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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    it looks like he's been reading a lot of statues.

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    Fight against injustice?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger
    Fight against injustice?
    Yes racism is injustice, what else would you call it, and also stop being racist against gingas!

    Plus I dare you to tell my wife she is subservient. Double-dare you.

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    Pps.



    I made me own fecking sammiches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    If the statues were put up by or with the approval of established government in a civilisation which has existed continuously without revolution since that time and have existed for at least a century under what we would call modern democracy then I would say that they have established themselves as part of the peaceful civilisation that we inhabit today.

    I would say that it is not legitimate to displace them in any other way than through a democratic process.

    It is perfectly legitimate to question their continued legitimacy and campaign for their possible removal but I would say it is not legitimate or acceptable to tear them down in a riot.
    I would say it's up to the respective bodies if they can be arsed to put them up again, and if people actually want them.

    The Hamilton statue was a private donation, I doubt the people of Hamilton voted for it.

    Riots are bad. But so is teargassing a crowd of people who aren't doing anything wrong.

    You seem to want to focus on this one issue, which is rather trivial compared to the rest.

    Oh, and personally I couldn't give a flying fuck if statues celebrating racists are removed or torn down, they shouldn't be there in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You seem to want to focus on this one issue, which is rather trivial compared to the rest.
    It's what he does. He's currently busy equating all protesters to 'rioters' and thereby delegitimizing the lot. It's the 'not all cops... but all rioters' shtick.

    Something tells me he'd have no issue with this type of 'peaceful' protest:


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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    ^^ its painful with Hazza, having to explain simple sentences which he popped of the tangent with.....again.
    You presumably consider that to be a 'simple sentence' so that's an example of the problem you have, right there.

    It's 'painful' trying to make sense of your mangled crap.

    Wtf is 'popped of the tangent ' supposed to mean, for example?
    Last edited by cyrille; 25-06-2020 at 12:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    You presumably consider that to be a 'simple sentence' so that's an example of the problem you have, right there.

    It's 'painful' trying to make sense of your mangled crap.

    Wtf is 'popped of the tangent ' supposed to mean, for example?
    Oh don't worry about tooty, I put his irrelevant mumbling on ignore a long time ago.

    He has nothing useful to say.

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    Anti-racism protesters mistakenly topple statue of US anti-slavery leader Heg

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    A statue of one of America's fiercest anti-slavery activists has been decapitated and dragged into a lake after being wrongly targeted by anti-racism protesters during a night of violence in the country's Midwest.

    Key points:
    • Two monuments, including the Heg statue, were torn down by protesters in the Wisconsin capital of Madison
    • But Colonel Hans Christian Heg actively campaigned against racism and slavery


    Colonel Hans Christian Heg campaigned against slavery, fought in the Union army during the American Civil War, and even led a militia that targeted slave-catchers in Wisconsin.

    He was shot leading his regiment against Confederate troops at the Battle of Chickamauga in 1863, and died the next day.

    Anti-racism protesters mistakenly topple statue of US anti-slavery leader Heg, Charleston'''s Calhoun statue removed after 16 hours - ABC News

    Historians puzzled after statue razed
    “Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago”

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    Would of thought it would be more productive to protest about racial discrimination that the maori's encounter in their day to day lives, than some silly statue.

    Hope the Kiwis are all going to protest outside the Gallagher groups headquarters, which no doubt is a racist company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Colonel Hans Christian Heg campaigned against slavery
    BLM at its best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico
    Would of thought it would be more productive to protest about racial discrimination that the maori's encounter in their day to day lives, than some silly statue.
    "Would have..." and the two aren't mutually exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Anti-racism protesters mistakenly topple statue of US anti-slavery leader Heg

    This to

    A statue of one of America's fiercest anti-slavery activists has been decapitated and dragged into a lake after being wrongly targeted by anti-racism protesters during a night of violence in the country's Midwest.

    Key points:
    • Two monuments, including the Heg statue, were torn down by protesters in the Wisconsin capital of Madison
    • But Colonel Hans Christian Heg actively campaigned against racism and slavery


    Colonel Hans Christian Heg campaigned against slavery, fought in the Union army during the American Civil War, and even led a militia that targeted slave-catchers in Wisconsin.

    He was shot leading his regiment against Confederate troops at the Battle of Chickamauga in 1863, and died the next day.

    Anti-racism protesters mistakenly topple statue of US anti-slavery leader Heg, Charleston'''s Calhoun statue removed after 16 hours - ABC News

    Historians puzzled after statue razed


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    85 shot, 24 fatally, over Chicago’s most violent weekend of 2020

    More than half of the weekend’s victims were shot on Sunday as the city reeled from violent protests Saturday night that led to hundreds of arrests and the implementation of a curfew.

    By Sun-Times Wire Updated Jun 1, 2020, 10:09pm CDT

    Twenty-four people were killed and at least 61 others were wounded by gun violence in Chicago’s most violent weekend of the year so far, which also saw widespread protests, riots and looting throughout the city in the wake of the Minneapolis police killing of George Floyd.

    More than half of the weekend’s victims were shot on Sunday as the city reeled from violent protests Saturday night that led to hundreds of arrests and the implementation of a curfew.

    Chicago Police Supt. David Brown said Monday that of the total fatal shootings over the weekend, 17 homicides occurred on Sunday alone. The Cook County medical examiner’s office confirmed 15 for Sunday, with another three at unknown locations.

    The weekend’s toll surpasses the tally from the same weekend in 2019, when 52 people were wounded — 8 fatally — in citywide gun violence.


    Protest, yes, let’s protest, did you hear, a black man died in Minneapolis.

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    Thread: Statue in Hamilton is removed

    bowie: 'Here's an almost month old article about gun violence in Chicago...'


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I couldn't give a flying fuck if statues celebrating racists are removed or torn down
    So you approve of mob rule for society's statue retirement processes.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    if they can be arsed to put them up again, and if people actually want them
    But for reinstatement of illegally removed statues you expect due democratic processes of public consultation to be observed before any action is taken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Colonel Hans Christian Heg campaigned against slavery, fought in the Union army during the American Civil War, and even led a militia that targeted slave-catchers in Wisconsin.
    Led the Scandinavian Wisconsin Volunteer Regiment

    What the fuck people ?

    (copper prices to crash soon )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    So you approve of mob rule for society's statue retirement processes.

    But for reinstatement of illegally removed statues you expect due democratic processes of public consultation to be observed before any action is taken?
    You seem to be struggling with "personally I couldn't give a flying fuck".

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You seem to be struggling with "personally I couldn't give a flying fuck".
    It seems that you are saying you don't have any objection to mob rule determining society's statue retirement process.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    if they can be arsed to put them up again, and if people actually want them.
    But you would expect public approval to be sought by a democratic process of consultation before any illegally removed or demolished statues were to be reinstated or restored?

    To me this is revealing of the puzzling dogmatic reverence that society is now presumed to show towards left wing politics - even when the proponents are civil disrupting rioters engaged in illegal demolition of public property that they have, without any detailed argument being offered, determined on a frenzied whim that they have a subjective political objection to.

    You see it everywhere since this racism thing blew up. It is like a political contagious pandemic.

    Celebrities and public figures and public facing corporations are terrified of putting any kind of political foot wrong that would put them even a micron on the wrong side of any woko hipsters which leads to these strange double standards being applied to political behaviour.

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    ^It almost seems like the global media has an agenda to spread that contagion. Nah, that couldn't be possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    It seems that you are saying you don't have any objection to mob rule determining society's statue retirement process.



    But you would expect public approval to be sought by a democratic process of consultation before any illegally removed or demolished statues were to be reinstated or restored?

    To me this is revealing of the puzzling dogmatic reverence that society is now presumed to show towards left wing politics - even when the proponents are civil disrupting rioters engaged in illegal demolition of public property that they have, without any detailed argument being offered, determined on a frenzied whim that they have a subjective political objection to.

    You see it everywhere since this racism thing blew up. It is like a political contagious pandemic.

    Celebrities and public figures and public facing corporations are terrified of putting any kind of political foot wrong that would put them even a micron on the wrong side of any woko hipsters which leads to these strange double standards being applied to political behaviour.

    All I hear is "blah blah blah".

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    ^ Hazza put the fuker on ignore, Loops is a menace. Instead get your organ out and have a tinkle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    determining society's statue retirement process.


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