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    St Vincent de Paul Society, said it would not take any administrative fees for its emergency appeal.

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    Out of every disaster there is a huge winner.

    That is the coonts who collect donations from the punting public to distribute to the poor fukos who have lost their shit.

    Been like that forever and will be like that forever.

    Parasites leaching from unfortunate fukers.

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    261 scientists, experts in climate, fire and weather science, have sent an open letter to the Aust Govt. outlining the increasing effects of climate change on the bush fires and calling for action:

    "Scientists have been warning policy makers for decades that climate change would worsen Australia's fire risk, and yet those warnings have been ignored."

    "Australia has near-to the highest greenhouse gas emissions per person of any country. We need to pull our weight in reducing our emissions, and influence the rest of the world to take urgent and co-ordinated action. Any other policy is window dressing."

    "Scientific evidence unequivocally links human-caused climate change to the increasing risk of frequent and severe bushfires in the Australian landscape,"
    261 scientists sign open letter calling for 'deep cuts' to greenhouse gas emissions - NZ Herald

    Meanwhile B. Azza, aged 60+ of QLD., after spending 10 min Googling: 'Aww nah I don't think climate change is real aye'.

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    But part of the solution to bush fires will be regular burn-offs, adding to the CO2 in the atmosphere.


    How do you reconcile that?

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    Don't ask complicated questions mate.

    It fooks up the climate change Bitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B
    But part of the solution to bush fires will be regular burn-offs, adding to the CO2 in the atmosphere.


    How do you reconcile that?
    Don't need to reconcile it, it's part of the solution as you say, always has been. Controlled burns are a fraction of the CO2 output of the out of control wildfires that have happened.

    Don't tell me you buy that whole 'the Greens stopped the burn offs' bullshit-slash-fake news. That dribble is for the benefit of brainless Boomers like twerry.

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    I thought I was a millium or sumptin. ???

    Oh well, who gives a fuk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twerry
    Oh well, who gives a fuk.

    Apparently a lot of people do.
    But some people think they're insightful for looking ahead in a worrying manner at the next hundred years.


    And yet the pendulum that has swung since the beginning of time still swings at a frequency of millennia, seemingly unconcerned with the issues that mankind frets about over its short lifespan of less than a single century.
    Dear Anti-vaxers: Enjoy your free trial.

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    "Scientific evidence unequivocally links human-caused climate change to the increasing risk of frequent and severe bushfires in the Australian landscape"


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    ^ Scientists call on MPs to urgently reduce Australia's emissions amid bushfire crisis | Australia news | The Guardian

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    Today, China is the world’s largest CO2 emitter – accounting for more than one-quarter of emissions. This is followed by the USA (15%); EU-28 (10%); India (7%); and Russia (5%).

    Australia releasing 1.07% of the world's greenhouse gases.
    So even if every Australian reduced their carbon footprint by 20%, it would have a near naught reduction contribution to the production of the world's greenhouse gases.
    CO₂ and Greenhouse Gas Emissions - Our World in Data
    “Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago”

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    Australia produces and exports a lot of coal.
    Now, presuming that coal fired power stations around the world are not/could not be shut down over night, using Australia black coal is friendlier to the environment then using the brown coal alternative.

    Fact check

    • The claim: Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says Australia exports "by and large" cleaner coal than other countries.
    • The verdict: Experts say Australian export coal is of a higher quality on average compared with other countries, meaning less is needed to generate the same amount of energy. This leads to lower carbon emissions by weight compared with coal from other countries. Mr Turnbull's claim checks out.


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    ME? I drive an LPG car, a waste product, previously burnt as part of the conversion of crude into Petrol/Gas
    Have a Solar Generation installation which generates about 3/4's of our home power needs.
    More when the old hot water system gives up the ghost and it gets replaced with a Solar HW

    The LPG car is going soon, but off-set when the Solar HW system comes.


    I don't discuss climate change, talking points are useless unless you want to look good on social media, or sound impressive around the BBQ.
    I get back to composting, growing food locally, combining my tasks so that I only do 1 drive, not several trips, set the HW system to the lowest thermostat setting, double roof insulation, thermostatically controlled ceiling/attic cooling ... bla bla

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post

    • The claim: Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says Australia exports "by and large" cleaner coal than other countries.

    Thats just a cop-out. Do you want to be run over by an 18 wheeler truck or a just a 10 wheeler?

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    It was 44 degrees today in Perth same as it was back in 1997.

    No one was bitching on about climate change then ?

    Nothing has changed.

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    Perth:
    Annual mean maximum temperature for 1997 = 24.4 °C
    Annual mean maximum temperature for 2019 = 25.7 °C

    Days above 35:
    1997 - 23
    2019 - 34

    "We must be careful not to confuse data with the abstractions we use to analyze them." William James
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    The thing is though,

    Perth has always been so God dam hot in Summer from the get go no one's notices any difference from year to year.

    It's just plain fuking hot.

    Horrible place for three months of the year but great rest of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TizMe View Post
    Perth:
    Annual mean maximum temperature for 1997 = 24.4 °C
    Annual mean maximum temperature for 2019 = 25.7 °C

    Days above 35:
    1997 - 23
    2019 - 34

    "We must be careful not to confuse data with the abstractions we use to analyze them." William James
    Boomers frequently have issues distinguishing between climate and weather.

    It's one of the factors in their remaining so stoically and profoundly ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Horrible place for three months of the year but great rest of the year.
    In 10 years time you'll be saying "Horrible place for four months of the year but great rest of the year." and still saying "Nothing has changed."

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