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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Strange how so many of Putins critics end up being poisoned.

    Suspected poison attacks on Kremlin critics
    More were killed in the 90's. Politics in Russia is like playing hockey. Politics in the west is like playing soccer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    More were killed in the 90's.
    . . . and in the 1800s, 1700s, 1600s, 1500s, in Biafra, Cambodia etc...

    Good debating technique, Skidmark

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    Number of participants in Belarus protests on September 11 did not exceed 450 people

    12 Sep, 11:23

    "No more than 450 people took part in protests in Belarus on Friday, the country's Interior Ministry reported on Saturday. According to the ministry, 32 demonstrators were detained, 18 of whom remain in custody.

    "The total number of participants in 13 protests, which took place in three regions of the republic, did not exceed 450 people. At the same time, unauthorized events were noted in several places in the capital," the ministry's Telegram channel said in a statement."

    Number of participants in Belarus protests on September 11 did not exceed 450 people - World - TASS
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Yes, we'd believe TASS . . .



    . . . when it comes to counting to 400 . . . unless it's to their advantage

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Yes, we'd believe TASS . . .



    . . . when it comes to counting to 400 . . . unless it's to their advantage
    And the regime change news will pump it the other way

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    What happened OHOH and Klondyke failing to convince anyone so Moscow has sent their boss.

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    I get OHOH and Klondyke, but maybe you can elaborate on the real story in Belarus. Do you believe that Lukashenko won 80% of the vote and he truly is the the peoples choice for President? That the demonstrations are a western plot? That no one is disappearing and the pictures of thousands of demonstrators are the minority? If so, please put up credible sources and prove it. Not opinion or Russian govt controlled news or youtubers, obfuscation, or strawmen. Then at least some TDers including myself will look at your posts objectively which is what no one does with OhOh and Klondyke. A bit like watching fox news among others, where one has to check everything that is expressed as fact. In the end it is easier to ignore them and just find a more reliable,objective source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    And the regime change news will pump it the other way
    You can only see 400 people too?




    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    I get OHOH and Klondyke, but maybe you can elaborate on the real story in Belarus. Do you believe that Lukashenko won 80% of the vote and he truly is the the peoples choice for President? That the demonstrations are a western plot? That no one is disappearing and the pictures of thousands of demonstrators are the minority? If so, please put up credible sources and prove it. Not opinion or Russian govt controlled news or youtubers, obfuscation, or strawmen. Then at least some TDers including myself will look at your posts objectively which is what no one does with OhOh and Klondyke. A bit like watching fox news among others, where one has to check everything that is expressed as fact. In the end it is easier to ignore them and just find a more reliable,objective source.
    Yup yup yup

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    A sneak peek at the email Vlad sent to the TASS editor....

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Number of participants in Belarus protests on September 11 did not exceed <insert ridiculously low made up number here comrade> people

    12 Sep, 11:23
    Number of participants in Belarus protests on September 11 did not exceed 450 people - World - TASS

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    10,000 women march to demand that Belarus president resign


    KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — About 10,000 women marched noisily through the Belarusian capital on Saturday, beating pots and pans and shouting for the resignation of the country’s authoritarian president in the 35th consecutive day of large anti-government protests.


    Many carried portraits of Maria Kolesnikova, a leader of the opposition Coordination Council that is seeking a new presidential election for the ex-Soviet nation of 9.5 million people. She was jailed this week after police tried to force her out of the country. Her lawyer says Kolesnikova was driven to the border with Ukraine, but tore up her passport and refused to leave Belarus.


    Others carried placards reading “ “You painted my heart with blue pain,” referring to President Alexander Lukashenko’s claim that some women previously had painted themselves to appear to have been bruised by police beatings.


    The human rights group Viasna said more than 70 people were detained by police during the march.


    Lukashenko refuses to meet with the council, and most of its leaders have been detained or have left the country.


    The protests began Aug. 9 after a presidential election that officials say handed Lukashenko a sixth term in office with 80% support. Opponents and some poll workers say the election results were rigged. Some protesters have displayed bruises from a violent police crackdown in the days after the election, when over 7,000 protesters were detained.


    The protests are the largest and most widespread of Lukashenko’s 26 years in power. Sunday demonstrations in the capital of Minsk have repeatedly brought out crowds of more than 100,000. Protests have broken out in other major cities in Belarus and strikes have hit some of the country’s major state-owned industries, previously a base of support for the embattled 66-year-old leader.


    Lukashenko met Saturday with top officials of the country’s security agencies. Throughout the unrest, he has rejected any concessions, has repeatedly accused Belarus’ western neighbors of preparing to overthrow his government. In one show of aggressive defiance, he was seen striding with an automatic rifle across the grounds of his presidential residence.


    As the protests persist, questions loom about possible action by Russia to prop up his regime. Lukashenko is meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday in their first face-to-face contact since the unrest began.


    Putin has said he stands ready to send Russian police into Belarus if the protests turn violent, stoking fears that Moscow could use the political dissent as an excuse to annex its neighbor. The countries have a union agreement envisaging close political, economic and military ties, although Lukashenko has repeatedly expressed concerns that Putin wants Russia to absorb Belarus entirely.


    10,000 women march to demand that Belarus president resign

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    10,000 women march to demand that Belarus president resign
    I'm sure OhNo's next post will be something like:


    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Number of women participants in Belarus protests did not exceed 45 people and anyone not agreeing is a monpolokatipalistic pigdog

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    Hey! You nicked my word!

    And I believe the correct nomenclature is western pigdog

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    10,000 women march to demand that Belarus president resign
    I'm sure OhNo's next post will be something like:
    Another Colour Revolution Attempt? Belarus - Election Time.-800-jpeg


    The headline photo from MK's post.

    One visible "woman".

    Your own post:

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Yes, we'd believe TASS . . .
    Has a photo, which has no quoted source. There is an AFP/getty image sticker but no date, location etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Yes, we'd believe TASS . . .



    . . . when it comes to counting to 400 . . . unless it's to their advantage
    It's a bit muddy
    "The total number of participants in 13 protests, which took place in three regions of the republic, did not exceed 450 people. At the same time, unauthorized events were noted in several places in the capital," the ministry's Telegram channel said in a statement."
    I think the protests accounted for the 450 number, whereas your picture is the 'unauthorized events'.


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    They protest in the unauthorized areas to force the police hands. To stage it all up for the Western media.

    You know it's all funded by Regime Change Inc. when the headline is 10k women protest. Next week it will be the gays

    You need permits to protest in the west too

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    I think the protests accounted for the 450 number, whereas your picture is the 'unauthorized events'.
    Aaaahhh . . . propaganda. Isn't it a wonderful thing especially when you have people willing to believe and excuse and support oppressive fascist regimes.

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    Hundreds arrested in Minsk as protesters aim for elite district where Lukashenko’s top officials live

    Protesters in Minsk attempted to make their way to the elite district where top Belarusian government officials reside, but were met by a large police force on the way. At least 400 people were arrested during Sunday's protests.


    Thousands of people took part in Sunday's protest against President Alexander Lukashenko, which the pro-opposition social media dubbed "the march of heroes." Instead of starting in the center of the capital like most previous rallies, Sunday’s march aimed for the posh Drozdy district, which hosts the houses of the country's top politicians and business figures, including one of the residences of President Lukashenko.

    MORE Hundreds arrested in Minsk as protesters aim for elite district where Lukashenko’s top officials live — RT World News

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Hundreds arrested in Minsk as protesters aim for elite district where Lukashenko’s top officials live

    Protesters in Minsk attempted to make their way to the elite district where top Belarusian government officials reside, but were met by a large police force on the way. At least 400 people were arrested during Sunday's protests.
    Maybe it was 450 and they arrested ALL of them.

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    Belarus charges opposition leader with 'undermining national security' | World news | The Guardian

    Opposition leader, Kolesnikova, charged with "actions aimed at undermining national security" and facing 5 years in the big house.

    Right out of the old Putin playbook, but at least she hasn't been given a Kremlyn cuppa...yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Right out of the old Putin playbook, but at least she hasn't been given a Kremlyn cuppa...yet.
    All right at the end of the day . . . Putin offers troops, or has been requested for troops. Klondyke and OhNo explain why there is no democratic model that fits only western eyes and look at how black people are treated in the US and all is well.

    Plus ća change . . .




    (Kremlyn cuppa - nice)

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    What has the EU's FM in his head? Belarus or Ukraine? How generous his care...

    (perhaps he already has forgotten his generous care as Spain's FM for his cousins in Catalonia...)

    Actually - by a mistake - he has spoken the truth...

    Borrell calls Lukashenko "illegitimate president of Ukraine" at EP session

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    What has the EU's FM in his head?
    Clearly far more than you have ever had or will ever have.

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    ^Luckily, it gives you always a chance to tell us something clever... Otherwise, what else to write about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Opposition leader, Kolesnikova, charged with "actions aimed at undermining national security" and facing 5 years in the big house.

    Right out of the old Putin playbook
    Open your eyes prior to casting the first stone.

    You may wish to review the countries that have Anti terrorism/national security laws in their portfolio.

    It appears Russia and China are not alone.



    3 Anti-terrorist legislation in the European Union


    Anti-terrorism legislation - Wikipedia

    Turning over one stone does unfortunately open up the layer of stones beneath it. Revealing other stones into view with different countries flags embossed on them.

    Of course some unexcetional regimes even step outside their own national and international laws and utilise drones/embedded "secret service teams", to fire missiles/snipers on families out for an afternoon's picnic.
    Last edited by OhOh; 17-09-2020 at 05:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Open your eyes prior to casting the first stone.

    You may wish to review the countries that have Anti terrorism/national security laws in their portfolio.
    And then exclude the ones that actually use it to fight terrorism, and not as an excuse to arrest or kill anyone who is a political opponent or threatens their dictatorship.

    Narrows it pretty well down to the scum that you spend all your time sucking up to.

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