Thread: F.B.I. to Investigate Arrest of Black Man Who Died During Arrest

Originally Posted by SKkin

knees on the necks of Palestinians. Wonder why...Same standard doesn't apply there?

Wasn't it what the Pelosi and her Melody Boys kneeled for?

BTW, same standard for all? In the nowadays world? Not even in TD...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Wasn't it what the Pelosi and her Melody Boys kneeled for?

You're too dense to understand what BLM is about, aren't you. <insert known you-know-who-and-what-here>

It still isn't sinking in for some of these dumb fucking cops.

A black pastor was arrested after he called 911 alleging an assault and threats. The sheriff has apologized.
Spencer S. Hsu
June 14, 2020 at 11:58 p.m. GMT+3

A Virginia sheriff has apologized to a black pastor who was arrested this month after calling 911 for help when a white family allegedly threatened and assaulted him after trying to dump a refrigerator on his property.

Shenandoah County Sheriff Timothy Carter said in a statement Friday that he apologized to Pastor Leon K. McCray Sr. of Woodstock, Va., and that prosecutors dropped a charge against McCray for brandishing a licensed handgun in self-defense.

McCray, 61, described the incident in a June 7 sermon at his Lighthouse Church & Marketplace Ministries International in nearby Woodstock. Woodstock is the seat of Shenandoah County, about 100 miles west of Washington in the Shenandoah Valley between the Blue Ridge and Appalachian mountains.

McCray said he was visiting an apartment property he owns in Edinburg, population 1,100, when he saw a man and a woman who did not live there dragging a refrigerator to his dumpster. They grew “irate” when confronted, McCray said, and the man left and returned with three others.

McCray said the group surrounded, jostled and threatened him, “telling me that my black life and the Black Lives Matter stuff, they don’t give a darn about that stuff in this county, and they could care less and ‘We would kill you.’ ”

McCray drew a legally concealed handgun, he said, giving him time to call 911. But when sheriff’s deputies responded, he said, “I was not given the opportunity to tell what was going on.”

Instead, he was “handcuffed in front of the mob,” the members of which were yelling racial epithets and threatening him, McCray said. An officer whom McCray said he has known for more than 20 years told him he did not agree with the order but had to arrest McCray for brandishing a gun.

“All this happened on my property,” McCray said. “I said, what about the trespassing and the assault?” McCray said he was driven away while the five stood with deputies “waving at me as I go down the road. You think about how disturbing that is.”

Two sheriff’s office supervisors have been placed on unpaid administrative leave over the incident, which occurred June 1, Carter said.

“As I told Mr. McCray, if I were faced with similar circumstances, I would have probably done the same thing,” Carter said in a video and written post on Facebook. “I want the people of Shenandoah County to know that I and the sheriff’s office staff appreciate and care about the minority communities, and especially our black community, in Shenandoah County.”

Carter said Donny Salyers, 43; Dennis Salyers, 26; Farrah Salyers, 42; and Christopher Sharp, 57, were arrested and charged with felony abduction and assault by a mob and assault in a hate crime, both misdemeanors. A fifth person, Amanda Salyers, 26, was also charged with misdemeanor assault by a mob and assault in a hate crime, Carter said.

All five, of Edinburg, were held without bond, Carter said.

Attorneys for three of the Salyerses did not immediately respond to telephone and email messages Sunday afternoon, and an attorney for Farrah Salyers declined to comment.

Sharp’s appointed attorney, Bradley G. Pollock, said Sharp is a tenant of the Salyerses with his baby and the baby’s mother, and Sharp understood that they had permission to bring a refrigerator to the dumpster. Sharp said when confronted by McCray, he and Amanda Sal[at]yers, who is of no relation, returned the refrigerator to the Salyerses’ property two doors down, Pollock said. Sharp said he stayed there and “didn’t have anything further to do with anything else,” his attorney said.

McCray, a retired Alexandria and Baltimore real estate investor and 24-year Air Force master sergeant with no criminal record who has never been arrested, said deputies rushed to judgment in “disarming a black male brandishing a gun against five white individuals, despite my Second Amendment right to defend myself against five attackers that tried to take my life.”

He added, “In my mind, it was totally unacceptable; it would not be acceptable if I was white, and I believe all you know it to be true.”

Carter said Dennis Salyers and Donny Salyers were initially charged with assault and battery, and Amanda Salyers and Christopher Sharp were initially charged with trespassing, before the office obtained warrants for the more severe charges Thursday night. The investigation is ongoing, Carter said.

“Mr. McCray met with me on Wednesday, the 3rd of June, and after talking with him about the incident, it was apparent to me that the charge of brandishing was certainly not appropriate,” Carter said.

“I have apologized to Mr. McCray, and I appreciate his patience as I have worked through these matters,” Carter said, adding to the minority community in the county, who make up about 1 in 9 of its 44,000 residents, “I continue to support and recognize the importance of your constitutional rights, especially your Second Amendment right to protect yourself and your family.”

In an interview Sunday, McCray said he appreciated the sheriff’s actions and the county for “starting to move in the right direction,” but he noted his charge has not yet been formally dropped.

“When someone does wrong, those in leadership positions should right that wrong quickly, just like they would do if it were them,” McCray said. “I respect and appreciate that charges have been brought against the mob that assaulted me, as there should have been from the beginning. I just want things to change. They must change, and I won’t stop until it changes.”

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Originally Posted by panama hat

You're too dense to understand what BLM is about, aren't you.

Is it about concluding from a very small number of videos that there is an epidemic of white cops dealing death and racist vengeance to black men?

Despite the fact that there are 1000 deaths annually from police violence in the US (only 25% of which are black people and 50% white) which means this tiny number of black videos is statistically meaningless and nothing more than journalistic pornography and an exercise in confirmation bias and availability heuristic gaming of the public perception.

Originally Posted by Looper

Is it about concluding from a very small number of videos that there is an epidemic of white cops dealing death and racist vengeance to black men?

Despite the fact that there are 1000 deaths annually from police violence in the US (only 25% of which are black people and 50% white) which means this tiny number of black videos is statistically meaningless and nothing more than journalistic pornography and an exercise in confirmation bias and availability heuristic gaming of the public perception.

The only thing that is statistically meaningless is your IQ, as evidenced by your inability to understand either the statistics or the issues.

Fucking right too.

Petition circulating to replace all Tennessee confederate monuments with statues of Dolly Parton

KNOXVILLE, Tennessee — When you think of Tennessee, you think of the Vols, the Smoky Mountains, country music, and Dolly Parton.

Now a petition is working to get Dolly's likeness to more parts of the state.

Alex Parsons started a change.org petition on June 11, asking Governor Bill Lee and the Tennessee House and Senate to consider replacing confederate monuments with statues of Dolly Parton.

"Tennessee is littered with statues memorializing confederate officers," Parsons wrote in the petition. "History should not be forgotten, but we need not glamorize those who do not deserve our praise. Instead, let us honor a true Tennessee hero, Dolly Parton."

Petitioners want Dolly Parton statues to replace confederate ones | wbir.com

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The only thing that is statistically meaningless is your IQ, as evidenced by your inability to understand either the statistics or the issues.

If you have statistical evidence supporting the assertion that there really is an epidemic of racist violence in US policing I would genuinely be interested to see it.

If racism is real it needs to be stopped.

Willy has also made veiled references to the existence of such evidence but no specific details that I have seen.

The study that Sam Harris based his podcast on is the only statistical evidence I am aware of.

Authorities in Georgia ruled the death of Rayshard Brooks, the black man killed by a white police officer in Atlanta on Friday, a homicide. On Sunday, the Fulton County Medical Examiner’s Office said in a statement that Brooks was shot following a confrontation with two Atlanta police officers outside a parking lot in Atlanta.

Police Killing Of Rayshard Brooks In Atlanta A Homicide, Authorities Say

Originally Posted by Looper

If you have statistical evidence supporting the assertion that there really is an epidemic of racist violence in US policing I would genuinely be interested to see it.

This may take a while.

Originally Posted by Looper

If racism is real it needs to be stopped.

"If"?

Originally Posted by Looper

If you have statistical evidence supporting the assertion that there really is an epidemic of racist violence in US policing I would genuinely be interested to see it.

If racism is real it needs to be stopped.

Willy has also made veiled references to the existence of such evidence but no specific details that I have seen.

The study that Sam Harris based his podcast on is the only statistical evidence I am aware of.

*Bmmmmppfff!*


That was the sound of that mic dropping.

Perfect . . .

BLM- take back the Power. Your movement has been hijacked by the usual serial malcontents and coat tail surfers. It is rapidly losing it's impact- and now you have brought out the usual counter-posse' of far-right fatboys too. Take a bow.

This is about Police brutality, specifically in the US, particularly as it applies to Black people. And you are Right.

Originally Posted by sabang

This is about Police brutality, specifically in the US, particularly as it applies to Black people.

No it's about systemic racism, a worldwide issue, that effects many minorities.

Originally Posted by sabang

BLM- take back the Power. Your movement has been hijacked by the usual serial malcontents and coat tail surfers. It is rapidly losing it's impact- and now you have brought out the usual counter-posse' of far-right fatboys too. Take a bow.

BLM -- don't listen to those who represent the system / status quo telling you how you can protest acceptably against the system / status quo because they have no interest in changing either because it benefits them.

The problem is that the Peaceful Protests have devolved into violent riots, vandalism and looting. And, unfortunately, it is the violence, rioting and looting that are remembered - not the message.

Pictures redacted for size. See the pictures in the link.

Vandalism dents credibility of Black Lives Matter movement in US, World News | wionews.com

Vandalism dents credibility of Black Lives Matter movement in US
WION New York, United States Jun 04, 2020, Edited By: Palki Sharma

Since the brutal killing of George Floyd at the hands of a police officer, the protests have spiralled into riots and have now transformed into looting

The credibility of the "Black Lives Matter" movement is being shattered by the vandalism incidents taking place across the United States in the name of protests.

Here are grieving, distraught warriors for peace and justice swarming a Louis Vuitton store and running away with merchandise. It’s all part of the grieving process. I did the same when my grandma died. Very normal stuff folks. Don’t judge.

People are breaking into world famous luxury stores, smashing display cabinets, spraying graffiti on shop walls, setting the property on fire and, stealing stock worth millions of dollars across the country.

Black Lives Matter looting a shoe store in New York to get justice for whatever his name was.

Peaceful protests in New York looting Nike store with police nowhere to be seen
Fights broke out on the pavement at a Nike store in New York where everybody wanted a share of the loot.

A Rolex store in the Soho Neighborhood is looted

This Rolex showroom in the Soho neighbourhood of New York did not survive the onslaught as a small gathering quickly swelled into a force and rushed in the together and, were seen emerging with plastic handbags full of watches. The loot was complete in merely half a minute.

Fifth Avenue tonight. At a Chanel store in the city, mangled mannequins were found on the floor. Every rack, every cloth in the store was stolen and the looting was complete before the police arrived.

Apple store in Portland being looted during protest

A police car was torched in front of an Apple store in Philadelphia which was empty.

The company has issued a warning to looters with iPhones across the country that the devices which were stolen are being tracked.

Protesters in Oakland entered a Mercedes Benz store where people could be seen jumping on the cars, trying to smash the windshield. Although the high-end locking system prevented theft, major luxury retail thoroughfares in the US, from New York’s Soho to Beverly Hills’ rodeo drive to Atlanta’s Phipps Plaza - they are now covered in messages in support of "Black Lives Matter".
Many stores have been boarded up to repel attacks but, these boards have been torn down. However, not all protesters are vandals though.

While black lives matter so does the law. Justice and equality cannot be demanded by looting.

If you're not a part of the solution then you're a part of the problem...





Why do so many people have such an issue accepting that systemic racism is a real thing. It’s not like it costs them anything.

Or is it because it might force them to re-tell their 'by the boot-straps' narratives if they even so much as acknowledge the possibility that they benefited from a system geared towards them and had advantages others didn’t. It would still cost them nothing other than maybe the realization they’re not as intrinsically awesome as they thought.

In their defence, lots of them are just fucking thick.

Also, an inability to see things from another perspective is a classic symptom of a shortfall in education.

Don't overthink it.

Originally Posted by cyrille

In their defence, lots of them are just fucking thick.

Also, an inability to see things from another perspective is a classic symptom of a shortfall in education.

Don't overthink it.

My faith in humanity and eternal optimism is less and shorter each day.

Meh - you're just getting started.

One of the pluses though is being able to see so much of the upside to the current situation of the population.

How long do I have until abject cynicism and resignation?

Originally Posted by TheRealKW

...yep: that's looper...

It's not just the police it's the entire system: