Trump Protesters Storm Capitol. DC on lockdown

**harrybarracuda** · 08-01-2021, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by elche

Infantile.

That's the high end of the trumpanzee spectrum.

**harrybarracuda** · 08-01-2021, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Snowden: Zuckerberg's Decision To Silence Trump Is "The Turning Point In The Battle For Control Of Digital Speech"

Snowden: Zuckerberg'''s Decision To Silence Trump Is "The Turning Point In The Battle For Control Of Digital Speech" | ZeroHedgeSome may consider "Free Speech", and the ability to utilise it "clutter" and wish to censor it.

Others may read the article above and post their opinions, agreeing or disagreeing.

Read before it is banned!

It's not though, is it, he can just switch to Parler and keep spouting the same bollocks.

Might wanna ask Snowden if he has a camp bed though.

**harrybarracuda** · 08-01-2021, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by deeks

You have both hit the nail on the head, With a lot of luck, maybe elections can get back to the ink on the thumb. Seems that the old ways are the best ways.

That would be a big help to people like yourself who struggle with cursive handwriting, eh?

**deeks** · 08-01-2021, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
You have both hit the nail on the head, With a lot of luck, maybe elections can get back to the ink on the thumb. Seems that the old ways are the best ways.

That would be a big help to people like yourself who struggle with cursive handwriting, eh?

Blame that on the teacher, She said "write cursive" so i did. fucknell

**deeks** · 08-01-2021, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

at least you remembered.

What ya havin a go at me for now?

**Headworx** · 08-01-2021, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The epitome of a hoohoo post:

Russian propaganda blowing the chinky trumpet.

I get all my world news from chinese media, especially when it comes to Covid. The fact that if any reporters printed anything deemed derogatory to china they'd get shot through the temple at point-blank range doesn't seem to skew the truth at all.

**PlanK** · 08-01-2021, 01:05 PM

I'm just here to watch deeks' snowflake meltdown.

Don't mind me.
Keep scrolling.

**deeks** · 08-01-2021, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Headworx

I get all my world news from chinese media, especially when it comes to Covid. The fact that if any reporters printed anything deemed derogatory to china they'd get shot through the temple at point-blank range doesn't seem to skew the truth at all.

Agree, they definitely know how to carry out orders.

**deeks** · 08-01-2021, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Plan B

I'm just here to watch deeks' snowflake meltdown.

Don't mind me.
Keep scrolling.

Hee HAA HEE, Plan C sounds good from my angle. lol

**deeks** · 08-01-2021, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

What a moron . . . why not gives us the sticker symbol where you can buy them

Come on, Texpat . . . we're waiting for the sticker symbol so we can take your advice and buy shares in an unlisted company.

Still trying to pretend you're an Aussie?

Wanker

Ahhh, cause I think that might be illegal in 99% of western speaking countries. Infact I think it may even be illegal to entice a person to commit an offence in maybe half of those countries? but what would i know, rite, I'm just a tard as you say?

**PlanK** · 08-01-2021, 01:49 PM

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**OhOh** · 08-01-2021, 01:53 PM

Another article regarding free speech.

America Under Censorship: Biden’s Presidency Certified, Free Speech May be No Longer

07.01.2021 Author: Catherine Shakdam

“If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.” ― George Washington

As of January 6, 2021 Twitter decided to suspend US President Donald Trump’s account, for all intents and purposes putting a sock into the man’s mouth for IT didn’t feel like entertaining his political rants. And though many will argue that such measures to silence Mr Trump were wielded in the public’s best interest, in the context of the violence we all saw unravel at Capital Hill this Wednesday, I’d like you to consider for a moment the implications of such a unilateral move.

And for those who missed it, Jo Biden’s presidency was certified by Congress late last night.

Twitter, however familiar the platform has become, remains forever a private entity, a corporate body that cannot claim to legislate or in this particular instance rule over our realities by shutting out certain voices and/or certain ideas. Such powers are far too great for any one individual or corporation to exercise without oversight and lawful recourses. One does not simply suspend a democratically elected president’s opinions on the basis that they clash with the CEO’s own personal views and interests.

Let us not pretend that Twitter was incensed by Wednesday violence … let’s not be so blind and egregiously naive as to believe that Twitter fancies itself the guardian of all things virtuous and fair: like freedom, democracy and civil liberties. Maybe more to the point let us remember that it is not Twitter’s job to moderate our views and shape our thoughts process. If free we are, and indeed free we want to stay, then we ought to defend our rights to free speech – however vile such speech may at times be.

To silence is to dictate and to any form of diktat sits contarian to democratic principles.I will quote here another US President, President Harry S. Truman, who, in a speech before Congress, warned:

“Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear.”

He was of course referring to calls by state agencies to ‘monitor’ and ‘contain’ certain dissident voices to preserve the integrity of the State, but the essence of his speech applies here perfectly still – only now it seems the power to silence, monitor, and repress lies now in the hands of corporations as opposed to state agencies. I find the idea slightly more unnerving …

Whatever anyone may think of Trump: hate him, loathe him, mock him, adore him, support him, idolise him, he ought not to be shut out so that others’ voices could rise above to better dominate the landscape. This is not how healthy democracies function, this is now how you defend a nation’s democratic future, and it is certainly not an example you want to set out to the world and still argue that America is the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.

Back in 2018, University of Detroit Mercy law professor Kyle Langvardt wrote a pertinent commentary in the Georgetown Law Journal on the matter. She said, “It seems obvious to me that this is an unacceptable way for a liberal society to do business … What concerns me is that we entrust a few unaccountable and self-interested tech companies to govern online discourse.

”Twitter most definitely overstepped its bounds, thus setting a precedent few have even bothered to challenge for they are only too glad the target was Trump. I often marvel at people’s ability to rationalise their lack of intellectual consistency … call it cognitive dissonance if you will. To hold to the principles of free speech is to agree to bear the poison of opposite views and opinions.

There is another important point I’d like to make, one which too few have even bothered looking into so busy they were to blame Mr Trump for the chaos we all witnessed on our screens. To accuse is one thing, to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt is another. Those ‘agents provocateurs’ we saw commit acts of vandalism and violence may not have been Trump’s MAGA army … until we know for sure, we should not assume; especially since it so conveniently fits the very narrative which rationalises censorship.

But then again the whole point of this blame exercise was exactly that: to muddle half facts with fast-made conclusions to better manipulate public thinking and thus justify one’s decision to self-righteously silence the proverbial “Opposition”- in this case Trump and his supporters, so that the field would be cleared.

I will leave you here to ponder over the words of John Stuart Mill – undoubtedly one of the greatest thinkers of our Western philosophical canon.The basic thrust of his argument on Free Speech is set out in a remarkably succinct form in the following passage of his essay, On Liberty:

“…the peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth; if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth produced by its collision with error.”

https://journal-neo.org/2021/01/07/a...-be-no-longer/

**deeks** · 08-01-2021, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Plan B

Fuck yeah.

**harrybarracuda** · 08-01-2021, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

America Under Censorship: Biden’s Presidency Certified, Free Speech May be No Longer

Before you waste any time on Hoohoo's latest piece of nonsense, it's worth mentioning that he believes....

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**Klondyke** · 08-01-2021, 02:16 PM

Russiagate Democrats blame PUTIN for crowd that stormed US Capitol protesting ‘stolen’ US election
7 Jan, 2021

Having spent four years insisting Russia ‘hacked’ the US election for President Donald Trump, some prominent Democrats are now blaming Moscow for Americans who stormed the US Capitol protesting the 2020 results.

As thousands of Trump supporters gathered in Washington, DC on Wednesday for a 'Stop the Steal' rally and Congress met to certify the Electoral College votes that would make Democrat Joe Biden the next US president, a group of protesters stormed the Capitol and interrupted the lawmakers.

Russiagate Democrats blame PUTIN for crowd that stormed US Capitol protesting ‘stolen’ US election — RT USA News

(anybody seen the video where the Russian Ambassador distributes 100 Ruble to the Capitol protesters/terorrists? The bags with the money left over from Mr. Putin's election - cannot find now the video from Moscow 2 years ago...)

**cyrille** · 08-01-2021, 02:35 PM

...fok

**Neverna** · 08-01-2021, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by elche

"Nothing will stop us ..."
Ashli Babbitt, trumper shot and killed while storming the Capitol.

Ashli Babbitt: US Air Force veteran who lost her life in riots

The day before she died, Ashli Babbitt wrote on social media about the upcoming gathering of Trump supporters in the US capital.

"Nothing will stop us," she wrote. "They can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours."

Ms Babbitt, 35, was among the mob which breached the US Capitol on Wednesday. She has been identified by US Capitol Police as one of five people who died amid the chaos.

A veteran of the US Air Force, Babbitt served two tours in Afghanistan and Iraq before later deployments with the National Guard to Kuwait and Qatar, her ex-husband Timothy McEntee told US media.

On social media, Ms Babbitt described herself as a libertarian and a patriot. She posted frequently about President Donald Trump, expressing ardent support for the president and echoing his unproven claims of wide-scale voter fraud.

In September, Ms Babbitt posted a photo from a boat parade for Mr Trump in San Diego wearing a shirt that said "We are Q" - referring to QAnon - the far-right, completely unfounded conspiracy theory that says Mr Trump is battling a clandestine war against Satan-worshipping paedophiles.

Days before this week's demonstrations, Ms Babbitt wrote on Twitter that she would be in Washington for Mr Trump's so-called Stop the Steal rally.

"I will be in DC on the 6th!" she wrote. "God bless America and WWG1WGA" - using an abbreviation common among QAnon supporters.

More here: Ashli Babbitt: US Air Force veteran who lost her life in riots - BBC News

**harrybarracuda** · 08-01-2021, 03:13 PM

"Nothing will stop us" she wrote.

Yeah well that worked out well.

**Neverna** · 08-01-2021, 03:13 PM

WWG1WGA = "Where we go one, we go all" - a line from the 1996 Jeff Bridges sailing adventure "White Squall" that they misattribute to President Kennedy.

What is QAnon? What does WWG1WGA mean? The conspiracy theory that explains everything and nothing - CBS News

**deeks** · 08-01-2021, 03:45 PM

God bless her sole to Jesus, She served her country and died fighting for what she felt in her heart was the only option left. Please Lord, these are our brothers and sisters, they are your children, with your mighty hand over this country please fix it, so it won't happen again.

**Neverna** · 08-01-2021, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by deeks

God bless her sole to Jesus, She served her country and died fighting for what she felt in her heart was the only option left. Please Lord, these are our brothers and sisters, they are your children, with your mighty hand over this country please fix it, so it won't happen again.

She's just another statistic - a gun death statistic in the USA. Same as it ever was*.

* (Hat tip to Jeff).

And for the record, I don't think her fish, feet or footwear bottoms will be appreciated by Jesus.

**Klondyke** · 08-01-2021, 03:55 PM

^She was not so lucky like the old lady protesting Lukashenko election in Belarus (however in DC were no protesters but terrorists, weren 't they?)

https://teakdoor.com/world-news/1987...ml#post4162640 (Another Colour Revolution Attempt? Belarus - Election Time.)

**aging one** · 08-01-2021, 04:00 PM

One minute the top of the world, one of the first to go through a broken window into the capital. The next dead. Wink of an eye. Adios, nobody went with her at that scene.

**Cujo** · 08-01-2021, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by deeks

God bless her sole to Jesus, She served her country and died fighting for what she felt in her heart was the only option left. Please Lord, these are our brothers and sisters, they are your children, with your mighty hand over this country please fix it, so it won't happen again.

So what won't happen again ?
Fix it so simple minded traitors won't illegally storm U.S. government buildings and disrupt the legitimate business of legitimate government. That?

**raycarey** · 08-01-2021, 04:22 PM

a couple of things....

* the capitol police force is apparently the 9th largest police force in the US....~2,000 members, a $500,000,000 budget, and they're responsible for protecting fewer than 10 buildings.
the NYT is reporting that capitol police gave directions to the terrorists so they could find senator chuck schumer's office.
fun fact: the capitol police are not subject to FOIA requests.

* would love to know how many off duty cops and current/former military were at the capitol attempting to overthrow the US government. yes, i'm saying there's a 5th column inside the US military and police force.

* anyone else wondering how roger stone fits into all this? i have no doubt that he was involved.

*when referring to a seat of govt. it's "capitol", not "capital".

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