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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    You are supporting war with Russia.
    Russias Navalny in coma in ICU after alleged poisoning-non-sequitur-do-you-know-what

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Well see if this is like Salisbury. Where the FSB special agents flew side by side , direct to Britain on an Aeroflot flight.
    I doubt we will. That would require Putin ordering a proper investigation, you numbskull.

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    I wonder if he is glowing?

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    Germany has sent an ambulance plane and a team of doctors. Let's see if they let him go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Germany has sent an ambulance plane and a team of doctors. Let's see if they let him go.
    They've already said they won't. It's "too dangerous" apparently.

    Yeah, dangerous to the bloodythirsty dictator most likely.

    Added: They have already started spreading interweb nonsense that he is a drug-addled alcoholic and that's what did it.

    No surprise there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If he survives,
    He will need to exchange his team around - and live with the fear again that the next staff will succeed ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They've already said they won't
    No, they've already said they will...

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    Doctors Bar Navalny’s Evacuation to Germany as Confusion Surrounds Presence of Poison in System



    A day after Alexei Navalny was hospitalized in an apparent poisoning attempt, doctors are barring his evacuation to Germany citing his unstable condition, while confusion surrounds the presence of poison in the prominent Russian opposition leader’s system.


    Navalny, 44, lost consciousness an hour into a flight from the Siberian city of Tomsk to Moscow on Thursday. After his plane made an emergency landing in the Siberian city of Omsk, he was transported to a hospital, where the deputy doctor told journalists the hospital was “working on saving his life.” He said that the opposition leader was connected to a ventilator and in critical condition.


    Navalny’s team has pushed for the Kremlin critic to be transferred to a leading European toxicology center, citing a lack of necessary equipment at the regional hospital and a worry that Russian doctors will be pressured by the authorities to withhold details of the cause of his illness.


    An air ambulance departed from Germany early Friday morning to collect Navalny, but the regional hospital’s head doctor said his condition was unstable and he could not be transferred, according to the Kremlin critic’s spokeswoman Kira Yarmysh.


    The head of Navalny’s Anti-Corruption Foundation Ivan Zhdanov, who was also at the scene, told journalists that police reported that a “poison” was found in Navalny’s system that is “dangerous to those around him,” but that law enforcement wouldn't name the substance.


    Later on Friday morning, the hospital's deputy chief doctor contradicted this statement, saying that "no trace" of poison had been found in Navalny's system during tests so far.


    “Until now doctors had said that they are ready to authorize transportation. That is why we organized it in the shortest possible time,” Yarmysh wrote on Twitter. “Now, at the last moment, doctors are not giving permission. This decision, of course, was not made by them but by the Kremlin.”



    MORE Doctors Bar Navalny’s Evacuation to Germany as Confusion Surrounds Presence of Poison in System - The Moscow Times

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    ^ Turns out there was no poison at all. And it was just a metabolic condition that he has

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    ^ Link?

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    Alexie Navalny allowed to fly to Germany, say Russian doctors


    Doctors at the Siberian hospital where opposition politician Alexei Navalny lies in a coma after suspected poisoning have allowed his family to transport him to a top German medical facility, the hospital's deputy chief doctor has said.


    "We... took the decision that we do not oppose his transfer to another hospital, the one that his relatives indicate to us," Anatoly Kalinichenko, deputy chief doctor at Omsk hospital, told journalists late on Friday.


    The flight from the Siberian city of Omsk is scheduled for Saturday morning, Russia's RIA Novosti news agency reported, citing airport officials.

    Navalny, 44, a fierce critic of President Vladimir Putin and his lieutenants, is in a serious condition after drinking tea on a plane on Thursday that his allies believe was laced with poison.


    A plane with German specialists and equipment necessary to transfer Navalny for treatment in Berlin landed at Omsk airport on Friday morning.


    German doctors who examined him said Navalny was fit to be flown abroad for medical treatment.


    Doctors at the Siberian hospital earlier said he had been diagnosed with a metabolic disease caused by low blood sugar and he was not in a condition to be transported.


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    Navalny's allies had criticised Kremlin for not allowing his medical evacuation to Germany, saying he faces mortal danger and the Siberian hospital treating him was under-equipped.


    Navalny's wife Yulia Navalnaya told reporters that hospital staff and men she suspected were law enforcement agents didn't let her speak to the German specialists, who she said were brought into the facility in secrecy, through a back door.


    "I was forcibly kicked out in a rude manner," Yulia Navalnaya said, her voice shaking. "This is an appalling situation. They are not letting us take Alexei. We believe that clearly something is being hidden from us."


    She submitted a written request for a transfer on Friday to Putin. "I officially apply to you with a demand for permission to take Alexei Navalny to Germany," she posted on Navalny's Twitter account.

    Leonid Volkov, Navalny's chief of staff, said his family had "no diagnosis, no analysis" and no access to reliable data about his condition, accusing the Russian authorities of trying to conduct a "cover-up operation".


    Later on Friday, the European Court of Human Rights said it was considering a request from Navalny's allies to urge the Russian government to let the politician be transferred.

    Alexie Navalny allowed to fly to Germany, say Russian doctors | News | Al Jazeera

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    Navalny's wife is very probably correct.

    • Alexei Navalny is in a coma after a suspected poisoning
    • Russian health officials will allow Navalny to be airlifted to Berlin
    • Navalny's wife believes that doctors at the Siberian hospital were deliberately delaying his transfer so that the chemical substance has time to disappear from her husband's metabolism
    Alexei Navalny live updates: Russian doctors allow Navalny′s transfer to Germany | News | DW | 21.08.2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    It's a far cry from pinky and perky's incessant whataboutism.
    I nicknamed my first girlfriend's breasts pinky and perky...lovely pair they were...

    I'll find my own way out...

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    If he has been poisoned, Ohklondoh will no doubt inform TD how it was perpetrated by western powers (no names here) to damage that prince of peace and KGB icon of human rights, poor Vlad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    If he has been poisoned, Ohklondoh will no doubt inform TD how it was perpetrated by western powers (no names here) to damage that prince of peace and KGB icon of human rights, poor Vlad.
    . . . and the segue to asbestos in building and Angola and how China is helping the natives rebuild their lives after Portuguese colonial oppression

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    If he has been poisoned
    If the alleged poisoning has taken place in Russia, I would suspect the Russian authorities would be called in, if not already investigating, the incident.

    Presuming of course poisoning a fellow citizen, as opposed by a foreigner, is an illegal offence, in Russia.

    It may not be though.

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    Comatose Russian dissident stable upon arrival in Germany


    BERLIN (AP) — Russian dissident Alexei Navalny, who is in a coma after a suspected poisoning, arrived in Berlin on a special flight Saturday for treatment by specialists at the German capital’s main hospital.


    “Navalny is in Berlin,” Jaka Bizilj, of the German organization Cinema For Peace, which organized the flight, told The Associated Press. “He survived the flight and he’s stable.”


    After touching down shortly before 9 a.m. at a special area of the capital’s Tegel airport used for government and military flights, Navalny was taken by ambulance to the downtown campus of Berlin’s Charite hospital.


    The hospital later issued a statement saying extensive tests were being carried out on Navalny, and doctors would not comment on his illness or treatment until those were completed.


    Navalny, a politician and corruption investigator who is one of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s fiercest critics, was admitted to an intensive care unit in the Siberian city of Omsk on Thursday. His supporters believe that tea he drank was laced with poison — and that the Kremlin is behind both his illness and the delay in transferring him to a top German hospital.

    When German specialists arrived aboard a plane equipped with advanced medical equipment Friday morning at his family’s behest, Navalny’s physicians in Omsk initially said he was too unstable to move.


    Navalny’s supporters denounced that as a ploy by authorities to stall until any poison in his system would no longer be traceable. The Omsk medical team relented only after a charity that had organized the medevac plane revealed that the German doctors examined the politician and said he was fit to be transported.


    Deputy chief doctor of the Omsk hospital Anatoly Kalinichenko then told reporters that Navalny’s condition had stabilized and that physicians “didn’t mind” transferring the politician, given that his relatives were willing “to take on the risks.”


    The Kremlin denied that resistance to the transfer was political, with spokesman Dmitry Peskov saying that it was purely a medical decision. However, the reversal came as international pressure on Russia’s leadership mounted.


    It would not be the first time a prominent, outspoken Russian was targeted in such a way — or the first time the Kremlin was accused of being behind it.


    On Thursday, leaders of France and Germany said the two countries were ready to offer Navalny and his family any and all assistance and insisted on an investigation into what happened.

    The most prominent member of Russia’s opposition, Navalny campaigned to challenge Putin in the 2018 presidential election but was barred from running. Since then, he has been promoting opposition candidates in regional elections, challenging members of the ruling party, United Russia.


    His Foundation for Fighting Corruption has been exposing graft among government officials, including some at the highest level. But he had to shut the foundation last month after a financially devastating lawsuit from a businessman with close ties to the Kremlin.


    Navalny fell ill on a flight back to Moscow from Siberia on Thursday and was taken to the hospital after the plane made an emergency landing. His team made arrangements to transfer him to Charité, a clinic in Berlin that has a history of treating famous foreign leaders and dissidents.


    Dr. Yaroslav Ashikhmin, Navalny’s physician in Moscow, told The Associated Press that being on a plane with specialized equipment, including a ventilator and a machine that can do the work of the heart and lungs, “can be even safer than staying in a hospital in Omsk.”


    Navalny’s spokesperson, Kira Yarmysh posted pictures of what she said was a bathroom inside the hospital that showed squalid conditions, including walls with paint peeling off, rusting pipes, and a dirty floor and walls.


    While his supporters and family members continue to insist that Navalny was poisoned, doctors in Omsk denied that and put forward another theory.


    The hospital’s chief doctor, Alexander Murakhovsky, said in a video published by Omsk news outlet NGS55 that a metabolic disorder was the most likely diagnosis and that a drop in blood sugar may have caused Navalny to lose consciousness.


    Another doctor with ties to the politician, Dr. Anastasia Vasilyeva, said that diagnosing Navalny with a “metabolic disorder” says nothing about what may have caused it — and it could have been the result of a poisoning.


    Ashikhmin, who has been Navalny’s doctor since 2013, said the politician has always been in good health, regularly went for medical checkups and didn’t have any underlying illnesses that could have triggered his condition.


    Western toxicology experts expressed doubts that a poisoning could have been ruled out so quickly.


    “It takes a while to rule things out. And particularly if something is highly toxic — it will be there in very low concentrations, and many screening tests would just not pick that substance up,” said Alastair Hay, an emeritus professor and toxicology expert from the school of medicine at the University of Leeds.


    Like many other opposition politicians in Russia, Navalny has been frequently detained by law enforcement and harassed by pro-Kremlin groups. In 2017, he was attacked by several men who threw antiseptic in his face, damaging an eye.


    Last year, Navalny was rushed to a hospital from jail where he was serving a sentence on charges of violating protest regulations. His team also suspected poisoning then. Doctors said he had a severe allergic reaction and sent him back to detention the following day.

    Comatose Russian dissident stable upon arrival in Germany

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    Moscow protest leader Navalny transferred from Siberian hospital, airlifted to Germany (VIDEOS)

    22 Aug, 2020 00:52 / Updated 8 hours ago

    Moscow protest leader Navalny transferred from Siberian hospital, airlifted to Germany (VIDEOS) — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

    Moscow protest leader Navalny admitted to hospital in Berlin after being airlifted from Siberia


    22 Aug, 2020 07:25 / Updated 3 hours ago

    Moscow protest leader Navalny admitted to hospital in Berlin after being airlifted from Siberia — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

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    Comatose Russian dissident stable upon arrival in Germany
    Comatose Russian dissident stable upon arrival in Germany

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    Comatose Russian dissident stable upon arrival in Germany


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    Wondering whether such huge concern of "international community" and a private jet be promptly ready to service to another opponent of a superpower when ill sick in prison... even when so many world personalities ask for that (whataboutism? or a double standard?)

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    Sabang, please leave the indoctrinated to a life of ignorance.


    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    if Vlad really wanted him dead, wouldn't he be dead by now

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    is he still in a coma?as the daughter of a russian agent poisoned in the uk,yulia skipal was in a coma for three weeks.maybe it was another warning,he's had a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    daughter of a russian agent poisoned in the uk,yulia skipal was in a coma for three weeks
    Does MI6 have agents/Russian embassy staff frequenting airport toilets and deadly drugs stockpiled at every Russian provincial airport?

    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    maybe it was another warning
    The Russians are experts at getting the dosage correct and delivering the required result. As usual.
    Last edited by OhOh; 23-08-2020 at 01:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Does MI6 have agents/Russian embassy staff frequenting airport toilets and deadly drugs stockpiled at every Russian provincial airport?
    One thing has nothing to do with the other


    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The Russians are experts at getting the dosage correct and delivering the required result. As usual.
    Except they're not - Russia is the western world's China. Primitive and thuggish

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Except they're not - Russia is the western world's China. Primitive and thuggish
    Trying to keep the dose small enough to metabolise and still kill him, without really knowing how much of it he would drink. Not a precise science.

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