Thread: Ukrainian airliner crashes near Tehran: Iranian media

Iran plane crash: Ukrainian jet was 'unintentionally' shot down - state TV

Iran's military says it "unintentionally" shot down a Ukrainian passenger jet, Iran's state TV reports.

The statement said it had done so due to "human error" after the plane flew close to a sensitive site belonging to Iran's Revolutionary Guards.

Those responsible would be held accountable, the statement said.

Iran had previously rejected suggestions that one of its missiles brought down the plane near the capital, Tehran, on Wednesday.

But pressure mounted after the US and Canada, citing intelligence, said they believed Iran had shot down the plane with a missile, possibly accidentally.

The downing of Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 with the loss of 176 lives came just hours after Iran carried out missile strikes on two airbases housing US forces in Iraq.

The Ukrainian flight, which was headed to the Canadian city of Toronto via the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, came down near Imam Khomeini Airport shortly after take off.

US media had speculated that the Ukrainian airliner may have been mistaken for a warplane as Iran prepared for possible US retaliation.

The Iranian air strikes were launched in retaliation to the killing of top Iranian general Qasem Soleimani in a US drone attack on 3 January.

In a tweet on Saturday, Iranian foreign minister Mohammad Javed Zarif suggested "US adventurism" was partly to blame for the downing of the Ukrainian jet.

As the evidence pointing to a missile strike built, Iran promised a full investigation. But on Thursday, TV images from the crash site showed a mechanical digger helping to clear debris away, raising concerns that important evidence could have been removed.

Iran plane crash: Ukrainian jet was 'unintentionally' shot down - state TV - BBC News

Well that lemming OhDoh can stop trying to deny it now.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Well that lemming OhDoh can stop trying to deny it now.

Let's see if he snivels about this as much as he did about the Vincennes.

Oh and our other resident whackjob Backspin will probably crawl back under his rock now.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Jesus Christ. Iran just admitted that it accidentally shot the jet down. I just wouldn't have believed it if they didnt admit it. Holy Christ. Luck is not on Irans side.

Anyway it was still a casualty of war. A war started by the USA.

It was a civilian aircraft in Iranian airspace shot down by Iranian missiles you utter fucking cock.



P.S. I'm not sure if you are stunned by the fact that they did it, which is not at all surprising, or that they've admitted it, which is quite a stunner for the mad mullahs.

Isn't it a piece of luck that somebody (not really friendly with his own govt and the millions of his compatriots in the streets) just looked in the right minute thru his poor I-phone in the right direction and could immediately transfer the video around the world in the right hands?

So, the clever Bellingcat could immediately be sure who did the shot...

(wasn't it the same one who shot the graphic videos at 9/11?)

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Isn't it a piece of luck that somebody (not really friendly with his own govt and the millions of his compatriots in the streets) just looked in the right minute thru his poor I-phone in the right direction and could immediately transfer the video around the world in the right hands?

So, the clever Bellingcat could immediately be sure who did the shot...





(wasn't it the same one who shot the graphic videos at 9/11?)

JHC, you gotta be kidding me. The mind works in funny ways...

Originally Posted by aging one

JHC, you gotta be kidding me. The mind works in funny ways...

They are brainwashed.

At least they admitted it was an accident I'm sure everyone on board feels a lot better about the incident.
RIP.

Originally Posted by klong toey

At least they admitted it was an accident I'm sure everyone on board feels a lot better about the incident.
RIP.

It wasn't an accident but whatever makes the world feel all warm and fuzzy I guess.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Shoulder fired missiles are unlikely to be heat seeking and that rules out your theory.

MANPADS can be optical or IR but the early indications put it as an SA-15 firing a pair of missiles, which is a standard air defence technique.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Is it a full moon?

Was couple days ago in LoS but luna-see lingers a few days.
Besides, it is well know the Iranians are liars so still can't be sure. Ain't that right Oh?

Originally Posted by klong toey

At least they admitted it was an accident I'm sure everyone on board feels a lot better about the incident.

They could also say they have got intelligence that on the board was something damaging for Iran, intending to bomb Tehran, or something like this... (don't they watch foreign TV?)

And the evidence? It is confidential, essential for the national security...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

And the evidence? It is confidential, essential for the national security...

Originally Posted by Fondles

It wasn't an accident but whatever makes the world feel all warm and fuzzy I guess.

It wasn't an accident in terms of them succeeding in shooting down what they stupidly thought was an enemy plane or drone.

But I'm pretty sure they would rather have avoided the embarrassment of shooting down a civilian airliner.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by Klondyke
And the evidence? It is confidential, essential for the national security...

I am shocked. snubby got the clue? or as usually didn't?

Usually, there are no doubts what he wanted to tell us...

Just an example of lying, even in the same story

Remember, before Planet Labs pictures came out, the same defense officials were saying all Iranian missiles missed... There was a clear attempt, and enormous political motivation, to down-play damages and sell de-escalation to the US public. Even if you ignore the WH's track records, there's not much point in using what officials say as a reference.

Here's the real damage report.


Dan Lamothe Twitterissa: "More fidelity to battle damage at Al Asad following Iran's attack, per defense official:

One severely damaged Black Hawk
One damaged aerial drone
Damaged taxiways, aircraft ramp
Nine destroyed maintenance shelters
Three destroyed pickup trucks

In Erbil, damage to a watchtower."

^However, if they would have installed a good defense command, something like NORAD, they could avoid such huge damaging, didn't it was proved 19 years ago?

Damn just two simpletons can drag a thread straight down into the ground...

The forgotten story of Iran Air Flight 655
WaPo Oct. 16, 2013
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The story of Iran Air 655 begins, like so much of the U.S.-Iran struggle, with the 1979 Islamic revolution. When Iraq invaded Iran the following year, the United States supported Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein against the two countries' mutual Iranian enemy. The war dragged on for eight awful years, claiming perhaps a million lives.

Toward the end of the war, on July 3, 1988, a U.S. Navy ship called the Vincennes was exchanging fire with small Iranian ships in the Persian Gulf. The U.S. Navy kept ships there, and still does, to protect oil trade routes. As the American and Iranian ships skirmished, Iran Air Flight 655 took off from nearby Bandar Abbas International Airport, bound for Dubai. The airport was used by both civilian and military aircraft. The Vincennes mistook the lumbering Airbus A300 civilian airliner for a much smaller and faster F-14 fighter jet, perhaps in the heat of battle or perhaps because the flight allegedly did not identify itself. It fired two surface-to-air missiles, killing all 290 passengers and crew members on board.

The horrible incident brought Tehran closer to ending the war, but its effects have lingered much longer than that. "The shoot-down of Iran Air flight 655 was an accident, but that is not how it was seen in Tehran," former CIA analyst and current Brookings scholar Kenneth Pollack wrote in his 2004 history of U.S.-Iran enmity, "The Persian Puzzle." "The Iranian government assumed that the attack had been purposeful. ... Tehran convinced itself that Washington was trying to signal that the United States had decided to openly enter the war on Iraq's side."

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Americans might not know about Flight 655. But Iranians surely do -- they can hardly forget about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ir-flight-655/

Iran’s Rouhani vows to ‘identify & prosecute’ all responsible for ‘disastrous mistake’ that led to Ukrainian jet downing

11 Jan, 2020

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has pledged to find and punish all those involved in the unintentional shooting down of a Ukrainian aircraft over Tehran, calling it a “disastrous mistake.”

An internal investigation has "concluded that regrettably missiles fired due to human error caused the horrific crash of the Ukrainian plane and death of 176 innocent people,” Rouhani said in a tweet.

Investigations continue to identify and prosecute this great tragedy and unforgivable mistake.

“My thoughts and prayers go to all the mourning families,” the president said in another post, offering “sincerest condolences” over the tragedy.
Iran’s Rouhani vows to ‘identify & prosecute’ all responsible for ‘disastrous mistake’ that led to Ukrainian jet downing — RT World News


Whilst:

Despite the mistakes made in the downing of the plane, the men of USS Vincennes were awarded Combat Action Ribbons for completion of their tours in a combat zone. The air-warfare coordinator on duty received the Navy Commendation Medal,[14] but The Washington Post reported in 1990 that the awards were for his entire tour from 1984 to 1988 and for his actions relating to the surface engagement with Iranian gunboats.[73] In 1990, Rogers was awarded the Legion of Merit "for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer [...] from April 1987 to May 1989." The award was given for his service as the commanding officer of Vincennes from April 1987 to May 1989. The citation made no mention of the downing of Iran Air 655.[74][75]

Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia

Originally Posted by Backspin

I can tell judging by your celebration, that you weren't so sure of this whole story yourself.

If you bothered to read instead of just posting shite, I said all along that Boeings crash. And then when rumours started to circulate that it was shot down, I said I wouldn't put it past the Iranians to do something so dumb.

It has happened before in the Gulf, although you wouldn't know that, because you're a fucking nutjob.

Iran plane crash: Protesters condemn 'lies' on downed jet

Hundreds of protesters have taken to the streets in Iran's capital, Tehran, to vent anger at officials, calling them liars for having denied shooting down a Ukrainian passenger plane.

Protests took place outside at least two universities, with tear gas reportedly fired.

US President Donald Trump tweeted support for the "inspiring" protests.

Iran on Saturday admitted downing the jet "unintentionally", three days after the crash that killed 176 people.

Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752, en route to Kyiv, was shot down on Wednesday near Imam Khomeini Airport in Tehran shortly after take-off, and only hours after Iran had fired missiles at two air bases housing US forces in Iraq.

Those attacks were Iran's response to the US killing of senior Iranian commander Qasem Soleimani in a drone strike in Baghdad on 3 January.

Dozens of Iranians and Canadians, as well as nationals from Ukraine, the UK, Afghanistan and Germany died on the plane.


What happened at the protests?

Students gathered outside at least two universities, Sharif and Amir Kabir, reports said, initially to pay respect to the victims. Protests turned angry in the evening.

The semi-official Fars news agency carried a rare report of the unrest, saying up to 1,000 people had chanted slogans against leaders and tore up pictures of Soleimani.

The students called for those responsible for the downing the plane, and those they said had covered up the action, to be prosecuted.

Chants included "commander-in-chief resign", referring to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, and "death to liars".

Fars said police had "dispersed" the protesters, who were blocking roads. Social media footage appeared to show tear gas being fired.

Social media users also vented anger at the government's actions.

One wrote on Twitter: "I will never forgive the authorities in my country, the people who were on the scene and lying."

The protests were, however, far smaller than the mass demonstrations across Iran in support of Soleimani after he was killed.

Iran plane crash: Protesters condemn 'lies' on downed jet - BBC News