, some in Kane have stood by Bauer, who insists her actions haven’t cost her any friendships or harmed her business. On a recent Wednesday evening, tables at her restaurant were filled by her regular customers.“She’s a human being who stood up for her rights. She should have a right to stand up for what she believes in,” said Glenn Robinson, 68.


    Bauer was arrested in May along with Blauser, a Vietnam War veteran and retired mail carrier. Surveillance video shows the two of them entering the Capitol through an east Rotunda door where at least three police officers were trying to block entry. Video from a police officer’s body camera captured Bauer saying to bring out Pelosi, the Democratic speaker of the House.

    “Bring them out now. They’re criminals. They need to hang,” she said.

    I believe people should have the right to ransack the 68-year old Geln Robinson's house every second Tuesday and twice on Sundays because . . . that's what people believe in.

    Fuckwits

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    ^ These lunatics think that looking for fanfare and making more trouble will bode well for her, not realizing that she and others like her will pay a heavy price for her actions and attitude. I hope she spends a few years behind bars, after which her little fan club will disappear and move on with life while she is left with nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    ^ These lunatics think that looking for fanfare and making more trouble will bode well for her, not realizing that she and others like her will pay a heavy price for her actions and attitude. I hope she spends a few years behind bars, after which her little fan club will disappear and move on with life while she is left with nothing.
    Unfortunately I disagree with you. If she asked them to participate they would melt away . . . if she opened another diner they'd flock to their hero for a greasy burger and fries.

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    ^^ You can see from that photo why Fox News is full of ads for Depends, pharmaceuticals and memory loss snake oil.


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    John Pierce, Anti-Vax Lawyer for Capitol Insurrectionists, Hospitalized with COVID-19

    Prominent lawyer John Pierce, who’s defending some of the most high-profile Capitol rioters, has failed to appear in court in recent days amid reports he’s been hospitalized with COVID-19. An associate said Pierce was on a ventilator and unresponsive. Pierce mocked the use of face masks during the pandemic and pledged he would never get vaccinated.

    John Pierce, Anti-Vax Lawyer for Capitol Insurrectionists, Hospitalized with COVID-19 | Democracy Now!

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    The long read about John Pierce not showing up for court dates.


    Go-to Lawyer for Capitol Riot Defendants Disappears

    Go-to Lawyer for Capitol Riot Defendants Disappears – DNyuz

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Pierce mocked the use of face masks during the pandemic and pledged he would never get vaccinated.
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    Pierce was on a ventilator and unresponsive.
    Trying really hard to find sympathy for the guy . . .

    . . .

    . . .

    . . .

    Nope.

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    Roger Stone Interrupted on Live Radio to Be Served With Capitol Riot Lawsuit


    This really couldn’t have been scripted any better. Roger Stone has been served with papers relating to a Capitol riot lawsuit while live on radio and answering a question about why Donald Trump should run in 2024. Raw Story reported that the longtime Trump confidant was appearing on a St. Louis radio show when a process server showed up at his door. In the middle of explaining why it’s “imperative” that Trump runs, Stone said: “Hold on a second, I have a process server at my front door about to serve me in the latest lawsuit.” The host can be heard saying “Oh, holy smokes,” while Stone chirpily accepts the papers. “All right, I have just been served in the January 6th lawsuit—live, right here on your radio show,” Stone said. “This is a big, big stack of papers, which is good, because we’re out of toilet paper.” Stone has maintained his innocence in the Capitol riot, but was caught on camera with members of the far-right militia group the Oath Keepers on the morning of the deadly insurrection.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-...wsuit?ref=home

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Roger Stone Interrupted on Live Radio to Be Served With Capitol Riot Lawsuit


    This really couldn’t have been scripted any better. Roger Stone has been served with papers relating to a Capitol riot lawsuit while live on radio and answering a question about why Donald Trump should run in 2024. Raw Story reported that the longtime Trump confidant was appearing on a St. Louis radio show when a process server showed up at his door. In the middle of explaining why it’s “imperative” that Trump runs, Stone said: “Hold on a second, I have a process server at my front door about to serve me in the latest lawsuit.” The host can be heard saying “Oh, holy smokes,” while Stone chirpily accepts the papers. “All right, I have just been served in the January 6th lawsuit—live, right here on your radio show,” Stone said. “This is a big, big stack of papers, which is good, because we’re out of toilet paper.” Stone has maintained his innocence in the Capitol riot, but was caught on camera with members of the far-right militia group the Oath Keepers on the morning of the deadly insurrection.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-...wsuit?ref=home
    Oh dear and he hasn't got baldy orange cunto to pardon him this time.

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    So the fucking trumpanzee idiots are having another rally to protest the arrests from the first rally. They really aren't very fucking bright are they?

    Someone leaked a pic of them preparing.


    Trump Protesters Storm Capitol. DC on lockdown-rklm81gq5yn71-jpg


    Capitol Police Prepare For 'Justice For J6' Demonstration : NPR

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    Extremist groups and prominent rightwing figures are warning supporters not to attend a far-right rally in support of the people arrested for participating in the 6 January Capitol attack, calling the event a “false flag” and a “trap”.
    Capitol police are bracing for potential violence at the “Justice for J6” protest rally, which is taking place in Washington DC on Saturday, and security fencing has gone up once more around the Capitol building.
    But local and federal officials have also said that they expect no more than 700 people to attend the protest, a far cry from the estimated tens of thousands of supporters of Donald Trump who converged on the Capitol in January.



    Across rightwing social media platforms, “most people who are talking about the event in any capacity are telling people to steer clear of DC,” Cassie Miller, a senior research analyst at the Southern Poverty Law Center, said. “Any extremist group that’s talking about it is warning people against attending.”
    The common narrative in rightwing forums is that the rally is “a trap that’s been set by federal authorities” that will leave participants vulnerable to “surveillance and arrest”, Miller said.
    While intelligence officials reportedly warned in early September that the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers were planning to attend the rally, both groups, whose members are facing some of the most serious charges in the 6 January attack, have since distanced themselves from the event. A Proud Boys social media channel posted “Sounds like bait” and wrote “We aren’t going and you shouldn’t either”. In an interview on his way to jail, the group’s chairman, Enrique Tarrio, said: “The Proud Boys will not be there,” WUSA 9 reported.

    “I do not know of any specific plan to attend, other than what we are watching the media fabricate,” Kelly SoRelle, a lawyer for the Oath Keepers, told Mother Jones.
    The Fox News host Laura Ingraham called the rally “stupid” and told her viewers she had never heard of it before she saw a report about it on CNN.
    “Many people” see the protest as “even a false flag operation”, Ingraham warned on 10 September. “Have any big-name conservatives signed on? Of course not. Obviously there’s nothing legitimate about it.”
    Even a Facebook discussion hosted by the group organizing Saturday’s rally features comments like “This will end badly” and “It isn’t us if anything goes down”.
    Some prominent Republican members of Congress who have defended the Capitol rioters as political prisoners, including Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn, told Politico a week before the protest that they would not be attending.


    Capitol police officers look over the integrity of the fence put up to secure the US Capitol and its grounds before Saturday’s rally. Photograph: Sue Dorfman/ZUMA Press Wire/REX/ShutterstockAdvertisement

    Donald Trump himself views the “Justice for J6” rally as a set-up and has made no public comments about it, the New York Times reported.
    “I don’t know a single person in the Maga movement who is going,” the longtime Trump ally Roger Stone, one of the defendants in a new lawsuit brought by seven Capitol police officers against people they allege helped send a violent mob to the Capitol to attack them, . “Patriots: stay away from Washington,” Stone added.
    Saturday’s “Justice for J6” rally is being organized by Look Ahead America, a group run by Matt Braynard, who was briefly employed by Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign as the director of data and strategy, BuzzFeed News reported in August.
    Look Ahead America is also organizing more than a dozen “Justice for J6” rallies at the state level on 18 and 25 September, most of them at state capitols, according to the organization’s website.
    Braynard has said the protest was organized in support of the “non-violent offenders” charged in connection with 6 January. He continues to defend the event against criticism from all sides. He tweeted at Ingraham: “You claim ignorance despite us sending about thirty press releases to your network’s producers over this time” and asked to be featured on her show. More recently, he posted a list of TV networks that were interviewing him about the rally, which did not include Fox News, and wrote, “Who is missing? Hmmm.”
    Asked to respond to the widespread rightwing comments about his rally being a “set-up” and a “trap”, Braynard called the questions “an encyclopedia of disinformation” and wrote that he was unlikely to “drop everything” to provide comments for what he believed would be a “hit piece”.
    One former Trump campaign employee told BuzzFeed News Braynard “wasn’t really qualified” for his 2016 job, and that he was hired at a time when the campaign had no mainstream credibility, comments that Braynard called “lies”.


    A US Capitol police officer on patrol on Thursday. Photograph: J Scott Applewhite/AP

    Braynard himself described being repeatedly shut out of his attempts to rejoin the Trump operation after 2016. He said he had been told that one person had blocked his efforts to brief the Trump campaign on voter fraud after the 2020 election, arguing that “Matt’s difficult to work with, don’t let him in,” BuzzFeed News reported.
    More recently, Braynard has made headlines for his allegations and testimony about voter fraud in the 2020 election. He has raised more than $675,000 to investigate fraud allegations using GiveSendGo, a Christian crowdfunding site popular with the Proud Boys and other far-right figures.
    The rhetoric ahead of Saturday’s rally marks a sharp contrast with the tenor and volume of comments that preceded 6 January, Miller and other experts said.
    Analysts who monitor the far right “don’t expect for there to be a huge turnout for this event”, Miller, of the Southern Poverty Law Center, said. Still, there are legitimate concerns that it might catalyze violence, particularly in the wake of recent incidents in DC, including a hours-long police standoff with a man who claimed to have a bomb outside the US Capitol, and the arrest of a man with a machete and bayonet in a truck decorated with white power symbols that was parked not far from the Democratic National Committee headquarters.

    “There’s always the possibility for lone actor attacks in this kind of situation,” Miller said.
    Regardless of what happened on Saturday, Miller said, the “dangerous” narrative that the 6 January defendants were “political prisoners” had begun to spread more widely in rightwing circles, and had been endorsed by Cawthorn, the freshman North Carolina congressman, and the Fox News host Tucker Carlson.
    More than 600 people have been charged so far in connection with the 6 January insurrection, and federal officials continue to announce new arrests. Many of the people arrested face relatively low-level charges, and unlike most people charged in the federal court system, the vast majority of them have been released ahead of trial, a Guardian analysis found, treatment that some former federal defense attorneys said reflected racial bias in favor of the overwhelmingly white Capitol defendants.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ton-proud-boys

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    ^ Saw a poster on the wall in the grocery store for a Justice for J6 rally this weekend at the Gray, Georgia (Population 3500) courthouse.

    If anyone shows up, they will be white and not wearing a mask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    not wearing a mask.
    Aren't 'hoods' in fashion in Georgia anymore ?


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