Thread: F.B.I. to Investigate Arrest of Black Man Who Died During Arrest

Sometimes more is NOT less.
Sometimes it's just too fing much to be bothered with.

Originally Posted by OhOh

For This to Slip Would Be the ‘End of Empire’

I preferred this young lady who summed it up well:

Thanks exceptional person.

This whole unpleasant situation seems to be based on a misplaced framing of the problem I would say.

This is a story primarily about police brutality, not racism.

Is there any stats to show that blacks get harsher policing than whites?

Taking into account the fact that, due to unfortunate socioeconomic circumstances beyond their control, blacks do commit more crime than whites.

The socioeconomic problem is worth addressing but is there a statistically demonstrable issue with police violence being disproportionate w.r.t. race after the socioeconomic ethnic representation skew is factored in?

Originally Posted by Looper

Is there any stats to show that blacks get harsher policing than whites?

Yes. Lots of them. You must have your head up your arse.

Originally Posted by Looper

F.B.I. to Investigate Arrest of Black Man Who Died During Arrest

Jumping back to square 1. Would be a twist if FBI finds that Derek the killer was not a racist but just a bully who would have done same if twas a white guy under his knee.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Actually, without the cameras held in hands of everybody, the police abuses had not been so apparent, hence, no such an outrage of the population. It started in L.A. with King.
Ban the cameras...

And Harry wouldn't misunderstand so much, if it wasn't for.................. Gutenberg

Fuck you, Johann


Good point,Klondike

They do have to be more carefull today

Although the Supreme Court has given the police a free pass if they feel"scared or threatened".( I heard )

Scary, eh ?

Originally Posted by Looper

Is there any stats to show that blacks get harsher policing than whites?

You're serious?

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Originally Posted by panama hat

You're serious?

Should definitely stick to the shag threads.

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Ku Klux Klan Dude: Hold my beer...

Originally Posted by panama hat

You're serious?

Of course there is frequent anecdotal evidence since every time there is an incident involving a black man and police it gets politically driven news coverage.

But is there statistical evidence showing that these highly publicised individual incidents combine to reflect a genuinely racially biased skew in excessive police brutality?

Originally Posted by Looper

But is there statistical evidence showing that these incidents combine to reflect a genuinely racially biased skew in excessive police brutality?

Yes..

RESEARCH ARTICLE


Risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States by age, race–ethnicity, and sex

Abstract


We use data on police-involved deaths to estimate how the risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States varies across social groups. We estimate the lifetime and age-specific risks of being killed by police by race and sex. We also provide estimates of the proportion of all deaths accounted for by police use of force. We find that African American men and women, American Indian/Alaska Native men and women, and Latino men face higher lifetime risk of being killed by police than do their white peers. We find that Latina women and Asian/Pacific Islander men and women face lower risk of being killed by police than do their white peers. Risk is highest for black men, who (at current levels of risk) face about a 1 in 1,000 chance of being killed by police over the life course. The average lifetime odds of being killed by police are about 1 in 2,000 for men and about 1 in 33,000 for women. Risk peaks between the ages of 20 y and 35 y for all groups. For young men of color, police use of force is among the leading causes of death.

MORE Risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States by age, race–ethnicity, and sex | PNAS

Of course the 'rote' reply to that would be that more black people being shot may not in itself indicate racial bias on the part of the police.

Nobody would seriously say that the stats on men vs women indicate sexism, after all.

Which might be why ant didn't bother with a longer reply.

Originally Posted by Looper

Is there any stats to show that blacks get harsher policing than whites?

jesus fvcking wept.

^^I even extended it by a full stop to take into account the five character minimum.

Originally Posted by Looper

But is there statistical evidence showing that these highly publicised individual incidents combine to reflect a genuinely racially biased skew in excessive police brutality?

Not the first time you've asked . . . and you're getting the same responses.

Originally Posted by Looper

Of course there is frequent anecdotal evidence since every time there is an incident involving a black man and police it gets politically driven news coverage.

But is there statistical evidence showing that these highly publicised individual incidents combine to reflect a genuinely racially biased skew in excessive police brutality?

Asked and answered.

Stop being so fucking obtuse.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Of course the 'rote' reply to that would be that more black people being shot may not in itself indicate racial bias on the part of the police.

Nobody would seriously say that the stats on men vs women indicate sexism, after all.

Which might be why ant didn't bother with a longer reply.

The key one is number of unarmed people killed by police.

There is no justification for shooting an unarmed man.

Yet the rate at which unarmed blacks are killed by police is significantly higher than it is for whites, like 2.5 times higher.

Blacks don't riot if a black man dies in a shootout with police.

It's the executions that get their goat (and a lot of other peoples).

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^^I even extended it by a full stop to take into account the five character minimum.

I can't say I've noticed, sir.....

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yet the rate at which unarmed blacks are killed by police is significantly higher than it is for whites, like 2.5 times higher.

Empirically speaking it seems that white mass murderers (e.g. the Dylan Roofs, Robert Bowers, and James Holmes's of this world) who don't top themselves have a significantly higher probability of surviving an arrest than an unarmed Black man does a routine traffic stop.

Originally Posted by Looper

Is there any stats to show that blacks get harsher policing than whites?

Are you taking the piss?

Phaaaaaaark me.