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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Some were poorly trained from what I could see. I saw a video on the BBC showing a cop/security guard inside the building raising a baton and shouting at the intruders to "back up". An intruder took a step forward, the cop/guard turned and ran back 10 metres or so, only to repeat the same thing over and over again. Pointless. That said, they probably never expected to see intruders inside the building.

    Aside from the ideal that the Capitol Security is well funded/trained [easily, could be questioned] - the bigger picture suggest that the immediate Capitol area was not secure nor prepared for the onslaught.
    They were obviously outnumbered 200-300 to 1......[DC Metro Police/Capitol Police] from the get go.

    The authorities were quite aware that this gathering would be taking place and planned weeks ago. Yet, didn't lift a finger to create odds in their favour....[perimeter infrastructure/number of law enforcement]

    The conspicuous comparatives have been suggested: if this major protest/riot mass was made up of....let's say, a BLM surge, almost guaranteed that their would've been an overwhelming response from the same authorities - example: witness how these things were carried out last summer.

    Adding to the complexity and hypocrisy - no official questions/challenging has been cast by the media, assorted pundits and the collective of phony politicians.
    Lay fault to where it belongs instead of creating misdirection.

    The bottom line - they weren't prepared and preferred not to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Aside from the ideal that the Capitol Security is well funded/trained [easily, could be questioned] - the bigger picture suggest that the immediate Capitol area was not secure nor prepared for the onslaught.
    They were obviously outnumbered 200-300 to 1......[DC Metro Police/Capitol Police] from the get go.

    The authorities were quite aware that this gathering would be taking place and planned weeks ago. Yet, didn't lift a finger to create odds in their favour....[perimeter infrastructure/number of law enforcement]

    The conspicuous comparatives have been suggested: if this major protest/riot mass was made up of....let's say, a BLM surge, almost guaranteed that their would've been an overwhelming response from the same authorities - example: witness how these things were carried out last summer.

    Adding to the complexity and hypocrisy - no official questions/challenging has been cast by the media, assorted pundits and the collective of phony politicians.
    Lay fault to where it belongs instead of creating misdirection.

    The bottom line - they weren't prepared and preferred not to be.
    There is a lot about this to come out.
    Remember , it was not long ago that career officials in the pentagon were fired by trump and replaced by yes men, and then when it is time to deploy the National guard, or allow the national guard from Maryland to assist, it took them hours to react while trump's troops were overrunning the capital.
    Does anyone see anything suspicious there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    would love to know how many off duty cops and current/former military were at the capitol attempting to overthrow the US government. yes, i'm saying there's a 5th column inside the US military and police force.
    i've been reading/hearing a lot of bizarre details about the lack of preparedness beforehand by the capitol police and also the delayed national guard response during the insurrection.

    i'm not conspiratorial minded...but IMO something about this stinks.
    Last edited by raycarey; 10-01-2021 at 10:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    The bottom line - they weren't prepared and preferred not to be.
    I personally disagree. I think it was a carefully planned event.

    Top's conspiracy theory

    Let's set up the scene....

    The "President" decided to have a rally called "Save America" on coincidentally the same day as Congress was certifying his ouster from the presidency. Thousands of rabid trump supporters were expected to attend to "Save America".

    How in God's name could anyone not predict the outcome? A month ago when he announced the "rally", I guess then it would be an attempt to prevent Congress from fulfilling its obligation in certifying voting results.

    Along the way, fuckwits like Cruz and Hawkley came along saying "We must protest the votes from the states that trump thinks stole the election." even though there was no Constitutional way to do this in a way to change anything.

    This raised the temperature of the trumpettes....which should have raised the concerns of the various security services.

    Then trump gets on stage, tells his insurrection mob to go down the street and let the politicians know what the mob thinks.

    I watched the speech live, even I, a complete fuckwit myself, guessed the outcome then.

    Why didn't the 5 alarm security alert go out then and why weren't the security forces better prepared beforehand?

    Someone didn't want them to be. It's simple.

    Who would benefit?

    1. Trump - Yes, he's the obvious person that worked behind the scenes to ensure his "people" would see little resistance to his attempted insurrection. Even if he had forced Congress to act under literal gunpoint, I doubt that any other branches of government would have supported his action.

    2. Nancy Pelosi - Who had the most to gain by having trump supporters attempt insurrection? Nancy and the Dems. By allowing what happened, Pelosi has certainly destroyed trump and caused very serious to his supporters in particular, and the Repubs in general.

    These are just my conspiracy theories. I have no evidence for them, but surely the Capitol security forces didn't need a crystal ball to predict what would take place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Along the way, fuckwits like Cruz and Hawkley came along saying "We must protest the votes from the states that trump thinks stole the election." even though there was no Constitutional way to do this in a way to change anything.
    You might want to check that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You might want to check that.
    Ok, let me paraphrase here...

    The fuckwits said, in order to suck cock to the trump supporter money base...

    We'll do whatever we can to fuck up the process so we can set up a commission to look into unverified claims of voter fraud because that's the Congress' role even though Congress doesn't have the authority to overturn the election so trump will give us a little pat on our heads. After all, those silly states are too stupid to know how to hold elections! "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Ok, let me paraphrase here...

    The fuckwits said, in order to suck cock to the trump supporter money base...

    We'll do whatever we can to fuck up the process so we can set up a commission to look into unverified claims of voter fraud because that's the Congress' role even though Congress doesn't have the authority to overturn the election so trump will give us a little pat on our heads. After all, those silly states are too stupid to know how to hold elections! "
    You still might want to check that.

    There is a legal right to voice an objection and a legal right to vote to overturn each result and send it back to the state.

    The fact that there was very little chance of this happening doesn't mean it wasn't legally possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Surely must be some Chinese or Russian involvement? Not newsworthy otherwise.
    You want Chinese Involvement here you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    You want Chinese Involvement here you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    You want Chinese Involvement here you go.

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    Who's more dense, chico or the braindead geriatric? China, chico? Five letters. Try again.

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    ^^Poor old guy is senile and doesn’t know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^^Poor old guy is senile and doesn’t know it.
    That's the good thing about brain damage, you never know you have it.

    Good thing I don't have any LOL

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    Horned Capitol rioter is ‘failed actor and QAnon conspiracy theorist who lives with his mother’ — report

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    Sun, January 10, 2021, 9:19 PM GMT+7


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    A Trump supporter who became known as the ‘QAnon shaman’ after being pictured during riots at the US Capitol is reportedly a “failed actor” and conspiracy theorist described by his mother’s neighbours as “bizarre."

    Jacob Angeli Chansley, 33, was charged with entering a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, and with violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds after he participated in the mob that laid siege to the Capitol on Wednesday.


    He was photographed wearing horns and carrying a spear while rioting in the Senate debating chamber and had painted his face with red, white and blue face paint.

    According to the Daily Mail, Chansley has been living with his 56-year-old mother, Martha, since January 2019 after he was evicted from his apartment in Phoenix, Arizona, owing US$1,247 in rent arrears.

    The newspaper reported that Chansley is unemployed, having failed to launch an acting career, and has been seen wandering through his mother’s neighbourhood in Glendale dressed in the same costume he wore to the Capitol riots.

    He also has a car bumper sticker with the word ‘WQKE’ and the hashtags ‘#AllAboutTheChildren’ and ‘#TheGreatAwakening’, which are references to the QAnon conspiracy theory movement that believes in the existence of a vast underground pedophile ring.


    Chansley is a fixture at anti-lockdown rallies and has been seen at numerous pro-Trump demonstrations over the last year, including one in February where he was photographed holding a sign that read “Q Sent Me”.


    In September, Chansley reportedly led a protest at Arrowhead Mall in Glendale, in which he claimed a spiral sign close to the bathrooms in the shopping centre was “an FBI pedophile code”.


    His mother declined to comment on her son’s actions, reported the Daily Mail.


    One former high school classmate of Chansley’s told the newspaper his behaviour was “crazy stuff” and that he had “changed a lot” since leaving school 15 years ago.

    A profile on the film industry site Backstage shows Chansley previously sought acting work and lists one project in which he volunteered at a Theatre Camp for disadvantaged children in 2018.

    He describes himself as a “Voice Over and Acting Master”, and claims to be "capable of performing over 30 different voices and numerous different accents”.


    Chansley was taken into custody on Saturday, a statement from the US Department of Justice confirmed.







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    ​Poor little diddums.


    Rioter caught on video sobbing “they called me a terrorist” after being put on the no-fly list

    https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/s...99358161649666


    https://www.rawstory.com/rioter-kicked-off-plane-nofly/

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    Two men carrying plastic restraints during Capitol riot charged by feds

    (CNN)Federal authorities on Sunday arrested two men for their alleged roles in the US Capitol riot, according to a release.


    Two law enforcement officials told CNN earlier that Eric G. Munchel was seen on January 6 in photos and videos that depicted him inside the US Capitol wearing paramilitary gear and carrying plastic restraints, an item in a holster on his right hip, and a cell phone mounted on his chest with the camera facing outward, ostensibly to record events that day.


    Records from the Davidson County Sheriff's Office in Tennessee show Munchel is being held on behalf of federal authorities. Munchel was charged with one count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority and one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.

    That information was later confirmed by officials in a release, which detailed the arrest of a second suspect.
    Authorities also arrested Larry Rendell Brock of Texas. Brock was identified as one of the individuals who unlawfully entered the Capitol wearing a green helmet, green tactical vest with patches, black and camo jacket, and beige pants holding a white flex cuff, which is used by law enforcement to restrain and/or detain subjects, according to a release.

    Brock was charged with one count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority and one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.


    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/10/polit...iot/index.html




    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/10/polit...iot/index.html

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    "Kneeling to protest police violence = disrespects the flag

    Using the flag to beat a cop to death on the steps of the Capitol = patriot"

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    MAGA support for police turned out to be lie, didn’t it.

    ^ There is a video of that incident I am avoiding viewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    MAGA support for police turned out to be lie, didn’t it.
    Utterly. 'Blue Lives Matter!' was just used to try to silence the BLM movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    My heart bleeds for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    My heart bleeds for him.
    They should have arrested him for causing public nuisance, disturbing the peace and being a Skidmark-Like-Arsehole

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    My heart bleeds for him.
    Yeah, ... tots and pears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    My heart bleeds for him.
    Well the right wing regime of the future will remember what this regime did to them.

    BLM/Antifa will be the ones put on the terrorist lists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Well the right wing regime of the future will remember what this regime did to them.
    The current regime is right wing in the Presidency, right wing in the Senate, and right wing in the Supreme Court, so the right wing regime of the future can literally go fuck themselves.

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    What I don't understand is why the cops inside the doorway didn't open fire into those terrorists beating down their colleague.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    BLM/Antifa will be the ones put on the terrorist lists
    Nope.

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