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    F.B.I. to Investigate Arrest of Black Man Who Died During Arrest

    The F.B.I. and Minnesota law enforcement authorities are investigating the arrest of a black man who died after being handcuffed and pinned to the ground by an officer’s knee, in an episode filmed by a bystander and denounced by the mayor on Tuesday.

    The arrest took place on Monday evening, the Minneapolis Police Department said in a statement, after officers responded to a call about a man suspected of forgery. The police said the man, believed to be in his 40s, was found sitting on top of a blue car and “appeared to be under the influence.”

    “He was ordered to step from his car,” the department’s statement said. “After he got out, he physically resisted officers. Officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress.”

    The statement said that officers called for an ambulance and that the man was taken to Hennepin County Medical Center, “where he died a short time later.”

    On Tuesday morning, without referring to the video recorded by a bystander, the police updated a statement, titled “Man Dies After Medical Incident During Police Interaction,” that said additional information had “been made available” and that the F.B.I. was joining the investigation.

    The bystander video that circulated widely on social media Monday night shows a white Minneapolis police officer pressing his knee into a black man’s neck during an arrest, as the man repeatedly says “I can’t breathe” and “please I can’t breathe.”

    Within minutes the man, lying face down in the street with his hands cuffed behind his back, becomes silent and motionless, the video shows; the officer continues to pin the man to the pavement with his knee.

    Bystanders plead and curse, begging the officer to stop and telling him the man’s nose is bleeding. Another officer faces the people gathered on the sidewalk. An ambulance medic arrives and, reaching under the officer’s knee, feels for a pulse on the man’s neck.

    The medic turns away, and a stretcher is wheeled over. The arrested man is then rolled onto the stretcher, loaded into an ambulance and taken away.

    The video did not show what happened before the officer pinned the man to the ground by his neck. Chief Medaria Arradondo of the Minneapolis Police said at a news conference Tuesday that he had received information the night before that he “deemed necessary to contact the special agent in charge of the Minneapolis bureau of the F.B.I.”

    He said he asked the agency to investigate, and declined to comment on what information he received.

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    The F.B.I. is conducting a federal civil rights investigation, the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension said in a statement. The state bureau also said that it was conducting its own investigation at the request of the police department, and that it would release its findings to the Hennepin County district attorney’s office.

    The name of the man will be released by the county medical examiner’s office after his family has been notified and the autopsy is completed, it said. The names of the officers would be released after interviews, it added.

    Senator Amy Klobuchar, Democrat of Minnesota, called in a statement for a “complete and thorough” investigation into the encounter, which she described as “another horrifying and gut-wrenching instance of an African-American man dying.”

    The mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey, on Tuesday described the event as “awful” and “traumatic.”

    “Being black in America should not be a death sentence. For five minutes, we watched a white officer press his knee into a black man’s neck. Five minutes,” Mr. Frey said in a statement.

    “When you hear someone calling for help, you’re supposed to help. This officer failed in the most basic, human sense,” he said. “All I keep coming back to is this: This man should not have died.”

    The police department’s statement said that no weapons were used, and that the officers’ body cameras were recording. Mr. Frey said at a news conference that he had seen the video “taken and posted by a civilian” but not the body camera footage.

    “Whatever the investigation reveals, it does not change the simple truth: He should still be with us this morning,” the mayor said. “I believe what I saw and what I saw is wrong on every level.”

    F.B.I. to Investigate Arrest of Black Man Who Died After Being Pinned by Officer - The New York Times

    The video looks damning. The guy just slowly suffocates while the officer is kneeling on his neck.

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    I saw another video today. A black guy in Central Park asked some woman to put her dog on a lead (it's compulsory), and she told him she was going to call the police:

    She warns him: "I am going to tell them an African American man is threatening my life."

    The woman, who's been identified as Amy Cooper (no relation), tells police: "There is a man, African American, he has a bicycle helmet - he is recording me and threatening me and my dog."

    Appearing to become hysterical, she pleads: "Please send the cops immediately!"
    That's the kind of thing that gets a black man killed.

    Listen to her faking fucking fear.

    Her company has suspended her, they should sack the fucking bitch. She nearly strangled her dog while she was doing it.

    These fucking Karens are getting everywhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    The video looks damning. The guy just slowly suffocates while the officer is kneeling on his neck.
    Did the black guy look like someone who may or may not have been seen in an area he wasn't supposed to be, according to some white trash . . . or dared look at a whitey . . .



    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That's the kind of thing that gets a black man killed.
    If the cops had arrived, not sure if they did, he would have been dealt with like a criminal by the cops, until the video would have surfaced.

    Ok, now - where are our purveyors of mocking Black Lives Matter or 'this isn't racism' etc etc etc

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    ...white woman fired from her job and dog taken from her; 4 white officers involved in police killing fired and (I assume) awaiting prosecution...phone cameras and internet are important weapons against white supremacists and police thuggery...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    The video did not show what happened before the officer pinned the man to the ground by his neck
    Irrelevant. The guy was cuffed face down on the pavement and was no threat to anyone. Cop with the knee deserves life without parole. Bend over white boy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Irrelevant. The guy was cuffed face down on the pavement and was no threat to anyone. Cop with the knee deserves life without parole. Bend over white boy!
    Right, the cop is not judge, jury and executioner. The man was subdued and couldn't move. The cop killed him. Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    The bystander video that circulated widely on social media Monday night shows a white Minneapolis police officer pressing his knee into a black man’s neck during an arrest, as the man repeatedly says “I can’t breathe” and “please I can’t breathe.”

    Within minutes the man, lying face down in the street with his hands cuffed behind his back, becomes silent and motionless, the video shows; the officer continues to pin the man to the pavement with his knee.
    Brutal. Absolutely brutal.

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    Only about ten years ago we had a case in Australia in which the white cop took in an aboriginal man who died and upon autopsy it was found that the deceased's liver had been ruptured.... virtually torn in half. The cop claimed he had fallen on the guy on some steps and was let off murder charges.

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    ^ Yea, the whole 'Aboriginal Deaths in Custody' issue is a nasty one as well

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    They've fired the 4 officers in the arrest.

    https://www.xxx.xxx.xx/news/2020-05-27/four-minneapolis-officers-fired-after-death-of-black-man/12289670

    US police officers fired after death of black man who pleaded for help as one knelt on his neck in Minneapolis

    Four Minneapolis police officers have been fired after one of them was filmed kneeling on the neck of an unarmed black man who later died in hospital.


    Key points:


    • The incident is under investigation by the FBI and state authorities
    • Witnesses pleaded with officers to free the man
    • He was heard calling his mother's name before his death

    The video, shot by bystanders, shows the man pleading for help as a white officer kneels on his neck.
    "Please, please, please, I can't breathe. Please, man," the man is heard telling the officer.
    The incident, which happened on Monday, is under investigation by the FBI and state law enforcement authorities.
    It has drawn comparisons to the case of Eric Garner, an unarmed black man who died in 2014 in New York after he was placed in a chokehold by police.
    Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said the decision to sack the officers involved in the arrest was "the right call", and apologised to the black community


    Four responding MPD officers involved in the death of George Floyd have been terminated.

    This is the right call.
    "Being black in America should not be a death sentence," Mr Frey wrote on Facebook.
    "For five minutes, we watched a white officer press his knee into a black man's neck. Five minutes. When you hear someone calling for help, you're supposed to help. This officer failed in the most basic, human sense."
    'Abusive, excessive and inhumane use of force'



    Police say they will carry out a full internal investigation into the death.(AP: Elizabeth Flores)The man who died was identified as George Floyd by Ben Crump, a prominent civil rights and personal injury attorney who said he had been hired by Mr Floyd's family.
    Police said he matched the description of a suspect in a forgery case at a grocery store, and that he resisted arrest.
    The video shows the officer kneeling on his neck for a period of minutes.
    He eventually stops moving, but the officer leaves his knee on his neck for several minutes more.


    People join hands and pray around a makeshift memorial at the scene of the man's death.(AP: Elizabeth Flores)The bystanders became increasingly agitated as the man pleaded with police.
    One told officers they needed to let him breathe. Another yelled at them to check the man's pulse.
    "We all watched the horrific death of George Floyd on video as witnesses begged the police officer to take him into the police car and get off his neck," Mr Crump said in a statement.
    "This abusive, excessive and inhumane use of force cost the life of a man who was being detained by the police for questioning about a non-violent charge."
    Charles McMillian, 60, of Minneapolis, said he saw police trying to get Mr Floyd into the back of the squad car, and heard him tell them he was claustrophobic.
    After having the officer's knee on his neck, Mr McMillian said, Mr Floyd started calling his mother's name, "and then he died".
    "It's sad because it didn’t have to happen," Mr McMillian said.
    'Seatbelt' or chokehold?



    The death is the latest in a series of racially charged cases in the US.(AP: Elizabeth Flores)Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo said the department would conduct a full internal investigation.
    Experts on police use of force said the officer clearly restrained the man for too long. They noted he was under control, and not fighting.
    Andrew Scott, a former police chief who now testifies as an expert witness in use-of-force cases, called Mr Floyd's death "a combination of not being trained properly or disregarding their training".
    "He couldn't move. He was telling them he couldn't breathe, and they ignored him," Mr Scott said.
    "I can't even describe it. It was difficult to watch."
    In the case of Eric Garner, the officer involved said he was using a legal manoeuvre called "the seatbelt" to restrain Mr Garner, who he said had been resisting arrest.


    The death drew comparisons to the case of Eric Garner, an unarmed black man who died in 2014 in New York.(AP: Mark Lennihan)But the medical examiner referred to it as a chokehold in the autopsy report and said it contributed to his death. Chokeholds are banned under New York police policy.
    A grand jury later decided against indicting the officers involved in Mr Garner's death, sparking protests around the country.
    In Minneapolis, kneeling on a suspect's neck is allowed under the department's use-of-force policy for officers who have received training in how to compress a neck without applying direct pressure to the airway.
    It is considered a "non-deadly force option", according to the department's policy handbook.
    A chokehold is considered a deadly force option and involves someone obstructing the airway. According to the department's use-of-force policy, officers are to use only an amount of force that would be objectively reasonable.
    The Hennepin County Attorney's Office, which would handle any prosecution of police on state charges, said in a statement that it was "shocked and saddened" by the video and pledged to handle the case fairly.
    The death came amid anger over the killing of Ahmaud Arbery, who was fatally shot in Georgia. Two white men, a father and son, have been charged with murder.
    Mr Crump also represents Mr Arbery's father.






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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Listen to her faking fucking fear.
    That bit really is cringeworthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Did the black guy look like someone who may or may not have been seen in an area
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Police said he matched the description of a suspect in a forgery case at a grocery store,
    Picked it like a dirty nose

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Picked it like a dirty nose
    Well done, you've won the internet today.


    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Did the black guy look like someone who may or may not have been seen in an area
    Isn't that why they are called 'suspects' because they are suspected of doing something?

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    according to some white trash . . . or dared look at a whitey .
    You are getting all excited over the racist angle and letting your imagination run wild again .

    The main issue I see here is police brutality.


    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Ok, now - where are our purveyors of mocking Black Lives Matter or 'this isn't racism' etc etc etc
    l'm not one for prejudicial labelling like some and am more of a proponent for 'Human Lives' matter.


    R.I.P George.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Did the black guy look like someone who may or may not have been seen in an area he wasn't supposed to be, according to some white trash . . . or dared look at a whitey . . .





    If the cops had arrived, not sure if they did, he would have been dealt with like a criminal by the cops, until the video would have surfaced.

    Ok, now - where are our purveyors of mocking Black Lives Matter or 'this isn't racism' etc etc etc
    Problem that there isn't always someone recording the event; sad that it's needed but good on the black guy for being clued in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Problem that there isn't always someone recording the event; sad that it's needed but good on the black guy for being clued in.
    Imagine he hadn't recorded it . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Well done, you've won the internet today.
    That was neither the point nor the intention. Habeas corpus backhoe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Isn't that why they are called 'suspects' because they are suspected of doing something?
    See above

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    You are getting all excited over the racist angle and letting your imagination run wild again .
    Except that I'm not excited about it, no idea why you'd think so. It is clearly a race angle there . . . again. You do realise there's a pattern, don't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    The main issue I see here is police brutality.
    Yup - with a racial bent - you have been keeping up with the thread, haven't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    You are getting all excited over the racist angle and letting your imagination run wild again .
    Well input from an obvious racist is good for balance.

    The 'excitement' and 'imagination' seem to be all in your head, though.

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    Another labelling bigot





    I've just watched the video, of George crying out whilst the kunts got his knee on his neck.

    That cop needs hanging but life in fear and torture in a State prison would be better imo.

    The other 3 have been sacked for being accomplices? Or is there more to the story?

    Rotten honkey bastards

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    Unbelievable. Where TF do US cops get their training these days? Or do they just recruit directly from the military service guys returning from phoney, illegal wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Where TF do US cops get their training these days?
    You think their behaviour is worse than in the past?

    I'd say there are just more people able to record it.

    My reaction is more 'WTF must their behaviour have been like last century?!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    My reaction is more 'WTF must their behaviour have been like last century?!'
    Well, there was segregation not so long ago . . . lynchings etc . . . definitely nothing systemic. Clearly

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    Nah, sometimes they just happened to be black.












    Well OK. All the time.


    I was thinking more 1990s...before the widespread use of the smartphone.


    Though clearly some cops are still dumb enough to think that makes no difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I was thinking more 1990s...before the widespread use of the smartphone.


    Though clearly some cops are still dumb enough to think that makes no difference.
    True . . . the smartphone - creation of the devil for some . . . and some cops are even dumber by not realising what bodycams do

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Or do they just recruit directly from the military service guys returning from phoney, illegal wars.
    Yes lots of them are ex-military, and they are hyper aggressive in many cases when responding to a crime scene. America used to have more community oriented police that actually walked a beat and in many cases lived in the area. Not the case anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Or do they just recruit directly from the military service guys returning from phoney, illegal wars.
    If the state tries to be a "world police", then what the home policemen should be like?

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