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    American diplomat's wife to be charged in fatal UK crash

    The wife of a U.S. diplomat will be charged in the U.K. over a fatal wrong-way crash, the British Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said in a statement on Friday.


    British police have said that Harry Dunn was killed after his motorcycle was hit by Anne Sacoolas's car. Sacoolas later returned to the U.S., claiming diplomatic immunity.


    She will be charged with causing death by dangerous driving.

    CPS said that it has started extradition proceedings.




    Chief Crown Prosecutor Janine Smith said in a statement that the Director of Public Prosecutions has met with Dunn's family to explain its decision.


    “May I remind all concerned that criminal proceedings against Anne Sacoolas are now active and that she has a right to a fair trial,” Smith said.

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...fatal-uk-crash

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    They have charged her with this so that they can proceed with the charade of extradition - there is no way in the circumstances of this case she would be convicted of anything other than an offence of causing death by careless driving, a conviction that would almost certainly lead to a non-custodial sentence involving some silly community order.

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    and i'm sure she has been made aware of this, so why doesn't the cowardly irresponsible bitch face up to her responsibilities and return to the uk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    and i'm sure she has been made aware of this, so why doesn't the cowardly irresponsible bitch face up to her responsibilities and return to the uk.
    Exactly. For a mother she isn't really setting a good example to her kids.

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    Gunna be funny when the nasty Septic slappers face gets plastered all over the news paper.

    Fleet street news paper lads are quite up in the art of koontology and hounding down these arseholes.

    I love their work.

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    she is a spy and a protected asset, probably running another illegal op on UK soil without telling British Intelligence officials

    this is what special friends are for

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    why doesn't the cowardly irresponsible bitch face up to her responsibilities and return to the uk.
    Like many here, on TD, she believe herself to be exceptional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    a spy
    A spy handler, a Spy Master or a Master Spy's Mistress?

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    She is not going to UK for.this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Exactly. For a mother she isn't really setting a good example to her kids.
    Sure she is, pointless being privileged if you don't use it when inconvenience knocks.

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    U.S. won't extradite wife of diplomat who killed British teen in wrong-way crash

    The U.S. government has declined a request to extradite a U.S. diplomat's wife who killed a 19-year-old motorcyclist while driving on the wrong side of the road in England, a State Department official said.


    Anne Sacoolas, 42, returned to the United States three weeks after the crash that killed the motorcyclist, Harry Dunn, in August near RAF Croughton in Northamptonshire, which is home to a U.S. Air Force communications station.



    The U.S. State Department has said Sacoolas, the wife of a U.S. intelligence office, cannot be extradited because she is covered by diplomatic immunity.


    "If the United States were to grant the U.K.'s extradition request, it would render the invocation of diplomatic immunity a practical nullity and would set an extraordinarily troubling precedent," a spokesperson for the State Department said Thursday.

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    trump will never allow her to be extradited.

    and he would fire anyone who made a move in that direction.

    not because he thinks she's innocent or because she has diplomatic immunity or that he even gives a shit about her....but because he thinks it will make HIM appear weak.

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    don't think Trump care that much about this case or think about it, you are over-reaching here Ray

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    Might as well get Boris to go on telly and make a show of tearing up that treaty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    render the invocation of diplomatic immunity a practical nullity and would set an extraordinarily troubling precedent,
    Like bombing someone with diplomatic immunity, or protecting CIA operatives with dip passports

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    Those Americans- killing people wherever they go. Is it considered some kind of birthright?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Like bombing someone with diplomatic immunity, or protecting CIA operatives with dip passports
    Stop confusing terrorists with diplomats.

    And you don't honestly think the US is the only country that gives diplomatic passports to intelligence operatives, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Stop confusing terrorists with diplomats.
    I wasn't, the discussion was dip passports

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And you don't honestly think the US is the only country that gives diplomatic passports to intelligence operatives, do you?
    Nope, did I say anything remotely connected?

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    The alleged killer of teenage motorcyclist Harry Dunn is “wanted internationally” after an Interpol Red Notice was issued for her arrest.

    Anne Sacoolas, 42, was charged with causing death by dangerous driving in December, but an extradition request submitted by the Home Office was rejected by US secretary of state Mike Pompeo in January.

    In an email to the 19-year-old’s parents from Northamptonshire Police, seen by the PA news agency, the force said “the wanted circulations should be enacted” should Sacoolas leave the US.

    According to Interpol’s website, a Red Notice is a request to law enforcement worldwide to locate and provisionally arrest a person pending extradition, surrender, or similar legal action.

    The Red Notice is not an international arrest warrant, but are issued for fugitives wanted for prosecution or sentencing.


    The process is normally used so member countries can look out for the suspect, which usually assists with the extradition proceedings.


    Harry was killed when his motorbike crashed into a car outside a US military base in Northamptonshire in August last year.


    Sacoolas, the wife of a US intelligence official based at RAF Croughton, claimed diplomatic immunity following the crash and was able to return to her home country, sparking an international controversy.


    On April 30, a spokeswoman for the US State Department reiterated its position that at the time of the accident, and for the duration of her time in the UK, the driver had immunity from criminal jurisdiction.


    The teenager’s mother said the news had been passed to the parents via their spokesman, Radd Seiger.


    Reacting to the news, Charlotte Charles told the PA news agency: “It’s been a terrible time for us. We are utterly bereft and heartbroken and miss our Harry every minute of every single day.


    “This is important news that Radd has just passed on to us and we are in pieces.


    “I just want to urge Mrs Sacoolas to come back to the UK and do the right thing. Face justice and maybe then our two families can come together after the tragedy and build a bridge.”


    Giving his thoughts on the development, Mr Seiger said: “Northamptonshire Police have confirmed to me that an Interpol Red Notice has now been circulated worldwide in respect of Anne Sacoolas.


    “It renders her a fugitive on the run and it means that she would be arrested and returned to the UK the minute she attempts to set foot out of the USA.


    “Red Notices would not be served on valid diplomats. I would urge the authorities in London and Washington and Mrs Sacoolas’ legal team to come together now to return her to the UK to face the English justice system where she will get a fair trial.


    “I am sure that both families have suffered for far too long and it is time for her to do the right thing and come back.”

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/harry-dunn-suspect-wanted-internationally-after-interpol-red-notice-issued-39196995.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    “Red Notices would not be served on valid diplomats. I would urge the authorities in London and Washington and Mrs Sacoolas’ legal team to come together now to return her to the UK to face the English justice system where she will get a fair trial.
    Foreign office employees have no diplomatic status at 'home', nor anywhere else but the country they are posted to/accredited to work.

    Yup - this should preclude her travelling anywhere . . . and her husband's career is also in the shitter because of this.


    Good follow-up post

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    ‘Raab must tell what he knew’: That suspect in Harry Dunn car crash may be US SPY is ‘astonishing revelation,’ family lawyer says

    5 Feb, 2021 21:25

    "The fact that the woman behind the crash that killed British teen Harry Dunn may be a US spy raises a lot of questions for the government, in a case already doing "terrible damage" to bilateral ties, the family's lawyer told RT. The news that Harry Dunn's suspected killer, Anne Sacoolas, was working for a US intelligence agency became an "astonishing revelation" for the victim's side, Radd Seiger, the Dunn family lawyer, confessed. "We were completely taken aback by it. I have to say it really unsettled the parents, who continue to suffer every single day with all this stress, anxiety and uncertainty."

    A Virginia court, which was considering Sacoolas' application to dismiss a civil claim for damages by the Dunn family, was told on Wednesday that she had been "employed by an intelligence agency in the US" at the time of the fatal road accident in August 2019. The American's car was on the wrong side of the road when it collided with the 19-year-old's motorbike outside a US military base in Northamptonshire, where her husband worked as a CIA operative.

    The woman's barrister insisted that her job was "especially a factor" in her leaving the UK on diplomatic immunity grounds shortly after Dunn's death. Sacoolas didn't believe she would get a fair trial in Britain because of the media attention the case would've inevitably generated, he added.

    After the uncovering of those new facts, "we've got questions that need to be answered. [UK Foreign Secretary] Dominic Raab must come forward and explain what he knew about Mrs. Sacoolas' employment status and when he found out about it," Seiger said.

    Raab had met with Harry Dunn's parents in January 2020 and when they directly asked him about Sacoolas' occupation "he answered that she used to be a State Department employee," he recalled.

    "We're hopeful that the government will step forward and give us those answers as soon as possible," the lawyer explained, as this data could affect Sacoolas's claim to diplomatic immunity.

    However, Seiger said that he understood that even if the American's diplomatic immunity turns out to be invalid it wouldn't necessarily lead to her facing trial at a UK court on charges of causing death by dangerous driving.

    "Extradition is always a political decision rather than a legal one. If the US simply refuse to extradite her, there's nothing anybody can do."


    The UK Home Office addressed the US on Sacoolas' extradition a year ago, but the request was denied by Mike Pompeo, the then-Secretary of State under President Donald Trump. The new administration of President Joe Biden announced last week that it wasn't going to change the decision."


    ‘Raab must tell what he knew’: That suspect in Harry Dunn car crash may be US SPY is ‘astonishing revelation,’ family lawyer says — RT UK News
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    I read somewhere else yesterday that apparently as a spy she doesn't have diplomatic immunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I read somewhere else yesterday that apparently as a spy she doesn't have diplomatic immunity.
    Being a 'spy' or not has nothing to do with diplomatic immunity, it's a matter of accreditation

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    What a valuable intelligence officer she is. Gets exposed by driving on the wrong side of the road and kills somebody in the process

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    What a valuable intelligence officer she is. Gets exposed by driving on the wrong side of the road and kills somebody in the process
    Down, Fido . . . she could also have simply been employed as a secretary

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