Thread: British police shoot man after possible 'terror-related' stabbing near London Bridge

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

I don't believe in trying to reform the muzzie scum, their ideology is beyond our help and why we allow them back into a society they viscerally hate makes no sense to me. The problem is there's now a few million of them so its only going to deteriorate, the future looks bleak imo.

One has to imagine their way of thinking. In their world such nonsense killings are on a daily routine. And in a larger scale - no such publicizing, what will it do to their psychology?

And in case a murderer was discovered, he will be exonerated, perhaps declared as a hero, even the president will care for him (what was the last case? Gallagher?)

What on earth are you prattling on about now, klondick?

The baying of the lumpen mob trying to articulate what passes for their enfeebled thought processes as they wallow in their bigoted prejudices is always amusing.

Still, stupidity is the bedrock of the human condition at its lower end and one cannot do much about that, particularly when they represent the majority.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The baying of the lumpen mob trying to articulate what passes for their enfeebled thought processes as they wallow in their bigoted prejudices is always amusing.

Still, stupidity is the bedrock of the human condition at its lower end and one cannot do much about that, particularly when they represent the majority.

Rule #1 about being in a hole of ignorance: Best to stop digging.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Oh, I see it's a matter of " Fuck it I won't detonate my bomb yet, I 'm only being attacked by innocent bystanders who have surrounded me and, oops, they got me on the ground now, they've taken me knives and bonged me on the head with a fucking fire extinguisher and stuck me up the arse with a fucking narwhal horn but I won't blow myself up and everyone else just yet because I'm really waiting for the police, innit" sort of thing, is it?

Prag, you are just making yourself out to be an arse.

Again: the modus operandus of the modern suicide bomber is to lure in as many victims as possible. And often they will have a secondary device to attack first responders as well.

You really are out of your depth and showing what a complete fucking ignoramus you are.

"I would put the cuffs on" yeah, right.

There really is no such thing as a fake bomb vest. It's a bit like calling a gun fake because the magazine attached has no bullets. It was a lethal weapon until proven otherwise.

For fuck's sake wearing a fucking angler's summer jacket is a suicide vest if worn by a muslim nutter waving a knife, you silly twit.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Again: the modus operandus of the modern suicide bomber is to lure in as many victims as possible. And often they will have a secondary device to attack first responders as well.

You really are out of your depth and showing what a complete fucking ignoramus you are.

"I would put the cuffs on" yeah, right.

You truly are quite dim. He was already in a roomful of people at the meeting in the hall where they congregated so, going by your logic, that would have been an optimum target if he had a bomb. But then, he travelled to the event by public transport, and at rush hour the targets would have increased exponentially if he had had a bomb.

But he didn't have a bomb , did he, and anyone with an ounce of intelligence would have understood that the moment thy saw him on the ground under those who had successfully overpowered Usman and who disarmed him.

Your drivel is really the stuff of an American adolescent weaned on Hollywood pap.

The fear that he was wearing a bomb vest is just whimsy for a gullible public like you but does serve as a pretext exculpating those intent on extra-judicial killing.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

It's weird how you get off on this sort of thing Herman.

You're my idol ! I want to be full of contradictions like you.

https://teakdoor.com/world-news/1902...ml#post3916552 (Breaking News: Christchurch Shooting)

https://teakdoor.com/world-news/1902...ml#post3916833 (Breaking News: Christchurch Shooting)


And just in case you missed another mass killing on christians....here you go

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...034443533.html

Originally Posted by Troy

There really is no such thing as a fake bomb vest.

Umm...yeah, there really is.

thegent's argument is still obviously absurd though.

'putting the cuffs on'.

Originally Posted by cyrille

What on earth are you prattling on about now, klondick?

Destroying countries and killing in name of removing dictators is a war, not terrorism. Just a double standard.

Then after 20 years of such liberation the world's most mighty man have to fake his friendly visit by a false moustache and highly organized bogus events in order not to be traced up...

President Donald Trump made a surprise Thanksgiving visit to Afghanistan. It was his first time in the country.
It was a top-secret trip involving decoy planes, a false announcement from the White House about his whereabouts, and someone tweeting from his personal Twitter account while he was en route to avoid raising suspicions.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...photos-2019-11

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

You're my idol ! I want to be full of contradictions like you.

There is no contradiction in there at all.

I abhor death and violence so if you want to be like me you could start with stopping getting off over it and the keyboard warrior stuff.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

But he didn't have a bomb , did he, and anyone with an ounce of intelligence would have understood that the moment thy saw him on the ground under those who had successfully overpowered Usman and who disarmed him.

Why are you being such a numbskull.
You don't arrest a convicted terrorist wearing an ankle bracelet! YOU KILL HIM ! Why is it so hard for you to understand that

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Karen Bosch, who was on a bus, said: "He was lying on the floor and there were two loud pops. After the pops he [the suspect] then pulled his jacket back and you could see underneath there was some sort of vest… at that point the police officers backed away.” <

Now tell us little Red Seekingasylum Hood, why do you think they backed off ?
Why is no one else in this world questioning the police action except you and some muslim apologists here ?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Again: the modus operandus of the modern suicide bomber is to lure in as many victims as possible. And often they will have a secondary device to attack first responders as well.

You really are out of your depth and showing what a complete fucking ignoramus you are.

"I would put the cuffs on" yeah, right.

Don't need cuffs, having been beaten up and a fire extinguisher languishing up his arse he won't be waddling off in a hurry; ain't that right, SA!

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

You truly are quite dim. He was already in a roomful of people at the meeting in the hall where they congregated so, going by your logic, that would have been an optimum target if he had a bomb. But then, he travelled to the event by public transport, and at rush hour the targets would have increased exponentially if he had had a bomb.

But he didn't have a bomb , did he, and anyone with an ounce of intelligence would have understood that the moment thy saw him on the ground under those who had successfully overpowered Usman and who disarmed him.

Your drivel is really the stuff of an American adolescent weaned on Hollywood pap.

The fear that he was wearing a bomb vest is just whimsy for a gullible public like you but does serve as a pretext exculpating those intent on extra-judicial killing.

More twaddle...he didn't even need to wear a vest whether armed or not; if those at the scene saw anything that resembled a vest it's enough to open fire.

And let's hope you're not between the cops and the first live vest when it appears on a London street, they wouldn't know whom to shoot first!

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Why is no one else in this world questioning the police action except you and some muslim apologists here ?

Who would they be, then?

Get a grip, nutter.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

You truly are quite dim. He was already in a roomful of people at the meeting in the hall where they congregated so, going by your logic, that would have been an optimum target if he had a bomb.

The responders didn't know that you fucking idiot.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

This guy talks sense in my book.

He sarcastically says something like "Sadiq Khan blames the tory cuts for what this offender did. I suppose the probation services used to escort prisoners around all day to stop them committing further crimes prior to the tory cuts".

That was actually exactly what happened when this offender was previously allowed out.

Oh dear.

Originally Posted by cyrille

"Sadiq Khan blames the tory cuts for what this offender did.

SK blames the Tories cuts being the problem but it was in fact the EU that changed the law. Oh dear.

Jack Merritt was a co-ordinator of the Learning Together programme and Saskia Jones was a volunteer on the programmeBoris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn are among those expected to attend a vigil for the victims of the London Bridge attack in the capital later.
Jack Merritt, 25, and Saskia Jones, 23, will be honoured in a remembrance service at Guildhall Yard in the City.
They were stabbed to death by convicted terrorist Usman Khan, 28, at a prisoner rehabilitation event on Friday.
It comes amid an urgent review of the licence conditions of convicted terrorists released from prison.
A book of condolences will be opened at Guildhall Art Gallery, and members of the public will be invited to lay flowers outside nearby Mansion House.
The service will take place at 11:00 GMT, less than a mile from Fishmongers' Hall, where Usman Khan launched his attack on Friday.
Khan, who was released from prison in December 2018 after serving half of his sentence, was later shot dead by police on London Bridge.

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• Families lead tributes to London attack victims

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Sunday that 74 people jailed for terror offences and released early will have their licence conditions reviewed.
Later that day, Staffordshire Police said a 34-year-old man had been arrested on suspicion of preparation of terrorist acts - but added there was no information to suggest the man was involved in the London Bridge attack.
Mr Merritt and Ms Jones were both University of Cambridge graduates, and had been attending an event for the university's Learning Together programme - which focuses on prisoner rehabilitation - when they were attacked.
Their families have paid tribute to their loved ones.
Image copyrightMETROPOLITAN POLICEImage captionJack Merritt's family said he was 'looking forward to building a future with his girlfriend, Leanne'Ms Jones' family said their daughter, from Stratford-upon-Avon in Warwickshire, had a "great passion" for supporting victims of criminal justice.
"Saskia was a funny, kind, positive influence at the centre of many people's lives," the family statement read.
"She had a wonderful sense of mischievous fun and was generous to the point of always wanting to see the best in all people.
"She was intent on living life to the full and had a wonderful thirst for knowledge, enabling her to be the best she could be.
"This is an extremely painful time for the family. Saskia will leave a huge void in our lives and we would request that our privacy is fully respected."
Image copyrightMETROPOLITAN POLICE HANDOUTImage captionThe family of Saskia Jones said her death "will leave a huge void in our lives"In a statement, Mr Merritt's family described him as a "talented boy" who "died doing what he loved".
"Jack lived his principles; he believed in redemption and rehabilitation, not revenge, and he always took the side of the underdog.
"Jack was an intelligent, thoughtful and empathetic person.
"We know Jack would not want this terrible, isolated incident to be used as a pretext by the government for introducing even more draconian sentences on prisoners, or for detaining people in prison for longer than necessary," the statement read.
Cambridge University's vice-chancellor said he was "devastated to learn that among the victims were staff and alumni".
Prof Stephen J Toope said: "What should have been a joyous opportunity to celebrate the achievements of this unique and socially transformative programme, hosted by our Institute of Criminology, was instead disrupted by an unspeakable criminal act.

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"Among the three people injured, whose identities have not been publicly released, is a member of university staff.
"Our university condemns this abhorrent and senseless act of terror."
Image captionVice-chancellor Prof Stephen J Toope said he only met Jack Merritt once but was "impressed by his charm".Speaking to the BBC, Prof Toope said the fact Mr Merritt was killed by someone he was trying to help "is the greatest tragedy of all".
"I have profound sadness for the family," he added.
London Bridge itself, which was cordoned off for most of the weekend to allow forensic work to be carried out, has been reopened to traffic, although there remains a heavy police presence in the area.








Media captionThe chief executive of Fishmongers Hall, Commodore Toby Williamson describes how his staff fought backToby Williamson, chief executive of Fishmongers' Hall, praised the bravery of his staff who intervened to stop the attacker, hailing their actions as "extraordinary things done by ordinary people".
Among them was Polish chef Lucasz, who was working as a glass cleaner in the basement of the hall.
Mr Williamson told how Lucasz suffered five wounds to his left-hand side as he fended off the knifeman with a narwhale tusk during "about a minute of one-on-one straight combat" - allowing others time to escape danger.
Two others grabbed makeshift weapons such as fire extinguisher before the attacker fled down a staircase before getting trapped in reception.








Media captionVideo footage shows moment London Bridge attacker was apprehendedImage copyrightAFPImage captionFloral tributes have been laid on the south side of London BridgeFlower tributes were placed near the bridge, with one reading: ""I love you forever I am so proud of you."
Another dedicated to victim Jack Merritt read: "Rest in peace Jack. You were a wonderful friend to us."
Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and the Mayor of London Sadiq Khan are expected to be among those at the vigil at Guildhall Yard in the City of London for the victims of the attack.
It follows a service for the victims on Sunday at Southwark Cathedral, which was attended by hundreds of people.
Dr Vin Diwaker, medical director for the NHS in London, said two people injured in the attack remained in a stable condition in hospital, while one had been able to return home.
Image copyrightAFPImage captionVehicles abandoned as the attack unfolded on Friday have since been removed, the Met Police has said.







Media captionThomas Gray spoke to BBC 5 Live about how he helped to stop the London Bridge attackerFriday's attack comes after the UK's terrorism threat level was downgraded on 4 November from "severe" to "substantial", meaning that attacks were thought to be "likely" rather than "highly likely".
The terror threat level is reviewed every six months by the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre, which makes recommendations independent of government.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

For fuck's sake wearing a fucking angler's summer jacket is a suicide vest if worn by a muslim nutter waving a knife, you silly twit.

Indeed, in this context it most certainly is. A loaded suicide vest in police eyes not a fake one and therefore a reason to shoot. It is all about perceived danger rather than actual danger and this man posed a threat to the public. That's how the inquest will go...

Originally Posted by Troy

Indeed, in this context it most certainly is. A loaded suicide vest in police eyes not a fake one and therefore a reason to shoot. It is all about perceived danger rather than actual danger and this man posed a threat to the public. That's how the inquest will go...

And that's how future muslim nutters wearing fake vests will be dispatched - quickly and expertly.

No fucking loss, is it, let's face it.

Reminds me of that scene when our hero points s banana at his adversary and warns him "......careful, it's loaded".

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Reminds me of that scene when our hero points s banana at his adversary and warns him "......careful, it's loaded".

Is that after our hero "puts the cuffs on"?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

I would have put the cuffs on and if he kept kicking out then I would have tasered him and then whacked him into the detention suite with restraints until he calmed down.
It's fucking standard operating procedure

Tasering someone wearing a potential bomb is standard operating procedure?