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    About time for another decent civilising mission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    About time for another decent civilising mission.
    Cannot you wait after 20 Jan? (or few days more...)

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    Ansarullah forces have hit a Saudi oil depot in Jeddah

    Friday, 27 November 2020 7:36 PM

    Top Iranian nuclear scientist assassinated-15d4f0fe-3aab-49f8-8c7b-a03d6f7a9a93-jpg


    "A successful hit deep inside Saudi Arabia; Yemen’s Ansarullah fighters carried out a retaliatory missile strike on an oil facility in the Saudi port city of Jeddah on Monday.

    The Yemeni army says a new “winged missile” called the “Quds 2” was used in the operation against the distribution station operated by Saudi Aramco.
    Yemen’s military spokesman, Yahya Sarea, said it was another response to the Saudi-led aggression against Yemen. The military spokesman warned Saudis and foreign companies operating in the kingdom to stay away from vital installations as he pledged that Yemeni fighters will keep up such retaliatory operations.

    The new Quds-2 cruise missile must have flown over 400 miles to reach its target. The latest missile strike once again underscores Ansarullah’s fast-improving capabilities to hit Saudi targets with high precision.

    This strike on Aramco's site should certainly let the Saudi Kingdom know that this is not a war it can when it has shown, It has attempted for years to defeat the Yemeni people and have has not succeeded. And they are only getting stronger.
    Robert Fantina, Author and Journalist, Ontario

    Ansarullah’s arsenal of new weapons, including projectiles and drones, has become a major headache for the Saudis nearly six years after they began the war to defeat the popular forces.

    The Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the de facto ruler of the kingdom, and architect of the war has been under pressure to find a way to end the failing, protracted military campaign. None of the strategic goals of the invasion have been fulfilled after all these years.
    But bin Salman’s close ties with US president Donald Trump, mainly based on huge American arms sales, have allowed him to keep the war going. Will the Saudi crown prince take the increasing power of Yemeni forces seriously and change direction?

    The Yemeni army says its Quds two missile with improved range and precision became operational recently. The ground launched projectile is the latest addition to Yemen’s expanding arsenal of domestically manufactured weapons. The Yemenis say they have the means to retaliate effectively if the Saudis decide to escalate their military offensive.
    The Yemeni missile strike came soon after a meeting between Saudi Crown prince Mohammed bin Salman and US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. The United States, under President Donald Trump, has been deeply involved in the brutal war against Yemen.
    The US deeply involved in brutal war against Yemen. Will America’s stance change in any way? If Trump leaves office, how will Biden deal with the Yemeni war?

    The Saudi-led war in Yemen began in March 2015. It will be the sixth anniversary of the war in just a few months. The war on Yemen has been described by many as a forgotten war.
    The onslaught has rarely been covered by mainstream media. Even when Saudi airstrikes hit markets, weddings, schools or hospitals killing large numbers of civilians, the war got little attention in Western news channels.

    The US is a partner in this aggression


    The situation in Yemen has long been the world’s worst humanitarian disaster. As the Yemenis suffered, the business minded president of the United States took the opportunity to seal massive arms deals with the Saudis.
    The kingdom has been free to buy anything from America. From fighter jets to command and control systems and advanced battle tanks and warships, the Saudis are fully equiped.

    The US military support for the Saudis and their Emitrati allies also includes mid-air refueling, providing intelligence and logistics. The incumbent US president will probably leave the White House soon. How will his successor Joe Biden act on Yemen? Saudi Arabia has a very powerful lobby in Washington, and the kingdom’s petrodollars have proven irresistible to American politicians and decision makers for many decades.

    It’s unlikely there'll be any change. The US is always happy to foment and encourage a disruption, and disorder and chaos anywhere in the Middle East, and because Saudi Arabia is such a large buyer of US weaponry, the United States government under Biden or Trump or anybody else will not want to see those profits diminish.
    Robert Fantina, Author and Journalist, Ontario

    Biden faces tough choices over Yemen and his ties with the regime of Saudi Arabia as he will probably need to make very important decisions soon.

    Ansarullah forces have hit a Saudi oil depot in Jeddah

    Coincidence?
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I said that Obama killed the left wing anti war movement and now that Biden is coming in, the left will support US imperialism again.
    As I said before you are a fucking moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I said that Obama killed the left wing anti war movement and now that Biden is coming in, the left will support US imperialism again. Trump is still in office and the likes of Harrybc already supported this assassination in principal in this thread.
    Where did you read that drivel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Last chance to give those Ajatollahs the beating they deserve.
    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Sorry I've been out of touch. "They deserve" for what?
    Since you already answered your own question I guess I don't need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Sorry I've been out of touch. "They deserve" for what?
    They are not "friendly" to some superpowers like some other sitting on oil reserves as e.g. Saudis...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Ansarullah forces have hit a Saudi oil depot in Jeddah

    Friday, 27 November 2020 7:36 PM
    These cheap Iranian missiles aren't very good are they? I fancy the Saudis will probably have responded with something a bit better.

    Aramco is still assessing the extent of the damage from Monday’s strike, which tore a hole measuring roughly two square meters in a diesel storage tank containing about 480,000 barrels, the official said. The depot has 13 tanks holding diesel, gasoline and jet fuel for the domestic market. Aramco was distributing products again three hours afterward, the official said.
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    Saudi Aramco Says No One Hurt in Jeddah Missile Strike - Bloomberg

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    Biden and his circle are considered "left"?

    Really...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Biden and his circle are considered "left"?
    That is ridiculous. Biden is establishment conservative Democrat. Not even close to my left who would include people like Sanders, AOC and Warren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    That is ridiculous. Biden is establishment conservative Democrat. Not even close to my left who would include people like Sanders, AOC and Warren.
    Indeed, Snubby.
    As you rightfully found my quip as it was intended. Facetious.

    Don't have to be much of a reasonable observer to understand what Old Joe is. Traditional Establishment Club.
    His voting, supportive and opinionated history is all one requires to know what he's about.

    His truer political identity is quite reflective as to the current cabinet, advisory, governmental appointment and nominations so far.
    He is what he is. A member of the club - and certainly wouldn't of made it this far if he wasn't.


    Sanders, AOC, Warren and other phony "Progressives" [whatever that is], in your mind, are considered to be "LEFT"...??
    Hmmmm....

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    A critical editorial from Haaretz although they seem to think the blue suede shoes asked Diaper Don, which I doubt.

    A moment before the transition of power in Washington, President Donald Trump presumably gave his blessing to the assassination of the father of Iran’s nuclear program, Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, in Absard, northeast of Tehran. The goal of the operation, which has the potential to ignite a regional escalation, is to take advantage of the final moments of Trump’s term in order to constrain the President-elect Joe Biden and thwart a U.S. return to the international nuclear agreement with Iran.

    The New York Times reported that intelligence officials attributed the assassination to Israel, and Iranian leaders have already threatened harsh retaliation. Iranian President Hassan Rohani
    explicitly blamed Israel and warned that Tehran would retaliate “at the proper time.”

    Mohammad Hossein Bagheri, the chief of staff of Iran’s armed forces, blamed “the Zionists.” Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif similarly pointed a finger at Jerusalem, which he accused of “warmongering.” These threats mean Israel now risks an intensified head-on clash with Tehran at the height of the
    coronavirus crisis, and at a time when it’s being led by a divided, dysfunctional government in which people around the prime minister even boast of routinely excluding the foreign and defense ministers from diplomatic and military-related developments.


    This intoxication with power may well lead not only to a dangerous military conflict with Iran, but also to Israel’s first diplomatic crisis with the Biden administration even before it enters office. Even without this, Israel was facing a difficult job of repairing its relationship with Washington under a Democratic administration. Now it seems that instead of striving to preserve this strategic alliance, which is vital also for the struggle against Iran, Israel is only widening the rift.

    In this complicated situation, Israeli politicians have offered virtually no criticisms of or alternatives to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Iran policy. The opposition hastens to praise operations of this sort so as not to be perceived, heaven forbid, as less patriotic than the right. Few politicians consider the concrete value of assassinating a single individual, who will presumably be replaced. Few ask how Israel would respond were Iranians to carry out a hit on a senior official on Israeli soil, much less one of its best scientists. And too few ask what has happened to diplomacy, why has it been removed from the toolbox.

    There is a balance of terror between Israel and Iran, an arms race to obtain deterrence without any solution on the horizon. Diplomatic solutions, rather than only military ones, to an escalation must be considered. This issue currently divides Democrats and Republicans in the United States, yet in Israel any discussion of it has become completely taboo.
    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/edit...tion-1.9333983

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    I would hope that Iran does not take the bait. Time enough to appropriately retaliate in kind, at the proper time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I would hope that Iran does not take the bait. Time enough to appropriately retaliate in kind, at the proper time.
    Indeed.
    How might Gandhi approach such an intricate situation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    These cheap Iranian missiles aren't very good are they?
    The one missile hit the target an appears to have started a fire.

    How many were fired, how many shot down by the SA/ameristani defence system?

    The objective of the attack was what, illustrating their ability to cause mischief or start another ME war?

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Aramco was distributing products again three hours afterward, the official said.
    From the blazing tank, the presumably re-opened refinery after the one missile started a fire in one tank and all safety procedures completed, from a part of the refinery 5 km away or possibly an Aramco filling station 250km away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
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    Sums you up quite nicely.



    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Where did you read that drivel?
    You really want to know how his head works???




    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    That is ridiculous. Biden is establishment conservative Democrat. Not even close to my left who would include people like Sanders, AOC and Warren.
    I'm surprised anyone thinks Biden is a left-wing politician, well aside from the moronic Trumpanzees who'd believe naything

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Indeed.
    How might Gandhi approach such an intricate situation...
    I think Iran is going to assassinate one of trumps kids for the Qusam Solimani hit

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    ^ The whole left of center world was gizzing it's pants about Biden mere weeks ago, and now these utter planks are like "huh wut ? Bidun who ? "

    Holy fuck

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    US Carrier Strike Group Heads To Gulf As Iran Threatens Retaliation


    by Tyler Durden
    Sun, 11/29/2020 - 14:55






    The nuclear-powered USS Nimitz aircraft carrier and its strike group are in transit to the Persian Gulf where it will oversee the Trump-ordered withdrawal of up to 5,000 American troops from the region in the coming weeks and months. It's part of Trump's belated efforts to drastically reduce American presence from Iraq and Afghanistan and to bring the troops home.
    The carrier group will provide "defensive capabilities" amid the large-scale logistical operation. While it was deployed prior to the dramatic events of the past days which has seen soaring tensions between Iran, Israel and the US over the high profile assassination of Iran's top nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, the deployment comes as both Iran and Israel are on 'high alert' and a war-footing.


    USS Nimitz aircraft carrier, file image "This action ensures we have sufficient capability available to respond to any threat and to deter any adversary from acting against our troops during the force reduction," a weekend Pentagon said statement said.
    Over the past week the Islamic Republic's elite Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has stepped up its naval drills in the Strait of Hormuz, believed to be a 'show of strength' after widespread reports this month that Trump may be mulling preemptive military action against Iran.
    Tehran has charged that Israel was behind the Friday assassination of Fakhrizadeh in an effort to draw it into a full-blown war, which would also likely draw in the US.
    However, USA Today noted the carrier deployment while coming at a tense time is not responding to any particular threat:
    Navy Cmdr. Rebecca Rebarich, a spokeswoman for the 5th Fleet, said there was no specific threat that led the carrier, its dozens of aircraft and the strike group back to the Persian Gulf.
    Carrier Nimitz Returns to Gulf as Iran Makes Threats https://bit.ly/37kqi8O
    — Military.com (@Militarydotcom) November 29, 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    ....and remember who principally funds this shadowy group.
    Netflix? Yes, very shadowy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    ^ The whole left of center world was gizzing it's pants about Biden mere weeks ago, and now these utter planks are like "huh wut ? Bidun who ? "
    WTF are you on about? Taking too many of your own drugs you peddle on the 'dark web'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    WTF are you on about? Taking too many of your own drugs you peddle on the 'dark web'?
    His posts have always been stupid but of late it is becoming more and more of a waste to even bother reading. He is close to becoming another klondyke.
    Last edited by bsnub; 30-11-2020 at 10:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    he is close to becoming another klondyke.
    . . . and that's saying something. Skidmark, Klondyke, WaahWaah . . . frightening

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    How the attack unfolded


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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    How the attack unfolded


    I hope the hit squad made it out o.k.
    If not R.I.P. - RESPECT - Great Job. To pull something like that off in a dictator country is quite an accomplishment.

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