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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Basically China is being a whiny little bully bitch and the Uni has caved while the mainland Chinese students intimidate others,

    China . . . what a lovely addition to the world community . . . at the end of the day it's their way or the highway, they haven't learned that not everywhere is like China
    "They" don't care.

    They want to control their people and they want to control the narrative outside that might get their people off their arses to throw out Mr. Shithole and his regime of modern-day Nazis.

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    Pretty cheeky to be acting like that on foreign soil

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    "Arrogant" is the word..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    "Arrogant" is the word..
    Yes, to the extreme

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    That university sold out to the Chinkies many years ago. I remember going there twenty years ago and certain parts of the refectory had been taken over by various Asian groups and made their own...Chinese being the main one.

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    Drew Pavlou is no loss, believe me- although he will still probably be reinstated, or at least offered it. I doubt that is what he wants though- he has dropped out of his courses, and is suing the uni for 3.5mm. Plus, the Murdoch newspapers in particular have adopted his unworthy self as a cause celebre', a useful bit of China schtick. I don't think UQ did itself any favors dismissing him, just more grist for the propaganda mill. Would have been better to ignore him, as far as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Pretty cheeky to be acting like that on foreign soil
    Not the first time. Look at this fucking harridan from chinky state TV trying to interrupt a conference about Hong Kong that dared to mention democracy.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...says-uk-police

    And then squealing about how they had no right to throw her out because the UK is "democratic".

    The arrogance of these shitheads is astonishing.

    Imagine if you, as a foreigner, went to a conference in Chinastan and started talking about the merits of democracy.

    You'd be hit with some fabricated, heinous charge in a second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Would have been better to ignore him, as far as possible.
    China and China-dollars wouldn't have allowed that.

    Bullying and spying by mainland 'students' has been going on for years and years - I'm surprised you find that acceptable

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    Brisbane uni student Drew Pavlou loses appeal against suspension at The University of Queensland

    A Brisbane student who says he was relentless pursued for criticising his uni’s close ties with Beijing has been dealt a fresh blow.


    Suspended University of Queensland student Drew Pavlou has launched a $3.5 million lawsuit against the university, its chancellor and vice-chancellor.
    One of Australia’s most prestigious unis has upheld the suspension of a student who claims he was targeted for exposing the institution’s close ties with the Chinese Communist Party.
    Drew Pavlou said he fell out of favour with The University of Queensland after staging a protest 12 months ago against Beijing’s anti-democracy activities in Hong Kong.
    The small demonstration, which also raised the plight of the persecuted Uighur minority in China and criticised UQ’s links with the CCP, was gatecrashed by pro-China figures and turned violent.
    Mr Pavlou tried repeatedly to meet with UQ’s leadership to discuss financial and educational ties with Beijing-backed groups, but his requests fell on deaf ears.
    The 21-year-old ran for the university Senate and won a position as an undergraduate representative, and claims it sparked a disciplinary review.
    RELATED: The Australian uni student China wanted to silence, whose simple protest sparked a living hell

    Drew Pavlou has lost an appeal against his suspension from The University of Queensland, which he claims was punishment for criticising the uni’s close ties with Beijing. Picture: Lyndon MechielsenSource:News Corp Australia

    Mr Pavlou was originally hit with a two-year ‘suspension’, the loss of his position on the Senate and restrictions on his studies that would make it almost impossible for him to ever graduate.
    A long-running appeal came to an end today, with his original punishment replaced with a suspension for the remainder of the academic year and 25 hours of community service on campus.
    His Senate position has also been stripped from him.
    “UQ has burnt $1 million in taxpayer funds,” Mr Pavlou told news.com.au today.
    “We will seek an immediate injunction in the Supreme Court and fight it all the way to the High Court if need be. Total exoneration or nothing.”
    Mr Pavlou was due to graduate at the end of semester two this year.
    RELATED: Australian university teaching pro-China class that amounts to propaganda, critics say

    The University of Queensland is one of Australia’s most prestigious higher education institutions.Source:News Limited

    The saga has been both exhausting for Mr Pavlou and embarrassing for the uni, whose conduct during its dogged pursuit of the student has been criticised by legal giants, security experts and politicians.
    Its original dossier of misconduct included what Mr Pavlou and his lawyers described as “trumped up” charges, bullying claims against students who said they never complained or experienced abuse, and trivial allegations including briefly borrowing a pen from a bookshop instead of buying one.
    The university denies its pursuit of Mr Pavlou was ever related to his protests or criticism of its relationship with China.
    UQ hosts a Confucius Institute at its St Lucia campus – a controversial organisation with direct links to the CCP, which has been the subject of warnings from national security experts.
    Peter Hoj, the university’s Vice-Chancellor – a position akin to chief executive officer – was an unpaid senior consultant to the Confucius Institute Headquarters, known as Hanban, for four years, and a member of its powerful council.
    Mr Hoj ended his involvement in late 2018.
    RELATED: China is infiltrating Australia on multiple fronts, from politics to business, via its powerful and covert United Front agency

    Drew Pavlou is an anti-CCP activist who campaigns for democracy in Hong Kong and the end of persecution of Uighurs in China. Picture: AAPSource:News Corp Australia


    Drew Pavlou has filed a $3.5 million lawsuit against UQ and its leaders. Picture: AAPSource:AAP

    Earlier this month, material emerged from a UQ economics class that was described by one expert as CCP “propaganda”, amid revelations that the Confucius Institute paid for the course.
    Among topics canvassed in the ECON3820 course are the “terrorist” activities of the Uighur minority, whose persecution by Beijing has been described as ethnic cleansing.
    Another discussion was devoted to whether pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong amount to terrorism.
    Professor Clive Hamilton, a China expert at Charles Sturt University and author of the book Silent Invasion, said the involvement of the Confucius Institute in the course was “a scandal”.
    The contents of the course read more like CCP propaganda, he said.

    Drew was due to graduate at the end of this year. Picture: Lyndon MechielsenSource:News Corp Australia

    UQ also made China’s Consul-General to Australia in Brisbane, Dr Xu Jie, an honorary professor.
    Following Mr Pavlou’s protest last July, Dr Xu issued an extraordinary statement describing him as a “separatist” – a crime worse than murder in China – and praising the patriotism of the pro-Beijing counter-protesters.
    Mr Pavlou claimed he has been the subject of death threats from pro-Beijing supporters.
    In a statement, UQ Chancellor Peter Varghese said while it wasn’t the university’s “usual practice” to comment on the details of individual matters, an exception was being made due to the “level of public interest” and Mr Pavlou’s own public comments on the matter.
    “I confirm that the committee found serious misconduct on two of the allegations, but not the others. The Senate Disciplinary Appeals Committee (SDAC) reduced the period of suspension from two years to one semester, until December 2020,” the statement reads.
    “Neither of the findings of serious misconduct concerned Mr Pavlou’s personal or political views about China or Hong Kong. The university has consistently said that no student should be penalised for the lawful expression of personal views. This should finally put to rest the false allegations that this process has been an attack on freedom of expression.
    “Contrary to Mr Pavlou’s comments, there were no findings that any of the allegations were fabricated. The committee conducted a complete rehearing of the matter and was required to make decisions based only on the evidence before it. Mr Pavlou had legal representation at the hearing.”
    He said the decision by the SDAC “concludes the university’s disciplinary processes”.

    https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/brisbane-uni-student-drew-pavlou-loses-appeal-against-suspension-at-the-university-of-queensland/news-story/4c7caae14d508ecdddb5da62e6b4c434

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    The small demonstration, which also raised the plight of the persecuted Uighur minority in China and criticised UQ’s links with the CCP, was gatecrashed by pro-China figures and turned violent.
    Were the gatecrashers suspended too?

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    This guy again.

    Australian activist detained in London over alleged bomb threat email sent to Chinese embassy

    By Conor McCann and staffPosted 2h ago2 hours ago, updated 12m ago12 minutes ago

    Drew Pavlou (centre) has been an outspoken critic of the Chinese government and its track record on human rights.(AAP: Dan Peled)
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    SHAREAn Australian activist has been arrested and detained in London just 20 minutes into a protest outside the Chinese embassy after authorities alleged he had emailed a bomb threat.
    Key points:

    • The 23-year-old has been an outspoken critic of China's human rights record and was protesting outside its London embassy
    • He says he was arrested because someone else was sending threatening emails to the embassy in his name
    • He claims that UK police purposely kept him from contacting legal aid or consular services



    Drew Pavlou, a 23-year-old Australian activist who has been critical of China's human rights record, held a small protest outside the embassy, displaying a number of flags.
    They included those of Tibet, Taiwan, and the Kökbayraq, a flag used to represent the Uyghur inhabitants of Xinjiang.
    He had intended to glue the flags to the gates outside of the embassy, a similar tactic that groups like Extinction Rebellion have adopted in recent years.
    Twenty minutes into his protest, however, police arrived and arrested him, with officers alleging that Pavlou had earlier emailed a bomb threat to the embassy.
    Speaking to the ABC, Mr Pavlou said he believed the case was unfounded and due to misdirection. He denied all allegations against him.
    "There's very clearly someone who's just impersonating me, sending out these terrible emails, and I've spent 23 hours in a cell because of it," he said.
    While in custody, Mr Pavlou alleged that UK police told him he would be unable to contact anyone as they continued their investigation.





    "You can't speak to a lawyer. You can't ring anyone. You can't talk to anyone. You can't tell them what's happened to you," he said.
    "I was obviously just really frightened. I didn't know what I could do."
    He says he was roughly handcuffed in what he called a stress position by arresting officers, and was detained for hours before being told of the charges against him.
    "I said, what? What do you mean? And then it suddenly made sense why I was being handcuffed so harshly and being basically treated so poorly," he said.
    Mr Pavlou told the ABC that officers informed him that the Chinese embassy had made a report against him, citing an email they received with his name "all over it" which threatened a bomb attack.
    "I was just shocked ... I thought someone was taking the piss," he said.
    Allegedly denied consular access

    Sitting in a cell by himself, with no one knowing his whereabouts, Mr Pavlou says officers told him they would be searching his UK residence and his laptop.
    He requested a lawyer, but says it wasn't until midnight that he was allowed to call anyone.
    By that point, all of his contacts were asleep.
    "I said please put me through to the Australian consular authorities," Mr Pavlou said.
    "[The officers] were like, oh, sorry, the consulate's closed. They're all asleep."
    Mr Pavlou says the reason officers gave for denying him outside contact was to ensure he couldn't ask anyone to destroy evidence, although he believes that police were purposefully putting him in a stressful situation.


    Drew Pavlou holds up a protest poster during a speech by Chinese Ambassador Xiao Qian in June.(ABC: Dong Xing )By midnight, he said he had yet to even see the email in question. After having spent nearly 10 hours in custody, and with no outside contact, he said he requested officers conduct an interview so that he could see the email.
    Mr Pavlou alleges that officers made him sign a document, waiving his right to legal representation.
    He says officers agreed to conduct an interview at around 1am, but nothing happened until 2am, at which point he says he fell asleep, only to be awoken close to 4am to do the interview.
    "I said, can we do it later? I've changed my mind. I'm tired. It's 4am. And then they said 'no, it has to be now'. I was just absolutely exhausted.
    "That's when they said this is a seven year prison sentence."
    Mr Pavlou says officers began by asking him who he was and why he was in the UK, his reasons for going to the Chinese embassy.
    They also posed questions about how he sends emails, and if he had any mental health conditions.
    He tried to explain his history of activism to the officers, though says they weren't convinced.
    "I was just begging them to believe me," he said.
    Emails sent to lawyers and politicians

    Mr Pavlou says officers requested the PIN for his cell phone which had been seized, and that if he didn't comply, he could have faced an additional five years for obstructing justice.
    He was eventually released but says UK authorities advised him against leaving the country, despite not being formally charged with anything. Officers returned his passport, he says, but not his cell phone.
    The embassy was not the only recipient of emails appearing to be sent by Mr Pavlou.
    Thousands of faces revealed in Xinjiang Police Files

    The source of the files claims to have hacked and downloaded the documents from several police computer servers in China's far-western region of Xinjiang, before decrypting and leaking them.





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    Caoilfhionn Gallagher, a prominent human rights lawyer in the UK, received an email purporting to be from Mr Pavlou, as did two of her colleagues.
    Australian Senator James Patterson also received an email, as did UK human rights campaigner Luke de Pulford, from a sender pretending to be Mr Pavlou asking for help with an arrest and assault charge.
    A spokesperson from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade told the ABC that DFAT has offered consular assistance to Mr Pavlou, and that officials from Australia's High Commission in London would raise Mr Pavlou's claim that he was denied consular access before being released with UK authorities.
    Alan Crockford, spokesman for the Metropolitan Police, refused to confirm that Mr Pavlou had been arrested, but added that "strict codes of practice under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act" are upheld when people are detained.
    "Anyone who wishes to complain about their treatment by the Metropolitan Police can contact the Met's Directorate of Professional Standards or the UK Independent Office for Police Conduct," Mr Crockford wrote in an email to the ABC.
    The ABC has also reached out to the Chinese embassy in the UK for comment.
    Mr Pavlou has retained legal council in the UK.


    Posted 2h ago2 hours ago, updated 12m ago

    Australian activist detained in London over alleged bomb threat email sent to Chinese embassy - ABC News







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    Attention seeking loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Attention seeking loser.
    Well of course, he's not a snivelling chinky sycophant is he?

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    No, just an attention seeking loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Drew Pavlou holds up a protest poster during a speech by Chinese Ambassador Xiao Qian
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Attention seeking loser.
    Says . . . you? If he were protesting against the US you'd be praising him to high heaven.

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    GIYF PH. I'm not bothered wasting more keystrokes on the loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    GIYF PH. I'm not bothered wasting more keystrokes on the loser.
    Yet here you are . . . so I am right:
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    If he were protesting against the US you'd be praising him to high heaven.
    And for what it's worth, if he protests against the US I'd support that as well. This is called not being dogmatic.

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    If he were protesting against the US, I certainly would not be praising him at all when I got to know what a scumbag he was irl. That does not preclude me from agreeing with his position on the matter. Just common sense PH. Do you think everyone that votes for My party is a scumbag, and everyone that votes for Your party is a great bloke, and fine upstanding citizen? D'ohhh.

    If you are so fascinated by this bloke, GIYF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I'm not bothered wasting more keystrokes on the loser.
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Today, 10:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    If you are so fascinated by this bloke, GIYF.
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Today, 11:24 AM
    Good to see you stick by your principles

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    YIf you are an Overseas student, you will be charged a significantly higher level of course fee, which will vary according to your programme of study
    My son did a Masters in UK. As a "foreigner" he paid more. As a Brit. they didn't have any places!

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    Last edited by sabang; 26-07-2022 at 06:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I'm not bothered wasting more keystrokes on the loser.
    Australian Student Activist Faces Expulsion After Criticism From Chinese Diplomat-hey-girl-gif


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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    No, just an attention seeking loser.
    Brian Berletic probably has a file on this loser. It would be strange if he wasn't getting money from a US/5 eyes NGO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Willy View Post
    What's this all about then? Sounds a little strange to me.
    It’s probably just an excuse for the Chinese to do a bit of eaves dropping, or academic espionage.

    There are a number in UK too. Came up during Tory party leadership bunfight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    It’s probably just an excuse for the Chinese to do a bit of eaves dropping, or academic espionage.

    There are a number in UK too. Came up during Tory party leadership bunfight.
    Ohh the Chinese boogeyman. The reds under the bed.

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