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    What Fox News said:

    Minneapolis City Council vows to 'dismantle' police department: report
    Minneapolis City Council vows to '''dismantle''' police department: report | Fox News

    What was actually said:

    Our city needs a public safety capacity that doesn’t fear our residents. That doesn’t need a gun at a community meeting. That considers itself part of our community. That doesn’t resort quickly to pepper spray when people are understandably angry. That doesn’t murder black people.

    We can reimagine what public safety means, what skills we recruit for, and what tools we do and do not need. We can play a role in combating the systems of white supremacy in public safety that the death of black and brown lives has laid bare. We can invest in cultural competency and mental health training, de-escalation and conflict resolution.

    We can send a city response that that is appropriate to each situation and makes it better. We can resolve confusion over a $20 grocery transaction without drawing a weapon or pulling out handcuffs.


    Mostly—and this might be the hardest part to envision and make real—we need to be more deeply engaged with each other. We need to build the relationship networks, skills, and capacity in our communities to support each other in resolving conflicts and keeping each other safe before things escalate dangerously. Our isolation from each other has required us to outsource the management of social interactions. We have to get relational.


    Now is the time for us to put all of these ideas into practice, and we know that community members have a lot more. The whole world is watching. We can declare policing as we know it a thing of the past, and create a compassionate, non-violent future.
    I'''m a Minneapolis City Council Member. We Must Disband the Police—Here'''s What Could Come Next | Time

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    I imagine BOC will be in fits of rage about this. (Check out the last line)


    Washington DC mayor calls on Trump to pull troops and federal forces out of city | US news | The Guardian


    Washington DC mayor calls on Trump to pull troops and federal forces out of city
    Muriel Bowser objects to unidentified forces – from Green Berets to prison guards – operating outside police chain of command




    Washington’s mayor has called on Donald Trump to withdraw thousands of national guard soldiers and federal law enforcement officers from the capital, complaining about unidentified units operating outside the police chain of command.




    On Friday morning, the 200-strong Utah national guard contingent were packing their bags and preparing to leave their hotel by noon. Mike Lee, a Republican senator from the state, said they, and hundreds of other national guard troops, were being kicked out of their hotels by the Washington mayor, Muriel Bowser. There was no immediate response to a request for comment from Bowser’s office.


    Lee’s office said it was unclear where the Utah troops, who include Green Berets, would go, but they would not be leaving Washington.


    “Lodging and accommodations are still up in the air for this evening,” a spokeswoman said.


    On Trump’s order, about 4,500 national guard troops from around the country were flown to Washington early this week, and a wide assortment of special units from the Bureau of Prisons, the Drug Enforcement Agency, the FBI and the US Marshal’s Service.


    In total, 7,600 soldiers and officers were deployed in Washington, including 1,700 active duty troops in reserve in bases around the capital, according to Bloomberg News.


    Several hundred of those active duty soldiers, including a unit from the 82nd Airborne Division, have been ordered to return to their home bases. But the combined military and federal agency deployment is still more than the US force currently in Iraq.


    Several of those units – including military police, United States park police and Secret Service – were involved in violent scenes on Tuesday when officers fired teargas and rubber bullets to clear peaceful protesters from outside the White House.


    Since then, groups of uniformed officers in helmets and body armour – often without identifying insignia – have appeared in Washington, expanding a security perimeter around the White House into the city’s commercial district – and prompting questions about who was in control of the streets and the public right of way.


    When reporters asked one group about their affiliation, an officer replied “DoJ”, the Department of Justice, but would not be more specific. All the federal law enforcement agencies deployed in Washington are reporting to the attorney general, William Barr, who has been the architect of the heavy military presence and who told state governors on Monday: “Law enforcement response is not going to work unless we dominate the streets.”


    In a letter to the president, Mayor Bowser, said: “I continue to be concerned that unidentified federal personnel patrolling the streets of Washington DC pose both safety and national security risks.


    “Our police and incident command have clear channels of communication and roles, and it is important to note that these additional unidentified units are operating outside of established chains of command,” Bowser wrote. “This multiplicity of forces can breed dangerous confusion.”




    The presence of elite units such as the Green Berets has raised concern because of the symbolism of sending combat troops, and the unsuitability of their training for responding to protests.


    Other units sent on to Washington streets included the FBI’s hostage rescue team and prison riot control officers.


    The Bureau of Prisons director, Michael Carvajal, argued that federal prison guards were “often called upon to assist during crisis situations within our communities”.


    But Deborah Golden, a Washington lawyer specialising in prisoners’ rights said that correctional officers are trained in a completely different environment from public demonstrations. Protests are restricted in prisons and officers are entitled to use much greater force.


    Golden said on Twitter: “They aren’t trained for the job they’ve been put in. And it’s a set up for disaster.”


    On Thursday evening, the federal presence was much lighter than the previous two days, but there were still national guard armoured patrol vehicles parked every few blocks of the commercial district.


    An 8ft metal fence has been erected around the White House grounds, held in place by concrete barriers.


    With permission from the city, volunteers paint ‘Black Lives Matter’ on 16th St across from the White House on Friday. Photograph: Jim Lo Scalzo/EPA
    Groups of unarmed DC national guard and air national guard were present around the Lincoln Memorial, but not the massed phalanx on the monument’s steps that had caused alarm on Wednesday.


    The Washington Post reported on Friday that the Pentagon had ordered to national guard units not to carry firearms, a decision made without consulting the White House. The president had wanted the soldiers to carry guns, in a show of force.


    In her letter, Bowser pointed out that the Washington metropolitan police had not carried out a single arrest at the demonstrations since Wednesday night, and she was ending the state of emergency in the district.


    “Therefore I’m requesting that you withdraw all extraordinary federal law enforcement and military presence from Washington DC,” the mayor told Trump.


    The mayor underlined her defiance of the president by giving permission for the words “Black Lives Matter” to be painted in giant yellow letters on the road leading to the White House. The painting began in the early hours of Friday morning and was finished before noon.


    She told journalists the last block of 16th St before the White House, would officially be renamed “Black Lives Matter Plaza”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post






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    That is fucking disgraceful.

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    Check out these assholes. I wonder why the cops are hard on the African Americans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Check out these assholes. I wonder why the cops are hard on the African Americans.
    Because they like to generalise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Because they like to generalise?
    What do they base their generalisations on I wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    What do they base their generalizations on I wonder.
    You base it on an inability to distinguish

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    There are 30-odd million people with no income, and the blacks have been hit disproportionately harder (baldy was bragging about unemployment falling yesterday, when it has not fallen for African Americans).

    TBH I am not surprised either they or white folk are nicking stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    What do they base their generalizations on I wonder.
    Prejudices and bigotry.

    The looters are a small part of the protesters and an even smaller, tiny and insignificant, part of black people as a whole.

    If they're to be held as representatives for all black people then the slack-jawed sister-fucking inbred Billy Bob yokel racist muthuafuckas are for all whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    then the slack-jawed sister-fucking inbred Billy Bob yokel racist muthuafuckas are for all whites.
    As a non believer in Original Sin, I must assume, that even Billy Bob is a product of the country he is born in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    If they're to be held as representatives for all black people then the slack-jawed sister-fucking inbred Billy Bob yokel racist muthuafuckas are for all whites.
    When you say "whites", you mean trumpanzees, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge
    Billy Bob is a product of the country he is born in.
    ...and probably a relationship between close relatives.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    When you say "whites", you mean trumpanzees, right?
    Pretty much. Used interchangeably.

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    'Des Moines is not immune to this': Iowa protesters march for racial justice — and get results


    After a week of demonstrations led by black activists, the all-white Des Moines City Council is planning a vote on a ban of racial profiling by police.

    '''Des Moines is not immune to this''': Iowa protesters march for racial justice — and get results

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    Not that I would be in favor of riots, however, is there any known case that a peaceful protests had changed anything? Any "peaceful" revolution?
    How many millions marched in London streets "welcoming" GWB, anything had been changed on the Iraq war?

    But perhaps now, after these days? When I heard Joe Biden few days ago - incidentally live - speaking his emotional speech I was so touched and could not hold my tears... So, I was unable to count how many times he mentioned MLK jr....

    Pity, that in his some 50 years of service for the American people he was not given the chance to make for them more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Not that I would be in favor of riots, however, is a peaceful protests had changed anything? Any "peaceful" revolution? How many millions marched in London streets "welcoming" GWB, anything had been changed on the Iraq war? But perhaps now, after these days?
    Well, can't be certain of any real change brought about by a "Peaceful Protest" However, once the protests turn violent they keep the police, jails and the courts busy. Many fines are issued. On the basis of looting many TV's distributed and liquor cabinets filled, not to mention a whole slew of insurance claims are filed.

    So far this peaceful protest has garnered, at a minimum, the following:

    WIKIPEDIA "At least twelve major cities declared a curfew on the evening of May 30, and as of June 2, governors in 24 states and Washington, D.C, had called in the National Guard, with over 17,000 troops activated due to the mass unrest. From the beginning of the protests to June 3, at least 11,000 people had been arrested, including all four police officers responsible for the arrest resulting in the death of George Floyd."

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    After some 11-12 days of the dissenting/revolutionary-like protest, one might get the feeling that the overall ideal has morphed into general discontented type of rebellion.

    Seems to be long overdue.
    Yet, nothing real or reformed will come of it, unfortunately.

    As a collective, they might practice the art of living one's protest -

    Wish the good American people were just as passionate towards the obscene military/imperial build up the world over.
    After all, it's in their name and activities present themselves to continue to prop up their seemingly fanciful existence.

    Never mind - most are oblivious to such things and certainly don't see the association with their general domestic suppression, raison d'etre and noble causes.

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    Buffalo police riot squad quit to back officers who shoved man

    An entire tactical unit of a US police department has quit after two officers accused of brutality were placed on unpaid leave, reports local media.

    In a video that went viral on Thursday, officers in the city of Buffalo, New York, were seen shoving an elderly man to the ground.

    The 75-year-old was seriously injured, and taken to hospital.

    All 57 officers in the riot squad have now reportedly resigned in protest at their two colleagues' suspension.

    According to the Buffalo News, the members have stepped down from the Emergency Response Team, but not the police department itself.


    John Evans, president of the local police union, told the newspaper: "Our position is these officers were simply following orders from Deputy Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia to clear the square.

    "It doesn't specify clear the square of men, 50 and under or 15 to 40. They were simply doing their job. I don't know how much contact was made. He did slip in my estimation. He fell backwards."

    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said on Friday the two officers should be fired, and called for the incident to be investigated for "possible criminal charges".

    In a statement, Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown said: "We can confirm that contingency plans are in place to maintain police services and ensure public safety within our community."

    He added that Buffalo police are continuing to work with other law enforcement agencies.

    The officers were enforcing a curfew as a result of protests that have spread nationwide since the death in Minneapolis last month of an unarmed black man, George Floyd, after a policeman knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes.

    What does the Buffalo video show?

    The man is seen approaching a group of riot police as they advance.

    Two of the officers appear to push the 75-year-old, causing him to fall backwards and hit his head.

    An initial statement from Buffalo Police Department said the man had "tripped" and fallen during a "skirmish involving protesters".

    Police spokesman Jeff Rinaldo later attributed the statement to officers not directly involved in the incident.


    Who is the elderly man?

    His name is Martin Gugino, and authorities said he was taken to hospital, where he was in a stable but serious condition on Friday.

    Mr Gugino is a longtime social justice activist in Buffalo, according to advocacy group Push (People United for Sustainable Housing).

    He "has been a tireless fighter against injustice of all types for many years in our city both with Push and other grassroots organisations," they said in a statement, condemning police for his treatment.

    Buffalo police riot squad quit to back officers who shoved man - BBC News

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    John Evans, president of the local police union, told the newspaper: "Our position is these officers were simply following orders"
    Damn, that seems familiar. Can anyone remind me where I might have heard that before?


    F.B.I. to Investigate Arrest of Black Man Who Died During Arrest-nuremberg-trial-1521064123-jpg

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    Pity also that at any "Peaceful revolutions" when a democracy in an oversea country is to be installed, dictators removed, regime changed - the rioting always have occurred, lost lives and damaged cities, also treasures of irreplaceable values are looted and disappearing "somewhere"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    In a statement, Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown said: "We can confirm that contingency plans are in place to maintain police services and ensure public safety within our community." He added that Buffalo police are continuing to work with other law enforcement agencies.
    Aren't you glad you do not reside in Buffalo...

    Buffalo, NY Crime Rates and Statistics - NeighborhoodScout
    With a crime rate of 51 per one thousand residents, Buffalo has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes...

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    ^There is surely one positive factor thanks to these protests (beside the "Black Lives Matter" - at last ) :

    Many potential immigrants will think twice before his pilgrimage to the "American Dream"... (no need to build the Wall)

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    ^^ With a police force like that, I can see why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    ^There is surely one positive factor thanks to these protests (beside the "Black Lives Matter" - at last ) :

    Many potential immigrants will think twice before his pilgrimage to the "American Dream"... (no need to build the Wall)


    No need to worry along those lines, the expanding American Empire will find it's way to them in one form or another.
    This is one of the larger pictures that most aren't getting.

    The very white American empire has treated the brown/black/red/yellow folks the same - domestic and foreign - forever.

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    Is the NFL top kneeling now ?

    Had half an eye on the News while reading here

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