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    Bloody hell it's all kicking off over there now. Stay safe Jeff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Perhaps, a particular segment of the population are using any justification to rebel/revolt.
    ...perhaps a particular segment of the population has had 300 years of justification for rebellion/revolution...

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    At least he'll be able to placate any rebels with a dobbie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...perhaps a particular segment of the population has had 300 years of justification for rebellion/revolution...

    Historically, a decent portion of the world - forced upon by imaginary empire, one that you [et al] built.
    In your name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    what shape have such provocateurs and [planted] agitators taken
    Well, saw the news blurb on CNN with the mayor of Minneapolis speaking, not verbatim but close to the gist of what he said - he said the agitators are not for Minneapolis, residents of Minneapolis would not do harm to their own city. The agitators hide behind the residents of Minneapolis while they loot, vandalize and destroy the city. They come to the front of the line and throw the brick or molotov cocktail then run behind the crowd and hide.

    He went on to say that the out-of-state agitators are being tracked down and will be caught. Then something along the lines of monitoring the "Dark Web" where they come from. Also went on to tell the residents if you know where they (the agitators) are staying, report their location to the police so we can arrest them and bring this to an end.

    It was a fairly emotional speech he gave. It was obvious he was both very tired and quite distraught with the situation. His concluding statement was to tell people to stay at home as venturing out is only helping the agitators commit their crimes.

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    Nearly 100% white folks here.


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    Hopefully, the voice of the "peaceful" protesters will be heard - similarly as it is required from the "peaceful" protesters anywhere else....

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    My city Seattle is now under a curfew. The mayor announced it as of 5pm today until 5am. It will continue tomorrow. Lots of rioting and looting the downtown area and the police have locked the area down there off. Thugs threw Molotov cocktails on several vehicles including two police cars. It is a mess here right now.

    National guard is on the way.

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    Pentagon puts elite military police units on standby as Donald Trump prepares to deploy the Army to the streets to quash domestic unrest for the first time since LA riots in 1992

    Pentagon tells active-duty military police to be ready to deploy to Minneapolis

    Trump communicated orders verbally to Defense Secretary Mark Esper

    Minneapolis has seen looting and unrest since death of George Floyd, 46

    Cop was filmed pinning Floyd to the ground with his knee on his neck

    Insurrection Act of 1807 gives Trump authority to use army for domestic unrest

    Last time military was sent to put down riot was in Los Angeles in 1992

    Rioting erupted in LA in wake of acquittal of officers who beat Rodney King

    As unrest spread across dozens of American cities on Friday, the Pentagon took the rare step of ordering the Army to put several active-duty US military police units on the ready to deploy to Minneapolis, where the police killing of George Floyd sparked the widespread protests.

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    Up the revolution.....

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    Black Lives Matter. I wonder how many more Downtown street parties it will take before The Man listens, and acts upon it.
    P'ssst- if you wanna get the ear of bought and paid for US politicians, not just platitudes- hit Big business where it hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Up the revolution.....
    The FBI commenting on the F.B.I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Black Lives Matter. I wonder how many more Downtown street parties it will take before The Man listens, and acts upon it.
    P'ssst- if you wanna get the ear of bought and paid for US politicians, not just platitudes- hit Big business where it hurts.
    Exactly.
    Live one's protest.


    .....and still, most don't get it.

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    And the line between protestors and looters is blurred . . . what a shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    LA riots in 1992
    Was Rodney then. George this time.

    เผาทารกเผา

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    Dear riots, please only with masks and distancing...

    Minneapolis mayor urges protesters to wear masks and practice social distancing

    The mayor of Minneapolis told individuals protesting that their anger is “understandable” and “right" but urged them to make sure they are wearing masks and practicing social distancing during their demonstrations.

    “The City encourages everyone to exercise caution to stay safe while participating in demonstrations, including wearing masks and physical distancing as much as possible to prevent the spread of COVID-19,” Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey’s office wrote in a statement addressed to individuals who took to the streets following the death of George Floyd while in police custody. “The City has made hundreds of masks available to protesters this week.”

    Minneapolis mayor urges protesters to wear masks and practice social distancing

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    Cornel West: America Is A Failed Social Experiment, Neoliberal Wing Of Democratic Party Must Be Fought (video)

    On Date May 29, 2020

    Dr. Cornel West said on Friday we are witnessing the failed social experiment that is the United States of America in the protests and riots that have followed the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police. West told CNN host Anderson Cooper that what is going on is rebellion to a failed capitalist economy that does not protect the people. West, a professor, denounced the neoliberal wing of the Democratic party that is all about "black faces in high places" but not actual change. The professor remarked even those black faces often lose legitimacy because they ingriatiate themselves into the establishment neo-liberal Democratic party.

    "I think we are witnessing America as a failed social experiment," West said. "What I mean by that is that the history of black people for over 200 and some years in America has been looking at America's failure, its capitalist economy could not generate and deliver in such a way people can live lives of decency. The nation-state, it's criminal justice system, it's legal system could not generate protection of rights and liberties."

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    Minneapolis Police Department releases transcript of 911 call that led to George Floyd's death

    It shouldn't have ended the way it did

    The Minneapolis Police Department released the transcript of the call to police that resulted in Floyd George's death, revealing that it was a relatively routine call that resulted in the use of deadly force against an already handcuffed and restrained man.

    Floyd was accused of attempting to pay for something at the Cup Foods deli with a counterfeit $20 bill. The deli owner said he instructed one of his employees to notify police, which he said was normal protocol in that situation. Floyd did not flee the scene, and was sitting in his car when officers arrived.

    The caller tells the police operator that Floyd bought some cigarettes with a fake $20, and that the employees noticed the bill was fake before Floyd left, according to the transcript.

    "We tell them to give us their phone, put their (inaudible) thing back and everything and he was also drunk and everything and return to give us our cigarettes back and so he can, so he can go home but he doesn't want to do that, and he's sitting on his car cause he is awfully drunk and he's not in control of himself," the caller says to the operator, CNN reported.

    The operator gets the details about Floyd's car and his physical description. The transcript notes a sigh from the operator after the caller says, "It's a black guy." The caller asks how the operator's day is going, to which the operator responds, "Not too bad," before getting the caller's name and phone number, and instructing him to call back if Floyd leaves before officers get there. The call ends.

    Police arrived shortly after, removing Floyd from his car and handcuffing him without any apparent problems. There is still a gap in available footage of the incident, so it's unknown how an apparently uneventful arrest led to Floyd being held down on his stomach by three officers, with one of them driving his knee into Floyd's neck for more than seven minutes.

    Floyd had no pulse and was unresponsive by the time first responders got to the scene. They attempted to revive him in the ambulance and at the hospital, but his condition never improved and he was pronounced dead.

    Read the full 911 call transcript below, courtesy of CNN:

    Operator: 911 what's the address of the emergency?

    Caller: This is ah 3759 Chicago Ave.

    Operator: How can I help you?

    Caller: Um someone comes our store and give us fake bills and we realize it before he left the store, and we ran back outside, they was sitting on their car. We tell them to give us their phone, put their (inaudible) thing back and everything and he was also drunk and everything and return to give us our cigarettes back and so he can, so he can go home but he doesn't want to do that, and he's sitting on his car cause he is awfully drunk and he's not in control of himself.

    Operator: Okay, what type of vehicle does he have?

    Caller: And .... um he's got a vehicle that is ah ... one second let me see if I can see the license. The driver license is BRJ026.

    Operator: Okay, what color is it?

    Caller: It's a blue color. It's a blue van.

    Operator: Blue van?

    Caller: Yes, van.

    Operator: Alright blue van, gotcha. Is it out front or is it on 38th St.?

    Caller: Ah it's on 38th St.

    Operator: On 38th St. So, this guy gave a counterfeit bill, has your cigarettes, and he's under the influence of something?

    Caller: Something like that, yes. He is not acting right.

    Operator: What's he look like, what race?

    Caller: Um, he's a tall guy. He's like tall and bald, about like 6 ... 6 1/2, and she's not acting right so and she started to go, drive the car.

    Operator: Okay so, female or a male?

    Caller: Um...

    Operator: Is it a girl or a boy?

    Caller: (Talking to somebody else) — he's asking (inaudible) one second. Hello?

    Operator: Is it a girl or a boy that did this?

    Caller: It is a man.

    Operator: Okay. Is he white, black, Native, Hispanic, Asian?

    Caller: Something like that.

    Operator: Which one? White, black, Native, Hispanic, Asian?

    Caller: No, he's a black guy.

    Operator: Alright (sigh).

    Caller: How is your day going?

    Operator: Not too bad.

    Caller: Had a long day, huh?

    Operator: What's your name?

    Caller: My name is (deleted)

    Operator: Alright, a phone number for you?

    Caller: (Deleted)

    Operator: Alright, I've got help on the way. If that vehicle or that person leaves before we get there, just give us a call back, otherwise we'll have squads out there shortly, okay?
    Minneapolis Police Department releases transcript of 911 call that led to George Floyd's death - TAthasTA

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    the neoliberal wing of the Democratic party
    Huh? Neo-liberalism is associated with laissz-faire economics, Reganism, free-markets and all that good stuff -- i.e. pretty much the policy manual of the GOP.

    Is it the "liberal" part which confuses people.

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    For someone who says he doesn't care about US politics Klondyke is certainly quite vocal about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Huh? Neo-liberalism is associated with laissz-faire economics, Reganism, free-markets and all that good stuff -- i.e. pretty much the policy manual of the GOP.
    It best suits the quackbots in the Libertarian sector of the right

    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Is it the "liberal" part which confuses people.
    Like the words 'social' and 'socialism'

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    Remember Socal?

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    Klondyke is socal?

    Sweet black baby Jesus . . . it is tiresome

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Huh? Neo-liberalism is associated with laissz-faire economics, Reganism, free-markets and all that good stuff -- i.e. pretty much the policy manual of the GOP.

    Is it the "liberal" part which confuses people.

    If I'm not mistaken, the "Liberal" code and namesake derives from the old defined American Libertarian ideals [of the elite Barry Goldwater/William Buckley/Lyndon LaRouche concepts] which are more subtly Fascists in design and make up than anything that might want to promote itself as "New Liberal"......whatever the fuck that is.

    Twisted semantics are easily fashioned, and accepted, into the linguistic lexicon.

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    Old fart's like me should recognize. Same, same but different.

    "They're rioting in africa
    they're starving in spain
    there's hurricanes in florida
    and texas needs rain

    the whole world is festering with unhappy souls
    the french hate the germans the germans hate the poles
    Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch
    And i don't like anybody very much

    But we can be thankful and tranquil and proud
    That Man's been endowed with the mushroom shaped cloud
    And we know for certain that some lovely day
    Some one will set the spark off and we will all be blown away

    They're rioting in Africa
    There's strife in Iran
    What nature doesn't do to us
    Will be done by our fellow man!"
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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