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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Did you get such knowledge from some of your relatives when visiting the country more than 75 years ago? And some of them - the luckier ones - coming home 10 years later, however, I doubt that they had a chance to see a Russian doctor...

    Actually, the Russians are enjoying a free medical care (almost), something what population in some very rich countries can just dream of.
    Obviously, the situation in health care hasn't improved much, one of the main factors why the Covid rate is so high. Unlike in permanently demonised Russia, where despite their 100 years of turmoil they do not fare so bad, supplying now other countries by their vaccine.
    So with your remarks, you make yourself a laughing stock...
    Yes, there where lucky ones that made it home and never saw a russian doctor. But why should they? Because today the russian doctors are marching after them to Germany. Just imagine, you won the war and then have to beg for a job/freedom from your former enemy.
    Have you ever seen the teeth of a russian? It takes a german dentists months to fix that mess.
    Have you ever seen the aftermath of a russian operation? It helps a lot when trying to identify for example a dead body. Russian operations are unique if you understand what I mean
    Ohh, the BS about the vaccine might just be to complicated for you to understand....so will skip that part. Try first to grasp THE REALITY that I wrote above for you, and then maybe we can continue.



    Russia prepares health care cuts as COVID cases rise


    As COVID-19 cases once again rise in Russia, the federal government is preparing to cut health care expenditures. On Wednesday, the Kremlin sent a proposed 2021-23 budget to the Russian parliament that will ax spending on the medical system by 162 billion rubles ($2 billion) by the end of the fiscal cycle. The news comes as daily new confirmed coronavirus infections have nearly doubled in comparison to August lows of below 5,000. On Friday, Russia added another 9,412 infections to its almost 1.2 million total. At least 21,000 people have died from the illness.
    Starting next year, health care spending will fall to 1.13 trillion rubles ($14.5 billion), down about $2 billion from this yearÂ’s COVID-crisis high. By 2023, expenditures will drop somewhat further to 1.1 trillion rubles. In contrast, the state security services will have an annual budget of nearly 6 trillion rubles ($76 billion).
    Bearing in mind that RussiaÂ’s medical facilities found themselves woefully lacking the necessary equipment, gear, and personnel when coronavirus initially hit in the spring, and that medical needs will only grow due to the pandemic, the proposed cuts are a brazen assault on the populationÂ’s life chances.
    Health care personnel in particular are targeted in the new budget, with expenditures on “Development of human resources in health care” set to fall by 15 percent. Russia’s doctors, nurses, emergency medical technicians and other providers—whose salaries often amount to just a few hundred dollars a month—will see further wage cuts and increased workloads.
    Many of these workers have never seen promised bonuses for their work on the front lines this past spring and summer. Thousands of medical providers labored under deplorable conditions to treat patients and stem the spread of the infection, with many contracting the disease themselves and hundreds dying.

    The effect of the cuts in federal-level health care spending will be intensified by reduced expenditures at the regional level. In order to close its budget shortfall and sustain an increase in financing for the security services, Moscow plans to reduce the amount of money it transfers to provincial governments. Local bodies, which are already suffering major shortfalls because of the economic fallout of the pandemic, will in turn have to impose cuts of their own.
    In St. Petersburg, RussiaÂ’s second largest metropolitan center, local-level health care spending is being axed, with salaries and medical supplies being the central targets. The city, which is facing $1.3 billion in lost revenues due to the COVID shutdown earlier this year, is pulling $1.2 million in funding from its leading institute for research and treatment of the coronavirus, the Botkin Infectious Disease Hospital.
    These measures are being implemented as cases spike, with the reproduction rate of the infection now exceeding 1. By late September, just 6 percent of St. Petersburg’s hospital beds for COVID-19 patients were available, and medical centers have once again been scrambling to convert wards to handle the influx of “second-wave” patients.
    While health care workers report that they are more prepared now than previously because of a greater supply of personal protective equipment (PPE), the city’s health care facilities have been crippled by years of massive cuts implemented as part of the “optimization” of Russia’s medical system, which has meant the shuttering of facilities. Between 2000 and 2015, the number of hospitals in the country decreased by well over 10,000. Over the last several years, there have been ongoing protests by medical workers against the so-called “reform” of the health care system.
    The far-eastern island of Sakhalin, off RussiaÂ’s Pacific coast, also just announced major cuts in government spending in medicine, welfare, education and energy. Authorities in the region, where the monthly median wage is about 57,000 rubles ($740), will ax 435 million rubles ($5.5 million) from health care alone.
    The assault on the Russian working classÂ’ living standards is not restricted to federal drawdowns in health care spending. In the new Kremlin budget, set-asides for families with children are also being cut, as are expenditures on household utilities and support for new mothers.
    These measures are being implemented as millions of households struggle with wage cuts and job losses stemming from the COVID-19 pandemic. According to a recent study by the Higher School of Economics in Moscow, the size of RussiaÂ’s middle class has shrunk dramatically over the course of the year, with another 6.1 percent of working people entering the ranks of the poor.
    The Russian ruling class knows that these conditions are setting the stage of major social conflicts. By the end of the new budgetary cycle, the financing and supply of the army, national guard and security forces of the interior ministry will account for 27 percent of all federal expenditures.

    Russia prepares health care cuts as COVID cases rise - World Socialist Web Site

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    See, the Russians are just like us really! They complain about money too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Have you ever seen the teeth of a russian?
    No, I haven't. In fact, I do not ask people to show me their teeth, do you? My teeth are also not so good looking, maintained by many dentists of different nationalities - none of Russian - now appreciating the effort of Thai dentist...

    Quite strange your ranting, most of the Germans rather do not touch a topic like you. Even the late good old Alt-Kanzler Helmut Schmidt admitted that such industrial murdering what happened in past is for any German really something very perturbing...

    In these days the German TV's are showing commemoration documents of the reunification 30 years ago, talking with participants of all the then dealing around.
    And all of them appreciate the final withdraw of Russian forces - quite unique in the world history. That move was possible only by the most pitiful situation of the Russian state 30 years ago, when a substantial financial support was pledged to them - beside the pledge of not extending the NATO to the Russian gates (James Baker said on full mouth - as the only one - it's a BS).

    Comparing now what development in Russia has been done within 30 years - but perhaps not with the teeth?


    Anyway, I doubt that the Mr. Navalny's appreciation of his Russian doctors will gain him more friends at home, how much of his 1% approval will be increased?

    Wondering why Mr. Putin does not concentrate more with poisoning and shooting on his more dangerous opponents who have 10 - 20 times more approval?

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    ^Don't give him ideas. Anyway, if a German came up to me and asked to inspect my teeth, I would run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ^Don't give him ideas. Anyway, if a German came up to me and asked to inspect my teeth, I would run.
    Because you have the famed British teeth . . . clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ^Don't give him ideas. Anyway, if a German came up to me and asked to inspect my teeth, I would run.
    They are just checking for gold. And maybe silver

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ^Don't give him ideas. Anyway, if a German came up to me and asked to inspect my teeth, I would run.
    Is it safe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    They are just checking for gold. And maybe silver
    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Is it safe?
    Why not to trust?

    Martin Karl Hellinger (born 17 July 1904, date of death unknown) was a German Nazi dentist who in 1943 was assigned to work at the concentration camp for women at Ravensbrück, with the duty of removing dental gold from those killed at the camp.

    At the first Ravensbrück trial, beginning in 1946, he was sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment. He was released in 1955 with funds to re-establish a dental practice. Details of his later life are unknown.

    Martin Hellinger - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Why not to trust?
    Yup - 1945 compared with 2020 . . . and you're just the same kind of scum to pray to a leader who is himself scum. You're worse because you know how bad he is yet you still adore him

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Yup - 1945 compared with 2020 . . . and you're just the same kind of scum to pray to a leader who is himself scum. You're worse because you know how bad he is yet you still adore him
    How gentle the advice of yours... (however, as usually, did not get the clue, the brain still tangled?)

    Just be careful when looking for a dentist in Germany that he is not the one who learned the good skill in the mass removal... (the govt was lucky, no need to teach him, just helping to open new clinic and buying new tools...) (was HermanTheGerman lucky either not to be treated by him?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    How gentle the advice of yours...
    You're welcome - now, if you would take that advice you'd be better off. It's one thing praising advice, yet another to follow it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ^Don't give him ideas. Anyway, if a German came up to me and asked to inspect my teeth, I would run.

    So would any dentist...with your bad breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    No, I haven't. In fact, I do not ask people to show me their teeth, do you?
    It's something called observation. But as I said, it's not only the teeth.
    At least is was for free and some only had to pay with their life's.

    Behind the Iron Curtain: Teeth | | Kansas City With The Russian Accent

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    O.K. Klondyke, at least you are debating and not hiding behind a Rhododendron bush like "NEVERNA".
    That little admin hijabi keeps stalking me and making stupid muslim comments.
    But I must admit, having my own asslifter does flatter me a bit. Keep it coming Love

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Why not to trust?

    Brutal bastards those square heads can be. Is it any wonder why the Russians want to keep them back

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    It's something called observation. But as I said, it's not only the teeth.
    At least is was for free and some only had to pay with their life's.

    Behind the Iron Curtain: Teeth | | Kansas City With The Russian Accent
    Yes, it's not only the teeth - and the way of seeing the things.

    Interesting view behind the Iron Curtain by the one who had lived there, recently deceased...
    https://teakdoor.com/famous-threads/...ghlight=famous (The RIP Famous Person Thread)

    who had reported what's not always very convenient for some.

    Andre Vltchek - Wikipedia


    This article written few weeks before he died was an advice for the young people in HK but should be heed by all silly people of the orange revolutions...

    How we sold the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia for plastic bags
    By Andre Vltchek | HK EDITION | Updated: 2020-06-19 07:12

    For months, this has been a story that I have wanted to share with young readers in Hong Kong. Now it seems to be the really appropriate time, when the ideological battle between some West superpowers and China is raging, and as a result of it, Hong Kong and the entire world is suffering.

    I want to say that none of it is new, that the West superpowers already destabilized so many countries and territories, brainwashed tens of millions of young people.

    I know, because in the past, I was one of them. If I weren't, it would be impossible to understand what is now happening in Hong Kong.

    I was born in Leningrad, a beautiful city in the Soviet Union. Now it is called St. Petersburg, and the country is Russia. Mom is half-Russian, half-Chinese, artist, and architect. My childhood was split between Leningrad and Pilsen, an industrial city known for its beer, at the Western extreme of what used to be Czechoslovakia. Dad was a nuclear scientist.

    The two cities were different. Both represented something essential in the Communist planning, a system that you were taught, by the Western propagandists, to hate.

    Leningrad is one of the most stunning cities in the world, with some of the greatest museums, opera and ballet theaters, public spaces. In the past, it used to be the Russian capital.

    Pilsen is tiny, with only 180,000 inhabitants. But when I was a kid, it counted with several excellent libraries, art cinemas, an opera house, avant-garde theaters, art galleries, a research zoo, with things that could not be, as I realized later (when it was too late), found even in the US cities of 1 million.

    Both cities, one big and one small, had excellent public transportation, vast parks, and forests coming to its outskirts, as well as elegant cafes. Pilsen had countless free tennis facilities, football stadiums, even badminton courts.

    Life was good, meaningful. It was rich. Not rich in terms of money, but rich culturally, intellectually, and healthwise. To be young was fun, with knowledge free and easily accessible, with the culture at every corner, and sports for everyone. The pace was slow: plenty of time to think, learn, analyze.

    But it was also the height of the Cold War.

    We were young, rebellious, and easy to manipulate. We were never satisfied with what we were given. We took for granted everything. At night, we were glued to our radio receivers, listening to the BBC, Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, and other broadcasting services aiming at discrediting socialism and all countries which were fighting against Western imperialism.

    Czech socialist industrial conglomerates were building, in solidarity, entire factories, from steel to sugar mills, in Asia, the Middle East, and Africa. But we saw no glory in this because Western propaganda outlets were simply ridiculing such undertakings.

    Our cinemas were showing masterpieces of Italian, French, Soviet, Japanese cinema. But we were told to demand junk from the US.

    The music offering was great, from live to recorded. Almost all music was, actually, available although with some delay, in local stores or even on stage. What was not sold in our stores was nihilist rubbish. But that was precisely what we were told to desire. And we did desire it, and copied it with religious reverence, on our tape recorders. If something was not available, the Western media outlets were shouting that it is a gross violation of free speech.

    They knew, and they still know now, how to manipulate young brains.
    At some point, we were converted into young pessimists, criticizing everything in our countries, without comparing, without even a tiny bit of objectivity.

    Does it sound familiar?

    We were told, and we repeated: Everything in the Soviet Union or Czechoslovakia was bad. Everything in the West was great. Yes, it was like some fundamentalist religion or mass-madness. Hardly anyone was immune. Actually, we were infected, we were sick, turned into idiots.

    We were using public, socialist facilities, from libraries to theaters, subsidized cafes, to glorify the West and smear our own nations. This is how we were indoctrinated, by Western radio and television stations, and by publications smuggled into the two countries.

    In those days, plastic shopping bags from the West became the status symbols! You know, those bags that you get in some cheap supermarkets or department stores.

    When I think about it at a distance of several decades, I can hardly believe it: Young educated boys and girls, proudly walking down the streets, exhibiting cheap plastic shopping bags, for which they paid a serious amount of money. Because they came from the West. Because they were symbolizing consumerism! Because we were told that consumerism is good.

    We were told that we should desire "freedom". Western-style freedom.
    We were instructed to "fight for freedom".

    In many ways, we were much freer than the West. I realized it when I first arrived in New York and saw how badly educated local children of my age were, and how shallow their knowledge of the world was; and how little culture there was in regular midsize North American cities.

    We wanted, we demanded designer jeans. We were longing for Western music labels in the center of our LPs. It was not about the essence or the message. It was form over substance.

    Our food was tastier, ecologically produced. But we wanted colorful Western packaging. We demanded chemicals.

    We were constantly angry, agitated, confrontational. We were antagonizing our families.

    We were young, but we felt old.

    I published my first book of poetry, then left, slammed the door behind me, went to New York.

    And soon after, I realized that I was fooled!

    This is a very simplified version of my story. Space is limited.

    But I am glad I can share it with my Hong Kong readers, and of course, with my young readers all over China.

    Two wonderful countries which used to be my home were betrayed, literally sold for nothing, for pairs of designer jeans, and plastic shopping bags.

    The West celebrated! Months after the collapse of the socialist system, both countries were literally robbed of everything by Western companies. People lost their homes and jobs, and internationalism was deterred. Proud socialist companies got privatized and, in many cases, liquidated. Theaters and art cinemas were converted into cheap secondhand clothes markets.

    In Russia, life expectancy dropped to African sub-Saharan levels.

    Czechoslovakia was broken into two parts.

    Now, decades later, both Russia and Czechia are wealthy again. Russia has many elements of a socialist system with central planning.

    But I miss my two countries, as they used to be, and all surveys show that the majority of people there miss them too. I also feel guilty, day and night, for allowing myself to be indoctrinated, to be used, and in a way to betray.

    After seeing the world, I understand that what happened to both the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia also happened to many other parts of the world. And right now, the West superpowers are aiming at China by using Hong Kong.

    Whenever in China's mainland, whenever in Hong Kong, I keep repeating: Please do not follow our terrible example. Defend your nation! Do not sell it, metaphorically, for some filthy plastic shopping bags. Do not do something that you would regret for the rest of your lives!

    How we sold the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia for plastic bags - Chinadaily.com.cn

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    An interesting read- cheers. Other than winning the space race, the Soviets also pipped us in the sexual revolution. Swinging sixties my arse- swinging soviets! But we didn't find that out until later, I always thought as a kid soviet women were big fat strong, ugly things- like bulgarian shotputters (who may or may not have actually been women), hauling potato sacks and dragging carts. Glasnost, Raisa Gorbachev & Anna Kournikova came later.

    But I was quicker to the draw than most westerners, having spent a weekend in Moscow in 1982- compliments of Aeroflot. Even sold a pair of fake Levi's there, bought in Penang. And ended up with worthless rubles I couldn't exchange, so it really was a case of the blind robbing the blind. Oh, Russian bread is the best in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Interesting view behind the Iron Curtain by the one who had lived there
    That would be you, right tovarish?



    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Oh, Russian bread is the best in the world.
    You haven't travelled much, have you . . .

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    'Tis the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    worthless rubles I couldn't exchange,
    Why you did not buy Sovetskoe Shampanskoye?


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    There are some absolute sidesplitters in there:

    "I want to say that none of it is new, that the West superpowers already destabilized so many countries and territories, brainwashed tens of millions of young people."

    "After seeing the world, I understand that what happened to both the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia also happened to many other parts of the world. And right now, the West superpowers are aiming at China by using Hong Kong.

    Whenever in China's mainland, whenever in Hong Kong, I keep repeating: Please do not follow our terrible example. Defend your nation!"

    Every time I look at it I find another WTF? paragraph or two:

    "Our cinemas were showing masterpieces of Italian, French, Soviet, Japanese cinema. But we were told to demand junk from the US.

    The music offering was great, from live to recorded. Almost all music was, actually, available although with some delay, in local stores or even on stage. What was not sold in our stores was nihilist rubbish. But that was precisely what we were told to desire. And we did desire it, and copied it with religious reverence, on our tape recorders. If something was not available, the Western media outlets were shouting that it is a gross violation of free speech."

    I wonder where Klongdick has got this piece of revisionist propaganda bullshit from?

    Source: "Chinadaily."

    You've posted some absolute nonsense in your time Klongdick, but this could top the lot. Tell the troll factory to send you some better material- sharpish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    brainwashed tens of millions of young people."
    . . . luckily in China it was only one billion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    . . . luckily in China it was only one billion.
    It's a shame so many people have Klongdick on ignore because that piece is deserving of a wider audience for its absurdity.

    Even by his low standards, its preposterous for anyone who has spent time in the former Soviet Union with people who lived under draconian Soviet rule and brutality where all freedoms were curtailed and every day was a day longing to be in the west.

    Apart from the select few at the top, of course, who were a bit more equal than others in his Socialist utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    its preposterous for anyone who has spent time in the former Soviet Union
    . . . and China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    An interesting read- cheers. Other than winning the space race, the Soviets also pipped us in the sexual revolution. Swinging sixties my arse- swinging soviets! But we didn't find that out until later, I always thought as a kid soviet women were big fat strong, ugly things- like bulgarian shotputters (who may or may not have actually been women), hauling potato sacks and dragging carts. Glasnost, Raisa Gorbachev & Anna Kournikova came later.

    But I was quicker to the draw than most westerners, having spent a weekend in Moscow in 1982- compliments of Aeroflot. Even sold a pair of fake Levi's there, bought in Penang. And ended up with worthless rubles I couldn't exchange, so it really was a case of the blind robbing the blind. Oh, Russian bread is the best in the world.
    The most beautiful women I've ever seen were in Croatia. Behind that would be Romania and the Czech Republic, but I too grew up with the idea of a Bulgarian shotputter because those were the only ones they ever let out of the Bloc!

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