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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post
    Big statement.
    News thread needs link
    Try reading the OP properly you dumb shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Canada isn't the States, and not all gun owners are conservatives.
    They're not banning all guns, are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    The overwhelming majority of gun deaths in Canada are caused by handguns, mostly illegal ones, and Trudeau didn't ban those. And assault rifles are illegal and have been for some time. The ones he banned just look like them, but are incapable of selective fire. But you probably don't know that.
    The overwhelming majority of gun deaths are suicides.

    This is to preclude mass shootings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    I consider both to be abuses of power, so yes I can compare the two.

    You consider policy decisions backed by public will to be "abuses of power"?

    You've been slurping the koolaid too long.

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    Thanks for adding the links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    This is Trudeaus way of exploiting the naivety of most Canadians, in regards to knowledge of guns, to gain votes when the money would be better spent in fighting smuggling and gang violence, and would have more immediate results.
    Straight out of the NRA "Dummies guide to whinging about gun laws".

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    money would be better spent fighting the smuggling of them.
    Perhaps you missed the bit where I said that they will be enacting legislation to do that, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Believe me, he chose the timing.
    I think the shooter chose the timing. Fortunately Canada didn't wait to act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    And you think that justifies a minority government that received just 33.1 percent of the popular vote the right to just ram their own laws through? The Liberals are the ones fighting re-opening parliament the most. There's a reason for that, and it ain't the virus.
    The Republicans wouldn't have control of the Whitehouse or the Senate if you now think the popular vote is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post
    Thanks for adding the links.

    You're an idiot and you can't read.

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    Getting a bit over excited there Barry, calm down.

    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    And what the fuck is an AR47?
    Probably a radioactive weapon for shooting up paper mills. Fingers crossed they are banned in Canada.

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    I'm on the fence with this one, have heard fair pro vs con arguments over the decades and tend to draw back from the noisy ones on both sides that come from an emotional cocoon that says you are absolutely right and therefore anyone disagreeing must therefore be wrong or stupid or both.

    Best gun I ever had was an air pistol which I used to shoot at a neighbour's chimney 55 years ago, and biggest beast I ever fired was a .22 at fairs, so I'm no authority on how to kill a deer or butcher a roomful of kids.

    But this toon struck a chord, and much like the retard that gets behind a wheel drunk or doped and kills someone is eager to blame the booze or drugs, I think there's an unfair stress on the crim/nutty minority of gun owners.

    Attachment 50139

    So anyone, what does 'gun control' stand for in the US? Is that like immigration 'reform' or the 'war on drugs', both meaningless clips that could mean anything? Honest, I don't know. Is the endgame to restrict certain types of weapon, or certain types of people from handling them, or a combo, or to remove them entirely and disarm society, fairly noting that crims will always have access as they do drugs and fraudulent instruments?

    Then what's the strategy to persuade state and federal legislators to strip what most gun owners view as their constitutional rights, when most legislators own guns and or are protected by armed escorts, or believe it is the right of the individual to do so?

    And then of course the difficult, practical side of matters, forcibly removing 400 million guns from 50 million households, many of which would make a stand resulting in far more carnage than anything we've seen before.

    Not for or against, but put a gun to my head and I would be for, qualified with sensible and practical restrictions that might work but probably won't, otherwise they would have already gone that route.

    But bottom line is the status quo, which allows gun ownership through far from perfect regulation, while an overwhelming majority of owners are lawful and responsible, so the onus must be on those wishing to change centuries of that fact to put forward valid and persuasive arguments, without stumbling into blinding emotions.

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    ^
    toon didn't show

    Canada bans assault weapons-gun-vs-fraud-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
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    Canada bans assault weapons-gun-vs-fraud-jpg
    I believe the phrase is "non sequitur".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    But bottom line is the status quo, which allows gun ownership through far from perfect regulation, while an overwhelming majority of owners are lawful and responsible, so the onus must be on those wishing to change centuries of that fact to put forward valid and persuasive arguments, without stumbling into blinding emotions.
    The simple fact is that less guns = less deaths.

    There is no emotion in that.

    The emotion is the ficititious "we can fight the government" argument, when in fact all the AR15's in the world aren't going to protect you against a fuel/air bomb, a tank or a predator drone.

    Unfortunately it's incredibly easy to dog whistle to uneducated racist white folk, as Alex Jones, the NRA and baldy orange cunto regularly demonstrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post
    Getting a bit over excited there Barry, calm down.

    Thanks again.
    Not in the least. Simply requesting that you go away and post your irrelevant drivel somewhere else.

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    Thanks again for my request of providing the links, missing from the opening post.

    Take it easy Barry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post
    Thanks again for my request of providing the links, missing from the opening post.

    Take it easy Barry.
    They were in it when I posted it.

    Are you retarded?
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The emotion is the ficititious "we can fight the government" argument, when in fact all the AR15's in the world aren't going to protect you against a fuel/air bomb, a tank or a predator drone.

    Unfortunately it's incredibly easy to dog whistle to uneducated racist white folk, as Alex Jones, the NRA and baldy orange cunto regularly demonstrate.
    And all that has fuck all to do with Canada.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The simple fact is that less guns = less deaths.
    Less processed food = less deaths
    Less alcohol = less deaths
    Less sugar = less deaths
    Less cars = less deaths

    All facts too.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The Republicans wouldn't have control of the Whitehouse or the Senate if you now think the popular vote is important.
    There's a big difference between 49.5 % and 33.1 %

    And you keep bringing up the USA, when this thread is about Canada. You also appear to mistakenly think that Canadians reasons for owning guns is to overthrow the government, and gun owners are all right wing conservatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Less processed food = less deaths
    Less alcohol = less deaths
    Less sugar = less deaths
    Less cars = less deaths
    .
    What a ridiculous comparison.

    We need food, sugar and cars to survive and live life. We don't need guns.

    One pint, bad meal, tablespoon of sugar or a drive in the car to the shops is very unlikely to kill you.

    However, one bullet to the head will do.

    There is no reason for Joe Public to own a gun and taking them away will result in many fewer needless deaths. What is so difficult about this for you to see?
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    Wonder if they did take his gun from his cold dead hands?

    Canada? Good luck. Tuddeaus is a shit stain. No way they will hand in their guns. Not a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    And all that has fuck all to do with Canada.
    Apologies. I have blocked said thicko.

    Now:

    Less processed food = less deaths
    Less alcohol = less deaths
    Less sugar = less deaths
    Less cars = less deaths
    Processed food was not designed to kill people.
    Alcohol was not designed to kill people.
    Sugar was not designed to kill people.
    Cars were not designed to kill people.

    Just so you know, guns were designed to kill people, all the way back to when they were called fire lances.


    There's a big difference between 49.5 % and 33.1 %
    Perhaps you don't get the meaning of the word "minority".

    the smaller number or part, especially a number or part representing less than half of the whole.
    Want to show me where that is qualified?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    We don't need guns.
    Is Ant going to give up his guns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Processed food was not designed to kill people.
    Alcohol was not designed to kill people.
    Sugar was not designed to kill people.
    Cars were not designed to kill people.
    But they do kill people. More so than guns.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Just so you know, guns were designed to kill people
    I guess the two million legal gun owners in Canada are doing it wrong then.

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