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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Precisely, but they'll supervise every phase of the rebuilding, rather than follow the somewhat naive western route of handing over money to corrupt politicians on the strength of worthless promises and hoping part of the job gets done.

    Credit where due, they understand how things really work.
    Not only that they'll bring in their own crews to do the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh no, they'll be spending some of that cashing lining the pockets of the politicians who would sign over the port to them.

    Get their money back.

    Get interest.

    Get a Port.

    Then they'd probably start charging the Lebos to get things out of customs to boot.

    And to shut up Hizbollah, they'll probably provide them with some nice chinky military hardware.

    They don't give a fuck how they make their money.
    In other words , Lebannon will get a new port , will make some payments and then default. Which means they get the port for free. China will get strategic needs out of it and it will function for the Lebanons needs as well.

    Looks like a win win. Far from ideal but better than having no fucking port at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    In other words , Lebannon will get a new port , will make some payments and then default. Which means they get the port for free. China will get strategic needs out of it and it will function for the Lebanons needs as well.

    Looks like a win win. Far from ideal but better than having no fucking port at all

    You have no fucking idea what this is about, do you?

    Originally Posted by harrybarracuda (A powerful blast has just rocked the Lebanese capital of Beirut.)
    The chinkies will be lining up some loans that Beirut will not be able to afford to pay back. So they can get the money straight back with some interest, use chinky labour to build a new port and when the loan defaults, nick it like they did in Sri Lanka.

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    ^Why they do not do as others do?

    Most U.S. Port Terminals Are Foreign-Run : NPR
    Most U.S. Port Terminals Are Foreign-Run : NPR

    Who owns the U.S. ports? - msnbc
    Who owns the U.S. ports? - msnbc - Hardball with Chris Matthews | NBC News

    Experts warn of China’s influence at U.S. ports
    Experts warn of China’s influence at U.S. ports - FreightWaves

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They don't give a fuck how they make their money.
    Unusual aspect of global trade no doubt to some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Have you made your donation yet?
    I'm following the lead of a western agency:

    Iran calls on US to lift sanctions on Lebanon, urges against ‘politicizing’ Beirut blast



    "the Pentagon has claimed that it needs to be more cautious when administering aid to Lebanon, and expressed “concerns with whom the aid would go to.”

    Iran calls on US to lift sanctions on Lebanon, urges against ‘politicizing’ Beirut blast — RT World News
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I'm following the lead of a western agency:

    Iran calls on US to lift sanctions on Lebanon, urges against ‘politicizing’ Beirut blast



    "the Pentagon has claimed that it needs to be more cautious when administering aid to Lebanon, and expressed “concerns with whom the aid would go to.”

    Iran calls on US to lift sanctions on Lebanon, urges against ‘politicizing’ Beirut blast — RT World News
    You haven't read about the sanctions at all have you?

    I'll repeat what I said, because you might have missed it, or perhaps you're trying to pretend it doesn't exist.

    There are no sanctions against "Lebanon", there are sanctions against the Hizbollah terrorists and their terrorist supporters.

    And how much did you donate to help the Lebanese about whom you pretend to care so much?

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    Here's the link again so that HooHoo and Backspin can demonstrate their sincerity.

    Donation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    ^Why they do not do as others do?

    Most U.S. Port Terminals Are Foreign-Run : NPR
    Most U.S. Port Terminals Are Foreign-Run : NPR

    Who owns the U.S. ports? - msnbc
    Who owns the U.S. ports? - msnbc - Hardball with Chris Matthews | NBC News

    Experts warn of China’s influence at U.S. ports
    Experts warn of China’s influence at U.S. ports - FreightWaves
    The Seppo empire is a crew of raving hypocrites. After they won the so called war on communism , Clinton jumped in bed with the Communist party of China. It was all about regime change back then too. And its funny how badly that worked out

    The modern world is the hideous love child between Margret Thatcher and Deng Xiopeng

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    Beirut explosion: Lebanon's government 'to resign' as death toll rises



    The Lebanese government is reportedly about to resign amid mounting anger over last Tuesday's explosion in Beirut that killed more than 200 people.

    Health Minister Hamad Hasan was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying an announcement would be made soon.

    Three ministers have already stepped down, but there have been calls for the whole cabinet to go.

    Beirut explosion: Lebanon's government 'to resign' as death toll rises - BBC News


    time for the iranians via their proxy hezbollah to step up to the plate no doubt.

    and their neighbours to the south will be tooling up on hearing this news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    time for the iranians via their proxy hezbollah to step up to the plate no doubt.

    and their neighbours to the south will be tooling up on hearing this news.
    Hezbollah have been backing Aoun.

    They are way past the "stepping up" phase, except to trumpanzee-like Shi'ites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The Seppo empire is a crew of raving hypocrites. After they won the so called war on communism , Clinton jumped in bed with the Communist party of China. It was all about regime change back then too. And its funny how badly that worked out

    The modern world is the hideous love child between Margret Thatcher and Deng Xiopeng

    Backspin reminds me of that gobby fucker that kept getting tripped up in The Fast Show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    hezbollah to step up to the plate
    They have their politicians already in the coalition government. Not sure if any of them are those who have allegedly resigned, yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    how much did you donate to help the Lebanese
    Typical western SOP, wreck a country, regime change, demanded by a funded managed mob, throw cash to allow promises to be made by a "selected few" candidates, place "support" (their unexceptional military) near by, to threaten.

    They need a decent government not the western vassals they had in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You haven't read about the sanctions at all have you?
    These I previously posted, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Here are a few:

    Lebanon-Related Sanctions

    UK sanctions on Lebanon - GOV.UK

    Canada adds Lebanon on list of sanctions - Lebanon News

    Lebanon - EU Sanctions

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    They have their politicians already in the coalition government. Not sure if any of them are those who have allegedly resigned, yet.


    Typical western SOP, wreck a country, regime change, demanded by a funded managed mob, throw cash to allow promises to be made by a "selected few" candidates, place "support" (their unexceptional military) near by, to threaten.

    They need a decent government not the western vassals they had in place.

    So HooHoo have you donated yet?

    The link I provided is a solely Lebanese charity that has been around a long time, provides medical services, feeds and educates people, etc.

    They will take food, blankets, or financial donations.

    If you don't donate, one can only assume that you don't really care about the Lebanese people at all and you're just full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    These I previously posted, yes.
    Then why do you keep calling them "sanctions against Lebanon"?

    There are no sanctions against "Lebanon", there are sanctions against the Hizbollah terrorists and their terrorist supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    "sanctions against Lebanon"?
    Because they affect Lebanese citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    There are no sanctions against "Lebanon", there are sanctions against the Hizbollah terrorists and their terrorist supporters.
    Why we do not understand such clear matter? (as 'arry's understanding - who can be more clever than him?)

    Hadn't such sanctions been imposed against Fidel and his party, not against Cuba, had they? And see how the sanctions have helped to Cuban people: their doctors can now help to cure their neighbours...
    (similarly the sanctions are helping to Russians, wasn't here recently the link?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Because they affect Lebanese citizens.
    Which is not the same as the country or its government. So stop being so stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So stop being so stupid.
    Not possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Not possible.
    The insights we have here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The insights we have here

    Have you made your donation yet?

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    Derp...wrong thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Have you made your donation yet?
    It's all politics Harold. No amount of money will fix any of it

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    Container lines resume calls to Beirut as terminal restarts operations

    "Container lines have resumed calls to Beirut after last week’s explosion, with the terminal having sustained only minor damage, leading companies said on Tuesday. The Aug. 4 blast in Beirut’s port, which killed more than 160 people and injured 6,000 more, demolished entire neighbourhoods of Lebanon’s capital in seconds.

    Container lines diverted ships to Lebanon’s smaller port of Tripoli to keep vital supply lines running.
    “We are glad to advise that the container terminal suffered only minor damage and it has restarted operations,” German container line Hapag Lloyd (HLAG.DE) said in a note to customers on Tuesday, adding that its first ship to call at Beirut since the disaster is due to dock on Aug. 14.

    “Alongside our service reinstatement, we are also reopening booking acceptance for cargo to and from Beirut,” the company said, adding that it was still evaluating the extent of damage to its containers that were in the port at the time of the blast.

    Hapag Lloyd’s office in Beirut had been completely destroyed but staff were unharmed.
    Lebanon, which imports almost everything it uses, relies on container ships to bring in items ranging from refrigerated food cargoes to clothing and other consumer goods.
    Beirut’s container port has an annual average capacity of just over 1 million TEUs (20 foot equivalent units), compared with Tripoli’s 400,000 TEUs, which could be enlarged to 600,000 TEUs and a maximum of 750,000 TEUs if more cranes are installed, shipping data shows.
    French container line CMA CGM said separately on Tuesday it was fully operational again in Beirut, adding that its first container vessel had discharged in the port on Monday.

    “The operation was very smooth. The container vessels commercial operations are resuming normally since the 10th of August at Beirut port,” CMA said in a statement.

    “Ships were temporarily diverted to Tripoli where a logistics hub has been established, as well as to other ports in the region.”
    CMA said last week that one of its Beirut staff who had been missing after the explosion had died. "

    Container lines resume calls to Beirut as terminal restarts operations - Reuters

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