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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    ^ Its a BBC that Moore needs choking on
    ...folks should decide for themselves what to choke on...

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    George Floyd had coronavirus before he died, autopsy reveals


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    A full autopsy of George Floyd has revealed he had tested positive for COVID-19 but appeared asymptomatic.

    The 20-page report released by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office today came with the family's permission.
    The summary findings classified his May 25 death as a homicide.

    The full report by Chief Medical Examiner Andrew Baker spelled out clinical details.







    George Floyd protests LIVE: Former Secretary of Defence says Trump 'tries to divide us; Floyd's son visits Minneapolis; Second Nine reporter ambushed in London; New charges for accused police

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    Looting is the price of freedom!’ Washington has conveniently forgotten its cynical advice to post-invasion Iraq

    'China, for example, which has been grappling with its own protests in the territory of Hong Kong long before the world knew the name George Floyd. Beijing has just announced it would move ahead with legislation to fight “terrorism and foreign interference” in the city state. Ironically, days later Trump said he would rank Antifa, the leftist group many blame for much of the violence that has rocked America, as a terrorist organization. So probably not the best time to lecture Beijing, right?

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    or MSDNC, you would think that the killers, terrorists, arsonists, anarchists, thugs, hoodlums, looters, ANTIFA & others, would be the nicest, kindest most wonderful people in the Whole Wide World. No, they are what they are - very bad for our Country!

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    F.B.I. to Investigate Arrest of Black Man Who Died During Arrest-ezraztjucaaops-jpg



    "US meddling in Hong Kong, however, has not been limited simply to tweets. Last year, reminiscent of events in Kiev, a US diplomat met Hong Kong activist Joshua Wong, the leader of the 2014 Umbrella Movement, as anti-government protests were heating up. It is almost frightening to imagine what the reaction from Washington would be if it had been discovered that Chinese officials were secretly meeting with members of Antifa, for example, at the height of protests in the US."




    "In April 2003 from then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld as Baghdad was suffering lawlessness and looting following the illicit US invasion of Iraq.“While no one condones looting…one can understand the pent-up feelings that may result from decades of repression and people who have had members of their family killed by that regime,” Rumsfeld remarked, with off-the-chart arrogance. “And I don't think there’s anyone … (who wouldn’t) accept it as part of the price of getting from a repressed regime to freedom.”


    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/490539-loot...eedom-cynical/
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    Oh snap!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    I think the solution is to recruit more blacks and Hispanics into their Police Force, especially in areas of high ethnic population.
    My old stomping grounds - suburb of Philadelphia PA. Population white 50% black 40% Hispanic & Asian 10%. Police force @ 80% White.

    Police Chief at town hall meeting when confronted by a black church group demanding more black cops. Police Chiefs statement - my hands are tied, I am required by law to hire the highest scores on the test. I hire numbers, not races, not names, Numbers.

    Now the town then pays for the police academy tuition for the recruit, or rookie, cops. They must pass the academy before receiving their shield.


    So, there is a bit more involved in the process than just hiring off the street. Now the township I lived in required a bachelors degree, and we paid about 25% more than Philadelphia - starting rookie pay. With overtime, the average cop with two/three years on the job with overtime was getting about six figures.

    Cop pay is public knowledge - haven't checked in a long, long time but I could call up the salaries paid to our township cops on the Township website. Name blanked out - listed by badge number or township position code. This went for all township employees from receptionist (lowest paid) to township manager (highest paid).

    So, recruiting police applicants from the minority ranks has to start with or in the minority community. You have to submit to background check, drug test, provide references, pass a physical, a physical fitness test plus get a physiological certification. I believe some also require a lie detector test. All this prior to being allowed to take the entrance examination.

    Now, this applies only to the Township I lived in. But, the point I make is it is not a simple matter of hiring more minorities. And, on those lines we do have Equal Opportunity and Affirmative Action policies in varying degrees.

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    ...^blah, blah, blah...man the bureaucratic barricades! The minorities are coming...more imaginative areas might charge fees at every turn, proof of ancestry documentation, permission letters from minority parents, blah, blah, etc...after which complacent white authorities throw up their hands and declare there's nothing they can do about it: rulez!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Population white 50% black 40% Hispanic & Asian 10%. Police force @ 80% White.
    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    we do have Equal Opportunity and Affirmative Action policies in varying degrees.
    Policies clearly in need of review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    man the bureaucratic barricade
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Policies clearly in need of review.
    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    recruiting police applicants from the minority ranks has to start with or in the minority community. You have to submit to background check, drug test, provide references, pass a physical, a physical fitness test plus get a physiological certification. I believe some also require a lie detector test. All this prior to being allowed to take the entrance examination.
    One would imagine some "minority groups, Ameristan/Chinese and Asians for example, would be the ideal policeman/woman/police x 174 other genders.

    Highly intelligent, combat skills, obedient, paper reference creation, regurgitating acceptable answers ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    One would imagine some "minority groups, Ameristan/Chinese and Asians for example, would be the ideal policeman
    One of the cops charged is Asian . . . please do pay attention

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    It's really outrageous, that the current govt has not eliminated the huge social and racial inequities... (that has lasted over 200 years)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Ameristan/Chinese and Asians for example
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Highly intelligent, combat skills, obedient, paper reference creation, regurgitating acceptable answers ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    It's really outrageous, that the current govt has not eliminated the huge social and racial inequities... (that has lasted over 200 years)



    Since you apparently haven't noticed, this is actually about murdering or not murdering citizens.

    Nobody is saying that this started with Trump, either. His reaction to it has just been utterly abysmal.

    Still at least your post made sense which is something of a triumph, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    My old stomping grounds - suburb of Philadelphia PA. Population white 50% black 40% Hispanic & Asian 10%. Police force @ 80% White.

    Police Chief at town hall meeting when confronted by a black church group demanding more black cops. Police Chiefs statement - my hands are tied, I am required by law to hire the highest scores on the test. I hire numbers, not races, not names, Numbers.

    Now the town then pays for the police academy tuition for the recruit, or rookie, cops. They must pass the academy before receiving their shield.


    So, there is a bit more involved in the process than just hiring off the street. Now the township I lived in required a bachelors degree, and we paid about 25% more than Philadelphia - starting rookie pay. With overtime, the average cop with two/three years on the job with overtime was getting about six figures.

    Cop pay is public knowledge - haven't checked in a long, long time but I could call up the salaries paid to our township cops on the Township website. Name blanked out - listed by badge number or township position code. This went for all township employees from receptionist (lowest paid) to township manager (highest paid).

    So, recruiting police applicants from the minority ranks has to start with or in the minority community. You have to submit to background check, drug test, provide references, pass a physical, a physical fitness test plus get a physiological certification. I believe some also require a lie detector test. All this prior to being allowed to take the entrance examination.

    Now, this applies only to the Township I lived in. But, the point I make is it is not a simple matter of hiring more minorities. And, on those lines we do have Equal Opportunity and Affirmative Action policies in varying degrees.
    More obstructive horseshit.

    Much of the issues relate to white cops mishandling things like random traffic stops, in which blacks are the disproportionate target (have you noticed this word disproportionate yet?) and the the officers involved escalate things unnecessarily. Don't tell me you need a bachelors degree to do a traffic stop.

    Create a new category for these (community officers or something) and hire some minorities to take care of these kind of things. I bet 9 times out of ten, the biggest problem will come from whining Karens and their male equivalent who are breaking traffic laws and normally get away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    It's really outrageous, that the current govt has not eliminated the huge social and racial inequities... (that has lasted over 200 years)
    The U.S. will ALWAYS have huge social inequities and therefore racial problems. The answer lies within the last sentence. What the U.S. needs is more socialism. But try to explain that to a U.S. citizens. There is a good chance that you will get shot no matter if you are black or white.
    Americans are too dumb to understand what socialism is, and the rich have no interest of explaining it to them. Or should I say share their wealth

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Americans are too dumb to understand what socialism is
    Umm...your lot have had their struggles with that too, no?

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    It has always held that the one who has the power - or gun or money - is always right, unlike the one who does not have... (on a national and international level)

    Should it be changed now?

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    Another police officer kneeling on the neck of a protester, in a very similar position to the one that killed George Floyd.

    Cop Kneels On Protester's Neck Until Another Cop Physically Removes It

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    (Did they already forget their cousins in HK?)

    TENSION BOILS OVER Ugly clashes outside No10 as barriers hurled after day of peaceful protest by Black Lives Matter activists (video)

    UGLY clashes broke out outside No10 Downing Street last night after a day of peaceful protests over the death of George Floyd by Black Lives Matter campaigners.

    Around 15,000 people joined a Black Lives Matter rally in central London yesterday with police 'taking a knee' in front of calm crowds who were moved to take to the streets following the unarmed black man's death in Minneapolis, US.

    Ugly clashes outside No10 as barriers hurled after day of peaceful protest by Black Lives Matter activists – The Sun

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    ^ ^That's about a week old mate

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    That's about the perfect encapsulation right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    That's about the perfect encapsulation right there.
    On the left you have the protesters on the right you have Bowie and his ilk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Bowie and his ilk
    AKA. The real victims.

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    21 excruciating seconds | Reporter asks Trudeau about Trump’s response to riots


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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    On the left you have the protesters on the right you have Bowie and his ilk.
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    The real victims.
    Ahh... not at all, at this point in time I'm just a spectator with no horse in the race, just a deep appreciation of the timing of my expatriation...

    I leave snubby with the most onerous task of picking up the pieces, cleaning up the mess and attempting to restore order. Good Luck my friend you will need it. I wish you well.

    May you find the future both challenging and prosperous.

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