Trump Protesters Storm Capitol. DC on lockdown

**elche** · 19-02-2021, 06:18 AM

^ suspended? Those cops should be charged, and if convicted, fired and put in jail. What kind of message are these police departments sending, that cops can break the law and then be back on the job with a slap on the wrist?

**misskit** · 19-02-2021, 06:26 AM

Somethings up. Two Capitol Police officers have committed suicide since January 6th.

**elche** · 19-02-2021, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by misskit

Somethings up. Two Capitol Police officers have committed suicide since January 6th.

Indeed. Their scheme backfired and they realized after the fact that their goose was cooked, that they would likely face prison time, where they wouldn't last 6 months. Many cops have the reputation of being stupid, and in this case, their stupidity cost them their lives.

**David48atTD** · 19-02-2021, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

Because I sometimes watch CNN and they talk about Hannity and Fox adnauseum.

Why would I choose to lie about such a inconsequential thing as this?

Answer me that..

Civilly if possible.

Call me crazy, but just a thought.

Instead of jumping down russellsimpson's throat and calling him a liar, just chill and accept his comment at face value.

He say he doesn't watch Hannity ... do you guys float around in his living room?

Me? I don't watch Hannity ... don't have a subscription (for any cable, come to mention it) ... but I know of him.

He's been posted several times here, and several clips taking the piss out of him.

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The Dems and the Repubs are never going to find common ground if the rhetoric of the past 4 years under that [at][at][at][at] of a President are replicated for the rest of the decade.

russellsimpson doesn't come across as a Trump Nutter, a repub ... sure, but what's wrong with that?

**David48atTD** · 19-02-2021, 08:50 AM

FFS ... it's not the last day of the Republic ...

**russellsimpson** · 19-02-2021, 09:01 AM

^ I'll watch that a bit later.

I don't know how I would describe my political perspective. Probably a conservative socialist. I quite like Bernie Sanders.

Anyway, Navalny.

Please carry on.

**David48atTD** · 19-02-2021, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

^ I'll watch that a bit later.

No need, it's just a clip from a Star Wars movie

Hitler/Dictator overtones.

**Klondyke** · 19-02-2021, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by misskit

Two Capitol Police officers have committed suicide since January 6th.

But isn't the details of their death a subject of the national security?

**harrybarracuda** · 19-02-2021, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by elche

^ suspended? Those cops should be charged, and if convicted, fired and put in jail. What kind of message are these police departments sending, that cops can break the law and then be back on the job with a slap on the wrist?

That an investigation found them innocent?

**elche** · 19-02-2021, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

That an investigation found them innocent?

Is the investigation over?

**elche** · 19-02-2021, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Instead of jumping down russellsimpson's throat and calling him a liar, just chill and accept his comment at face value.

Let's not be naive and gullible. These trump trolls change their identity when it suits them, whether out of what they said to others or embarrassment. Regardless,I give them no quarter. Anyone who supports racism, lies, bigotry and violence does not have my sympathy and needs to be held accountable.

**Buckaroo Banzai** · 19-02-2021, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by elche

Let's not be naive and gullible. These trump trolls change their identity when it suits them, whether out of what they said to others or embarrassment. Regardless,I give them no quarter. Anyone who supports racism, lies, bigotry and violence does not have my sympathy and needs to be held accountable.

Can you imagine being a person of color and being pulled over at a dark street by this MAGA cops?

**russellsimpson** · 19-02-2021, 11:56 PM

Ho Hum. I won't be heading down to the local watering hole to consume a pint with these two anytime soon.

**harrybarracuda** · 20-02-2021, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by elche

Is the investigation over?

No. So they haven't been found guilty of anything.

**elche** · 20-02-2021, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No. So they haven't been found guilty of anything.

If you're expecting anything that would get to the bottom of this, don't count on it, at least as long as the police are investigating themselves.

**Buckaroo Banzai** · 20-02-2021, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No. So they haven't been found guilty of anything.

I think the investigation is as to their degree of culpability , I don't think anyone is disputing that they were involved in a riot, since there is photographic, and video evidence.

"Rep. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, who chairs one of the committees that oversees the Capitol police, told reporters that one of the suspended officers appeared to have taken a selfie with members of the mob.
Another officer was suspended after he was seen wearing a "Make American Great Again" hat and directing people inside the building, Ryan said. "

Six Capitol police officers suspended for alleged actions during riot

**Klondyke** · 20-02-2021, 12:28 PM

Fortunately, some proposing to set a commission as it was (successful) for 9/11. So, we will surely know who to blame after we read some 10,000 pages (some of them blackened out - for fast readers)...

**harrybarracuda** · 20-02-2021, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

I think the investigation is as to their degree of culpability , I don't think anyone is disputing that they were involved in a riot, since there is photographic, and video evidence.

"Rep. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, who chairs one of the committees that oversees the Capitol police, told reporters that one of the suspended officers appeared to have taken a selfie with members of the mob.
Another officer was suspended after he was seen wearing a "Make American Great Again" hat and directing people inside the building, Ryan said. "

Six Capitol police officers suspended for alleged actions during riot

They are still innocent until proven guilty, the basic tenet of US criminal law.

Videos and photos can be faked.

**Klondyke** · 20-02-2021, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Videos and photos can be faked.

The videos showing gate opening? Harry has got always a clue...

**panama hat** · 20-02-2021, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Harry has got always a clue...

Unlike you . . .

**misskit** · 21-02-2021, 08:21 PM

Feds probing Roger Stone, Alex Jones over roles in Capitol riot

Charges were unlikely for Stone and Jones, but investigators want a broad view of who might have instigated the violence.

Federal investigators probing the Jan. 6 Capitol riots are investigating whether high-profile allies of former President Donald Trump, including Roger Stone and Alex Jones, played any roll in organizing the violence, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the inquiry told NBC News Saturday.

The Washington Post first reported that the possible Jan. 6 roles of Stone, Jones and "Stop the Steal" rally organizer Ali Alexander were being probed.

The law enforcement source said charges were unlikely but that investigators want to achieve a broad understanding of any possible instigators.

Stone, a longtime advisor to the president, was pardoned by Trump in December following his 2019 conviction for making false statements, obstruction and witness tampering. Jones is a right-wing conspiracy theorist known for claiming the Sandy Hook school shooting didn't happen.

On Friday authorities announced six more people linked to the far-right Oath Keepers militia group have been indicted on charges that they planned and coordinated with one another in the deadly Jan. 6 attack.

Feds probing Roger Stone, Alex Jones over roles in Capitol riot

**bsnub** · 21-02-2021, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by misskit

Feds probing Roger Stone, Alex Jones over roles in Capitol riot

As if those clowns have need another anal probe.

**Cujo** · 23-02-2021, 08:06 PM

There are more laughs to come from these muppets I expect.
Many of them are looking at serious jail time for what they seemed to think was a bit of a lark.
(surely none of them seriously believed they would achieve anything of substance)

A leader of the far-right group Oath Keepers who is charged with participating in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol reversed her story on Monday about having met with Secret Service agents in Washington on the day of the insurrection.

Jessica Watkins, 38, had said in court papers over the weekend that she had traveled to Washington to provide security for the march, had received a VIP pass to then-President Donald Trump's rally and had met with the Secret Service.

But in a filing on Monday, Watkins' attorney said she had merely spoken with some agents while passing through a security checkpoint.

"Counsel in no way meant to imply that Ms. Watkins met with the Secret Service," A.J. Kramer, Watkins' court-appointed defense lawyer, wrote. "A better verb would have been 'encountered.'"

Watkins, an Afghanistan war veteran who has pleaded not guilty, is among nine associates of the anti-government organization charged with conspiring to storm the Capitol to prevent Congress from certifying President Joe Biden's electoral victory.

Federal prosecutors have accused Watkins of illegally entering the Capitol building. Her attorney has said she did not engage in any violence.

Prosecutors have said the Oath Keepers began planning a military-style assault as early as November. More than 200 people have been charged so far in connection with the attack, which left five people dead, including a police officer.

Trump delivered a fiery speech on Jan. 6 exhorting supporters to march to the Capitol to "stop the steal."

The ensuing assault prompted the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives to impeach Trump for inciting an insurrection. The Senate acquitted Trump largely along party lines, though seven Republicans voted to convict.

Watkins is asking the court to release her to home confinement while she awaits trial, citing in part the risk of maltreatment she faces in jail as a transgender woman.

Oath Keeper withdraws claim she met with Secret Service before U.S. Capitol attack

**Klondyke** · 23-02-2021, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Cujo

Oath Keeper withdraws claim

What a surprise...

**Buckaroo Banzai** · 23-02-2021, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

They are still innocent until proven guilty, the basic tenet of US criminal law.

Videos and photos can be faked.

Is it possible that the videos were fakes, sure anything is possible. Is it remotely probable???
When it comes to people is positions of powered and the public trust one has to balance possibilities against probabilities and come up with the best possible outcome.

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