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    Massive Vote-Buying Campaign Claimed Ahead of Vote on Putin’s Term Limits – Report

    A potentially massive online vote-buying campaign is unfolding ahead of Russia’s vote on constitutional amendments that would allow President Vladimir Putin to rule until 2036, the independent Dozhd news channel reported Wednesday.


    Russians will begin voting next Thursday, ahead of the July 1 nationwide vote, on a set of constitutional amendments that include social guarantees and a clause resetting Putin’s term limits. Early voting is already underway in some regions due to the coronavirus pandemic, while Moscow and the Nizhny Novgorod region will allow online voting to prevent the virus' spread.

    WhatsApp group admins are handing out batches of SIM cards and databases of elderly Moscow residents that can be used to register them for the online vote, according to a Dozhd journalist who obtained 25 SIM cards and part of the database.


    The WhatsApp admins offer to pay 75 rubles ($1) for each account registered on the Moscow mayor’s office website and 50 rubles ($0.70) for each vote in favor of the amendments, Dozhd reported.


    “Given that a trained operator can register up to 50 accounts per day and the campaign has been running for more than six months, [the vote-buying scheme could involve] tens of thousands of registered voting participants,” it said.


    Moscow authorities say that nearly 700,000 people have registered to vote as of Monday.


    Artyom Kostyrko, deputy chief of the Moscow mayor’s office IT department that developed the e-vote, told Dozhd that the system is secure from “illegal actions.”


    Election officials have vowed to ensure that the vote is carried out without violations and in compliance with health protocols in the midst of the Covid-19 outbreak.


    Police sought to take the journalist, Anton Bayev, to the station after midnight Thursday to obtain testimony after receiving an anonymous tip on a criminal voting-rights violation, Dozhd reported. The Moscow election commission said it contacted the police in connection with the vote-buying report.


    The officers left after Bayev provided testimony on site.


    A report by the independent election-monitoring group Golos blasted the nationwide vote for failing to protect voting rights, ensure impartiality during the campaign period and protect basic civil rights, Interfax reported.


    The NGO noted that “many citizens are ready to openly declare attempts to force them to vote” during the campaign because of the “radical” expansion of early and remote-voting opportunities amid Russia’s coronavirus outbreak.


    Golos accused state bodies and election commissions of launching a “large-scale campaign in support of adopting the amendments under the guise of public information.”

    Massive Vote-Buying Campaign Claimed Ahead of Vote on Putin’s Term Limits – Report - The Moscow Times

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    Of course he's trying to fix yet another election.

    Why would anyone think otherwise except our resident sycophants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Massive Vote-Buying Campaign
    Why they cannot have such a long-term transparent uninfluenced election as in (please no names here) with huge amassing of Rubles for the wining contender?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    our resident sycophants?
    . . . and like a dog being called . . . here he is

    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    huge amassing of Rubles
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    Again a subscription image? (BTW, very witty, isn't it?)

    (However, not so witty as the one with Onkel Xi...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Again a subscription image? (BTW, very witty, isn't it?)
    No. An image.

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    Vote on Putin’s Reforms Will ‘Wrest Soviet Rule From Uncle Sam’ – Official

    Russia’s constitutional amendments will bring back the Soviet era and end Russia being “ruled by Uncle Sam,” the governor of a southern Siberian region has said in support of the reforms.


    The amendments, which President Vladimir Putin signed into law in March and Russian voters are expected to back in a July 1 vote, reset the president’s term limits and allow him to stay in power until 2036. The reforms also include a provision that prioritizes Russian law over international treaties and other acts.

    “When the Constitution was adopted in the early 1990s, it was specified that international law prevails over Russian laws. And now we’re living under the domination of Uncle Sam,” said Alexander Burkov, governor of the Omsk region.


    “That’s it, we’re going back to the Soviet period. Russian law is prevalent now. We’ll be living under Russian laws instead of American laws,” Burkov said on local television Thursday.


    Europe’s constitutional advisory body on Thursday urged Russia to remove or reword the amendments' clause on national law superseding European and international judgments. A Russian senator who pushed through the reforms made clear Friday that Russia won’t tweak the amendments despite the European advisory body’s position.


    Urging his constituents to vote in favor of the amendments, Burkov highlighted another clause that enshrines marriage as a union between a man and a woman.


    “Think about how far-sighted it is. What’s happening in Europe now? Kids are told since elementary school that same-sex marriage is good,” he said.


    “But where will Europeans who live according to traditional family values and don’t agree with what’s drummed into their heads and forced on their children go tomorrow? ... They’ll go to Russia,” Burkov said.


    The amendments also enshrine the mention of “faith in God” and ban giving away Russian territory to other countries. Observers have linked the latter provision to Crimea, which Russia annexed from Ukraine in 2014 in a move that spurred sanctions and backlash from the international community.


    Burkov did not appear to mention an amendment allowing Putin to run for two more six-year presidential terms after his latest term expires in 2024 during the 1.5-hour broadcast.

    Vote on Putin’s Term Limits Will ‘Wrest Soviet Rule From Uncle Sam’ – Official - The Moscow Times

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    Translation: "America is bad, Vote Putin" says Putin lackey.

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    Coronavirus Frontline Doctors Ordered to Vote on Changes Allowing Putin to Stay in Power

    Russian health workers treating coronavirus patients across the country say they are being pressured by their superiors to vote on constitutional amendments that would allow President Vladimir Putin to stay in power through 2036.


    “We simply don’t have a choice,” a doctor at the Syktivkar Republic Infectious Diseases hospital in Russia’s remote northern republic of Komi told The Moscow Times on condition of anonymity. The health worker — whose region was one of the country’s first coronavirus hotspots — said staff were called in for a meeting last week where it was “made clear” that voting was “obligatory.”


    In Russia’s Far-Eastern city of Vladivostok, medical personnel at the Vladivostok's Clinical Hospital no. 4 are being urged to sign up for early voting, a text message sent to staff through WhatsApp seen by The Moscow Times shows.


    “Colleagues, on Friday, June 19, representatives of the election commission will come to the polling station for early voting. All employees should be present with their passports,” the text message said.


    Voting starts from June 25, with the official nationwide poll on July 1.


    Two medical staff in the Arkhangelsk region near the Arctic and another two in the Urals region of Chelyabinsk also said their management is putting them under pressure to vote in the upcoming referendum. All four said employees are not being told how to vote.


    Staff in hospitals in Moscow and St. Petersburg have not reported being pressured to vote.


    Human rights critics and election observers have in the past accused the Kremlin of coercing the bloated civil servant sector into voting during elections in order to increase voter turnout. A 2014 study concluded that up to 25% of employees at large state companies were affected by voter mobilization during the country’s 2011 parliamentary elections.

    On Monday, Reuters reported that the Kremlin has asked at least three major private Russian companies to distribute internal information campaigns to boost turnout in the nationwide vote on constitutional reforms.


    Russian law forbids companies from actively mobilizing employees to vote.


    The accounts from the medical staff come days after Russia’s health watchdog said that nearly 500 Russian medics have died after treating COVID-19 patients, a considerably higher number than in countries with similar overall coronavirus mortality rates.


    During a video call with medics on Saturday, Putin expressed his condolences for those who had lost their colleagues and loved ones, calling the doctors who died "true heroes." Russian cardiologist Alexei Erlikh, who has helped compile an independent list where colleagues report deaths, told AFP authorities are unlikely to draw any lessons from the high death rate. "Next time this will happen again," he said.


    A nurse at the Arkhangelsk Republic Infectious Diseases hospital said she felt “frustrated” about being told to vote after working for weeks with coronavirus patients and putting her life in danger.


    “This isn’t right. We shouldn’t be told what to do after all we have done.”


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    The vote on the constitutional changes was originally set for April 22 but pushed back due to the coronavirus. Apart from resetting presidential term limits, Russians will vote on a package of amendments that includes pledges to adjust pensions to inflation, enshrine faith in God and define marriage as a heterosexual union.


    Observers have said the state has tried to play down the fact that the vote would pave the way for Putin to rule for another 12 years.


    “There are lots of changes and it’s hardly possible to single out one,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said last week.


    The confusion over the vote was echoed by two doctors who said they did not initially understand that voting for the changes would allow Putin to stay in power until 2036.


    “I only just realized, with the help of Google, why this is all being done,” a doctor in Vladivostok said. “No wonder they are so keen for us to vote.”

    Coronavirus Frontline Doctors Ordered to Vote on Changes Allowing Putin to Stay in Power - The Moscow Times

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    I'm sure if Russia had free and open media there would be a lot more news about state employees being forced to support the dictator.

    But it doesn't, so there isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'm sure if Russia had free and open media there would be a lot more news about state employees being forced to support the dictator.

    But it doesn't, so there isn't.
    And I am sure if USA had free and open media there would be a lot of more news about the real life in Russia - unlike what we hear only from RFA and The Moscow Times and similar...

    Remembering when Saddam Hussein armies were still fighting the invading liberation army we were (kindly) informed by the "free and open media", that behind every Saddam soldier (who does not want to embrace the liberation army) is another (Saddam's) soldier with a knife at the throat in front of him...

    Surprisingly (???), after 17 years of Iraq liberation, there had to be a lot of (Saddam's) men with a knife out in the streets, so there are no Iraqi people embracing their liberators...

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    (Klondike) Look, over there! A bird! (Fails to acknowledge the vote buying and coerced voting in Russia.)

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    ^Ms. Kit: wasn't it you who said once you knew nothing about the MSM lying before the Iraq war drumming (GWB and his MelodyBoys), unfortunately being in the deep woods without news from the world?

    You were lucky that the war did not surprise you suddenly in the woods...

    Why you do not present here also once some other sources, not only the ones who hates Putin und NK? The membership here is not so stooopid (almost) to recognize by themselves what is the reality and what is propaganda...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    The membership here is not so stooopid (almost) to recognize by themselves what is the reality and what is propaganda...
    So there is no vote buying or coercion in Russia? Because Iraq?


    From another source.

    The independent Dozhd TV channel reported last week on a vote-buying scheme that saw participants paid 75 rubles (about $1.50) for each account they create on the official online voting platform, with an additional 50-ruble payment for each vote in favour of the amendments.

    Barring a miracle, Putin will soon rule Russia indefinitely. But what happens after that? - The Globe and Mail
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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    So there is no vote buying or coercion in Russia? Because Iraq?
    At least the cretin actually deflected to another country this time . . . on a recent occasion it was a Tibetan Malmut that was the cause of gulags

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    So there is no vote buying or coercion in Russia?
    One has to have really a strong stomach (an exceptional) to claim a vote buying in other (unfriendly) countries while being exulted over their own election where millions flow so "transparently"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    At least the cretin actually deflected to another country this time . . . on a recent occasion it was a Tibetan Malmut that was the cause of gulags
    It's surely a pure coincidence that we are always fed by news about bad things in other (unfriendly) countries, never anything good happening there.

    And we are never fed by bad news about "democratically" elected leaders in friendly countries, being that Ferdinand Marcos with his Imelda, Suharto, Saakashvili in Georgia, Poroshenko in Ukraine, to name just a few...

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    So there is no vote buying or coercion in Russia? Because Iraq?
    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    One has to have really a strong stomach (an exceptional) to claim a vote buying in other (unfriendly) countries while being exulted over their own election where millions flow so "transparently"...
    So, no answer as usual. Aren't you getting sick of yourself at this point? A simple question . . . and your usual deflection. Patehtic, really.





    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    And we are never fed by bad news about "democratically" elected leaders in friendly countries, being that Ferdinand Marcos with his Imelda, Suharto, Saakashvili in Georgia, Poroshenko in Ukraine, to name just a few...
    Areyou denser than previously thought? Check the news sections

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    ...they could relieve intense speculation and save unnecessary trips to polling stations by posting results days before the election...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...they could relieve intense speculation and save unnecessary trips to polling stations by posting results days before the election...

    Updated joke:

    Putin, Baldy, Boris and Macron are on a plane going to a summit when the pilot announces the plane is going down and then jumps out of the plane, leaving just the four of them, and there is only one working parachute. Of course they all lay their respective claims to it, and in the end, Putin says "Look, why don't we have a vote to see who gets it".

    Putin got five votes.

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    ^^ It would make life easier . . . also the likes of Klondyke wouldn't be confused by the whole voting thing

    ^ Nice . . .

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    For the ones who want to know what actually is about to vote for (after being "well informed" by the "recognized" MSM):

    It's a referendum with 140 amendments to be vote for or against, score of each item will decide whether the constitution will be amended with it or not.

    Of course, one of the item is that the president can be re-elected no matter how many times again. So what's the problem of the Western "community"? Do they have such problem with a long term somewhere else? (e.g. Angela Merkel, not to speak about many others)...

    Obviously a problem is that the current Russian leader brought the country from rugs to riches and not the other way as we see (please no names here).

    The current constitution has been nearly 30 years old, created during the rule of the wise man Boris Yeltsin, who was so admired by many (please no names here).

    So, among the many changes there will be some that Yeltsin would not be happy with - neither his friends - that the high position people will not be allowed to own a foreign bank account and that no land will be allowed to sell to foreigners (as Mme ex-Secretary of State once complained that it's not fair that Russia possess World's most resources...)

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    Massive Vote-Buying Campaign Claimed Ahead of Vote on Putin’s Term Limits – Report-putintitle-png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Why they cannot have such a long-term transparent uninfluenced election as in (please no names here) with huge amassing of Rubles for the wining contender?
    the sellers name is kalashnikov.

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