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    Australia's "working tourist visa" thing seems to work just fine, so why not copy it?
    I concur.

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    angela merkel has got a big headache she and half her cronies NEED 75BILLION EURO'S to top up the budget,as she puts it the unions SECOND biggest member has pulled out [10yrs TOOOOOO late.surprised there will be more to follow,already 4 of the main contributors said they will give NO MORE.

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    Sorry, what has that got to do with Britain's immigration policy?

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    ^Just another slavering BREXITer.

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    According to officials from one of her former departments, Priti Patel was given to coming out of her office and inquiring: “Why is everyone so fucking useless?” Very bold. This is a bit like Donald Trump coming out of his office and asking why everyone has spectacularly stupid hair. The perma-smirking Patel has now moved on to the Home Office, where this week she was accused of bullying staff, trying to oust her most senior official, and creating an “atmosphere of fear” within the department. As opposed to outside of it, which is the norm. If nothing else, it’s a failure of management. To get the best out of people who you want to do their worst, you need to create the right working environment. It’s why the offices of S.P.E.C.T.R.E have a great creche, a smoothie bar, and two “I don’t feel like killing” days per annum for every employee.

    As for the Home Office, a complex department already regarded as malevolent, it is now in the hands of someone who recently gave an interview in which she repeatedly confused “counter-terrorism” with “terrorism”. This whole “Priti Patel is home secretary” scenario has the flavour of one of those US news stories where some open-carry idiot’s toddler has leant forward in their car seat and pulled a gun out of the backseat pocket. If you’re one of those people who get off on saying “I told you so”, then fine. But really, there are no good outcomes here. One of the more eye-catching Home Office briefings against her this week declared that Patel was “not committed to the rule of law”. Given she’s home secretary, that feels akin to a doctor not being committed to the idea of medicine. Should it not be vaguely disqualifying?

    Arguably, then, it’s been the trickiest week for Priti since the one when she went on a private family holiday to Israel with her husband and then-nine-year-old son, and met with … hang on, we’re going to need a colon here because there’s rather a lot of this: prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, a senior foreign ministry diplomat, the public security minister, the leader of the Yesh Atid party, at least nine NGO leaders, staff at a hospital, two charity bosses … There are several more, but all you need to know is that this was your classic holiday-with-kids. “Can we go to a waterpark?” “No. Mummy needs some me-time in the Golan Heights.”

    I’m only kidding – presumably the husband did the childcare while Priti relaxed on a lounger at the Knesset. Or maybe everyone was included, with the grownups playing it all as an elaborate fib, like when you try to persuade your children that something grim is a fun game. “You said we were going to have an ice-cream.” “I know but I’ve got something even better – it’s Benjamin Netanyahu!” (I mean … we’ve all met some ghastly people on holiday, haven’t we, but that’s got to be pushing it.)

    Despite being resigned from office after that little jolly, Priti Patel is now home secretary, a yin whose yang is the statement, “Dominic Raab is now foreign secretary”. And in keeping with the ironicidal themes of the Boris Johnson administration, it this week fell to madam to front the government’s new policy barring unskilled workers from coming to the UK.

    Patel insisted those jobs previously filled by immigrant workers would be stepped up to by Britons currently classed as “economically inactive” – a rationale that means so much more coming from someone always classed as intellectually inactive. One theory is that last Thursday’s cabinet reshuffle brought bad news from Priti’s magic mirror, which no longer gave the desired answer when she inquired of it: “Who is the dimmest of them all?” So this week has been all about restoring herself to her rightful throne.

    Either way, Dominic Cummings will doubtless enjoy the torrent of briefing against Patel, because it plays into his narrative that the sole brake on this government’s genius is the civil service. Cummings has made so much of his intention to revolutionise “the blob” that the only reading that flatters him assumes that he wishes to do quite the opposite. Otherwise, why play it like he has? If you talk to people who have genuinely revolutionised any established institution, the absolute first thing they will tell you is that you never, ever do it by announcing that plan when you arrive. If you do, you set up resistance and defensiveness from the start.

    So has our beanie-hatted strategist cocked this battle up before it was even fought? You’ve heard of Sun Tzu – meet his brother, Shi-Tzu. Of course, I’m being unfair, because you can’t fault Cummings on the old election-winning. But it increasingly feels like his plan to remake the state could end up commuted down to shifting the location of some lobby journalist briefings and firing a few spads. As physicist Murray Gell-Mann once remarked: BIG WOWS. The question is not if but when the Cummings flounce-out happens. A big fan of interdisciplinary enlightenment, I know he’d be stimulated to learn it was exactly the same with Geri and the Spice Girls. It doesn’t take a superforecaster to see that Dominic will sooner or later be a superblogger again.

    And so to the impossibly brief tenure of superforecaster Andrew Sabisky. Cummings’s first hire after his appeal for “weirdos and misfits” to work in No 10 ended up with the apparently unvetted Sabisky flaming out on Monday. When Cummings left his house for work the next day, he was accosted by a journalist shouting laconically: “Have you got any more weirdos?” This is definitely my favourite doorstep inquiry since Michael Crick greeted Peter Mandelson one morning with the salutation: “Will you be telling any lies today, Mr Mandelson?”

    But let’s get real here for a minute and ask: how weird was Cummings’s weirdo, really? When Classique Dom put out his famous APB, I was envisaging someone like the brilliant non-binary quantitative analyst in Billions, an unconventional genius with a fascinating and mysterious backstory. Instead, the very first “weirdo” Cummings went for was some basic Oxbridge thinktank twat, at least 436 of which can be found wanking on the wrong side of the velvet rope at the Spectator party at Tory conference. Yes, he’s a dreary little eugenicist bro. But aren’t they all, dear.

    Still, on the show goes. Indeed, speaking of the economically inactive, whatever happened to the prime minister? One hears so little about Boris Johnson these days, and sees him even less. His career refusal to even pretend to give a shit has been noticed by some in the worst flood-hit communities, who are more likely to be visited by Elvis than Boris.

    According to briefings, the PM spent much of the week holed up in Chevening, the Kent country house normally at the disposal of the foreign secretary. It seems Chequers is being renovated, so Johnson must have commandeered the next grace-and-favour property down. Don’t get me wrong, I’m pleased for the Chevening locals. I don’t think any of us would wish to meet Raab on a remote country lane. And perhaps this is how the PM means to conduct his premiership – with the odd mad appearance on the battlements, but in general concealed from public view like some Victorian liability. It’s a living, I suppose. But is it a life?

    Perma-smirking Priti Patel brings the hostile environment in-house | Marina Hyde | Opinion | The Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Inevitably, it seems that Britain will be importing Asians and Africans to do this work in numbers that most likely will equate to over 200,000.That'll be nice.
    This time the Brits don't have to pick them up from Africa. They will come by themselves and be some sort of volunteer slaves.


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    ^^ well she has a point doesn't she. She's probably fed up with asking desk loafers like Sausages to get the fuk on with stuff instead of producing lots of paper with words on. I am given to understand that one particular POS she is trying to offload has made a career out of bouncing from one Dept to another and left his former bosses scratching their heads wondering just wtf he spent 2-3 years doing there. Thats the Civil Service for you. I believe the POS is called Sir Philip Rutnam.

    UK shuts the door to unskilled migrants-philip_rutnam-jpg

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    I was watching 'Question Time' last night when Michael Portillo commented more than once that he felt Britain was 'decadent' in 'expecting' lowly paid jobs to be done by foreigners.

    So expect to see him in his purple suit emptying the bedpans at a hospital near you, any day now.


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    ^ well we pay for people to sit on their fuking arses getting paid by social security, we may as well get something out of the indolent fukers even if its a pizza delivered 1/2 hr late with a slice missing.

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    ^ perhaps you need to step into their shoes for a while...

    I've known a few and worked with a few in my time. It is not an easy position to be in, semi-skilled, laid off and no-one interested in you. How about happily married mum with two kids finding out hubby just got killed in car crash and she needs to fend for herself...oh fuck indeed! Not all are lazy arses...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    ^ well we pay for people to sit on their fuking arses getting paid by social security, we may as well get something out of the indolent fukers even if its a pizza delivered 1/2 hr late with a slice missing.
    Fucking 'ell Nammers. The social security net is there for a purpose. My great uncle (long since sadly passed) paid his taxes and insurance year after year but came a cropper in the 80s and almost found himself on the street. Were it not for the DSS and the benefits he was able to claim he'd have been in the gutter.

    A few sheckles a month insurance is surely worth it unless you're a total Thatcher cnut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    unless you're a total Thatcher cnut.
    Hello

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I've known a few and worked with a few in my time. It is not an easy position to be in, semi-skilled, laid off and no-one interested in you. How about happily married mum with two kids finding out hubby just got killed in car crash and she needs to fend for herself...oh fuck indeed! Not all are lazy arses...
    Were you the prostitute Oz shagged in Auf wiedersehen pet?

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    ^ Despite your right wing tendencies, I like both yours and NPT's posts. It is a forum for enjoyment after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Sorry, what has that got to do with Britain's immigration policy?
    during the 70's & 80's I was a tax and vat accountant who done returns for inderpendant retailers,sole traders.market traders and p.a.y.e.out of about 60clients I had NOT ONE immigrant [you now the ones] that worked the markets who paid tax or vat.everything they bought at wholesalers was paid in cash.therefore all the procedds where sent home.many times I spoke with tax and vat officers they told me it was racist if they inquired into their lives.so not a penny went into the british economy and that was a lot of money.many of my clients had to pack up as they couldn't compete.so cheap labour like those who have a screwdriver think they are a electrican.
    being someone who has worked hard all my life and got fk.all out of the gov.never been on the dole,never owed anyone a penny,that was till customs & exise trie to rob me of 13,000pounds when actually it was 1,300pounds.so maybe the GREAT might be added to Britain once more.
    a rant from a hard working taff.

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    Coons tend to go to their own kind. No fucking way a Patel is going to whitey to cook his books and no fucking way a Patel will borrow from the High Street when they can go to the Patelbank.

    All the corner shop Gujurati wallahs established their primacy by using families to work and borrowing from within the Gujurati community - that way they cut their profit margins and killed off the British shopkeeper.

    Now we have a nazi Patel home secretary too stupid to realise we white Brits despise her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Fucking 'ell Nammers. The social security net is there for a purpose. A few sheckles a month insurance is surely worth it unless you're a total Thatcher cnut.
    Erm apologies for the inaccuracy, i was not referring to those who find themselves in need of the support of the system its designed for, rather i meant the lazy wankers who make a career out of avoiding having to work and spend their lives letting those who work pay for them.

    Now are we all calm, great result last night.

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    ^^

    not entirely sure why you feel compelled to use racial slurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    ^^

    not entirely sure why you feel compelled to use racial slurs.
    you never been to England, haven't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    According to officials from one of her former departments, Priti Patel was given to coming out of her office and inquiring: “Why is everyone so fucking useless?” Very bold. This is a bit like Donald Trump coming out of his office and asking why everyone has spectacularly stupid hair. The perma-smirking Patel has now moved on to the Home Office, where this week she was accused of bullying staff, trying to oust her most senior official, and creating an “atmosphere of fear” within the department. As opposed to outside of it, which is the norm. If nothing else, it’s a failure of management. To get the best out of people who you want to do their worst, you need to create the right working environment. It’s why the offices of S.P.E.C.T.R.E have a great creche, a smoothie bar, and two “I don’t feel like killing” days per annum for every employee.

    As for the Home Office, a complex department already regarded as malevolent, it is now in the hands of someone who recently gave an interview in which she repeatedly confused “counter-terrorism” with “terrorism”. This whole “Priti Patel is home secretary” scenario has the flavour of one of those US news stories where some open-carry idiot’s toddler has leant forward in their car seat and pulled a gun out of the backseat pocket. If you’re one of those people who get off on saying “I told you so”, then fine. But really, there are no good outcomes here. One of the more eye-catching Home Office briefings against her this week declared that Patel was “not committed to the rule of law”. Given she’s home secretary, that feels akin to a doctor not being committed to the idea of medicine. Should it not be vaguely disqualifying?

    Arguably, then, it’s been the trickiest week for Priti since the one when she went on a private family holiday to Israel with her husband and then-nine-year-old son, and met with … hang on, we’re going to need a colon here because there’s rather a lot of this: prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, a senior foreign ministry diplomat, the public security minister, the leader of the Yesh Atid party, at least nine NGO leaders, staff at a hospital, two charity bosses … There are several more, but all you need to know is that this was your classic holiday-with-kids. “Can we go to a waterpark?” “No. Mummy needs some me-time in the Golan Heights.”

    I’m only kidding – presumably the husband did the childcare while Priti relaxed on a lounger at the Knesset. Or maybe everyone was included, with the grownups playing it all as an elaborate fib, like when you try to persuade your children that something grim is a fun game. “You said we were going to have an ice-cream.” “I know but I’ve got something even better – it’s Benjamin Netanyahu!” (I mean … we’ve all met some ghastly people on holiday, haven’t we, but that’s got to be pushing it.)

    Despite being resigned from office after that little jolly, Priti Patel is now home secretary, a yin whose yang is the statement, “Dominic Raab is now foreign secretary”. And in keeping with the ironicidal themes of the Boris Johnson administration, it this week fell to madam to front the government’s new policy barring unskilled workers from coming to the UK.

    Patel insisted those jobs previously filled by immigrant workers would be stepped up to by Britons currently classed as “economically inactive” – a rationale that means so much more coming from someone always classed as intellectually inactive. One theory is that last Thursday’s cabinet reshuffle brought bad news from Priti’s magic mirror, which no longer gave the desired answer when she inquired of it: “Who is the dimmest of them all?” So this week has been all about restoring herself to her rightful throne.

    Either way, Dominic Cummings will doubtless enjoy the torrent of briefing against Patel, because it plays into his narrative that the sole brake on this government’s genius is the civil service. Cummings has made so much of his intention to revolutionise “the blob” that the only reading that flatters him assumes that he wishes to do quite the opposite. Otherwise, why play it like he has? If you talk to people who have genuinely revolutionised any established institution, the absolute first thing they will tell you is that you never, ever do it by announcing that plan when you arrive. If you do, you set up resistance and defensiveness from the start.

    So has our beanie-hatted strategist cocked this battle up before it was even fought? You’ve heard of Sun Tzu – meet his brother, Shi-Tzu. Of course, I’m being unfair, because you can’t fault Cummings on the old election-winning. But it increasingly feels like his plan to remake the state could end up commuted down to shifting the location of some lobby journalist briefings and firing a few spads. As physicist Murray Gell-Mann once remarked: BIG WOWS. The question is not if but when the Cummings flounce-out happens. A big fan of interdisciplinary enlightenment, I know he’d be stimulated to learn it was exactly the same with Geri and the Spice Girls. It doesn’t take a superforecaster to see that Dominic will sooner or later be a superblogger again.

    And so to the impossibly brief tenure of superforecaster Andrew Sabisky. Cummings’s first hire after his appeal for “weirdos and misfits” to work in No 10 ended up with the apparently unvetted Sabisky flaming out on Monday. When Cummings left his house for work the next day, he was accosted by a journalist shouting laconically: “Have you got any more weirdos?” This is definitely my favourite doorstep inquiry since Michael Crick greeted Peter Mandelson one morning with the salutation: “Will you be telling any lies today, Mr Mandelson?”

    But let’s get real here for a minute and ask: how weird was Cummings’s weirdo, really? When Classique Dom put out his famous APB, I was envisaging someone like the brilliant non-binary quantitative analyst in Billions, an unconventional genius with a fascinating and mysterious backstory. Instead, the very first “weirdo” Cummings went for was some basic Oxbridge thinktank twat, at least 436 of which can be found wanking on the wrong side of the velvet rope at the Spectator party at Tory conference. Yes, he’s a dreary little eugenicist bro. But aren’t they all, dear.

    Still, on the show goes. Indeed, speaking of the economically inactive, whatever happened to the prime minister? One hears so little about Boris Johnson these days, and sees him even less. His career refusal to even pretend to give a shit has been noticed by some in the worst flood-hit communities, who are more likely to be visited by Elvis than Boris.

    According to briefings, the PM spent much of the week holed up in Chevening, the Kent country house normally at the disposal of the foreign secretary. It seems Chequers is being renovated, so Johnson must have commandeered the next grace-and-favour property down. Don’t get me wrong, I’m pleased for the Chevening locals. I don’t think any of us would wish to meet Raab on a remote country lane. And perhaps this is how the PM means to conduct his premiership – with the odd mad appearance on the battlements, but in general concealed from public view like some Victorian liability. It’s a living, I suppose. But is it a life?

    Perma-smirking Priti Patel brings the hostile environment in-house | Marina Hyde | Opinion | The Guardian
    Still kissing a Marina Hyde’s bottom I see. The Telegraph version won’t be to your taste, so just ignore it as usual. If the guardian is the only opinion you read, it’s no wonder you are so unforgiveably vacuous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    The Telegraph version won’t be to your taste
    Put it up and let's see, tubbs.

    But you can't, can you, you tiresome twat.

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    I must say, that was a particularly petulant piece from the Grauniad. Like a civil servant, landed with the devastating realisation it does not run the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I must say, that was a particularly petulant piece from the Grauniad. Like a civil servant, landed with the devastating realisation it does not run the country.
    Published in The Guardian yes but in the opinion section by one of their columnists. It's not an editorial..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Put it up and let's see, tubbs.

    But you can't, can you, you tiresome twat.
    I have to say it, what you posted was a brilliant piece of writing

    Brexiteers probably were feeling tortured while reading it all, regardless it was brilliant

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