Thread: Drone strikes knock out half of Saudi oil capacity, 5 million barrels a day

I don't know why Graham lindsay or anyone else would suggest the U.S. Should take action against Iran over the attack on Saudi Arabia. It was the saudis that were attacked not the U.S.
Why should U.S. servicemen be expected to suffer the consequences.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Trump fires back at Graham over Iran criticism

President Trump on Tuesday night fired back at close ally Sen. Lindsey Graham after the South Carolina Republican criticized the president's past approach to Iran, arguing Tehran viewed it as a "sign of weakness."

"No Lindsey, it was a sign of strength that some people just don’t understand!" Trump tweeted after Graham earlier in the day called on the president to take more decisive action against Iran.

Trump administration officials have blamed Iran for the attack on two oil facilities in Saudi Arabia over the weekend.

Graham issued a statement Tuesday afternoon following a briefing from Vice President Pence on the attack, calling for decisive action and claiming Trump's response to Tehran's downing of a U.S. surveillance drone in June had been insufficient.

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...iran-criticism

Nazi Germany would be so proud of what has become the new USA

Originally Posted by Cujo

Graham lindsay

If Iran is allowed to get away with this, it will feel it can go a step further.

That's why it needs a metaphorical punch in the gob.

Flatten one of their major oil installations, Kharg would be a good choice. I mean really flatten it, so their output is in the shitter for months at least.

Then they won't feel that cutting off 30% of the world's oil is something they could do next.

^ Oh deary me, not another silly warmonger.

Tea & biscuits is the order of the day and then Trump can stop these punitive sanctions for no good reason.

...meanwhile stop supplying Saudis with big-boy's toys.

^
Are the Ruskies & Chinese gonna stop supplying Iran with big-boy's toys as well?

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4...tect-saudi-oil

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) on Wednesday…

"They're going around saying that the attack was 'unprovoked,' " Kaine added, when questioned what "mistruths" the administration was spreading. "The U.S. is provoking Iran. We were in a diplomatic deal with them that allowed them to sell their oil. We pulled out of that deal."

"You don't have to like [Iran], but we are provoking them," he continued.


So, there ya have it folks. ‘twas US provocation of Iran that caused the drone strikes on Saudia Arabian facilities.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ Oh deary me, not another silly warmonger.

Perhaps he could apply for the empty chair left by walrus moustache...

Originally Posted by bowie

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4...tect-saudi-oil

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) on Wednesday…

"They're going around saying that the attack was 'unprovoked,' " Kaine added, when questioned what "mistruths" the administration was spreading. "The U.S. is provoking Iran. We were in a diplomatic deal with them that allowed them to sell their oil. We pulled out of that deal."

"You don't have to like [Iran], but we are provoking them," he continued.


So, there ya have it folks. ‘twas US provocation of Iran that caused the drone strikes on Saudia Arabian facilities.

Well, duh.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ Oh deary me, not another silly warmonger.

What the fuck do you think launching missiles at a foreign country is you moron?

FFS

Originally Posted by bowie

So, there ya have it folks. ‘twas US provocation of Iran that caused the drone strikes on Saudia Arabian facilities.

I guess then that you have not noticed the escalation of the conflict that started when US broke the agreement with Iran and declared a world embargo on Iran.

Originally Posted by lom

I guess then that you have not noticed the escalation of the conflict that started when US broke the agreement with Iran and declared a world embargo on Iran.

Are you realy so naive, or should I say dumb, to believe that those Mullahs stick to agreements ? They will always use their religion beliefs to change the facts and promises.

International Judo Federation bans Iran from all future competitions

Iranian judoka Mollaei still taking refuge in Germany.

The International Judo Federation (IJF) on Wednesday suspended Iran from competing in any future judo competition due to the fact that Iranian judoka "Saeid Mollaei has been instructed by the Iranian authorities and the Iran Judo Federation to withdraw from competing to avoid a potential contest against an Israeli athlete...Sagi Muki," the IJF notice read.

Upon Mollaei's loss at his semi-final bout at the Judo World Championship in Tokyo last month, he was rushed by members of the IJF to Germany, where he revealed that he was instructed to throw his battles to avoid competing against Muki.

In a letter it sent to the IJF in March 15, Iran promised it would "fully respect the Olympic Charter and its non-discrimination principle" Another letter sent on May 8 confirmed once again that Iran "shall fully respect the Olympic Charter and its non-discrimination principle, and the Islamic Republic Iran Federation shall fully comply with the Olympic Charter and the IJF Statute.”
..........

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/In...titions-602148

^
if they can't even keep a little agreement can you imagine what they.....

Trump is doing the right thing so far !

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Are you realy so naive, or should I say dumb, to believe that those Mullahs stick to agreements ? They will always use their religion beliefs to change the facts and promises.

...Did...did you really just conflate an international non-proliferation agreement with Iran with judo competitions?!

Follow the money: https://markets.businessinsider.com/...9-9-1028527077

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Are you realy so naive, or should I say dumb, to believe that those Mullahs stick to agreements ? They will always use their religion beliefs to change the facts and promises.

In contrast to the agreements and treaties of (please no names here)...

Strange, why they just do not believe? (highly likely)

France wants facts before commenting on Saudi attack - foreign ministry

PARIS (Reuters) - France will not rush into commenting on who was behind an attack on Saudi oil installations, a foreign ministry spokeswoman said on Wednesday.

Asked in an online briefing whether Paris considered the Saudi and US analysis that Iran was behind the attack to be credible, the spokeswoman responded: “We share the desire to carefully establish the facts before making any reaction.”

Earlier in the day, French President Emmanuel Macron’s office said Paris would send experts to Saudi Arabia to help with investigations into the attack.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN1W31BV

Pompeo explains Patriot's failure in an attack against Saudi Arabia


US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Mohammed Ibn Salman Al Saud
Photo: Reuters

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo explained why Saudi Arabian air defense systems, including the American Patriot, could not stop the drone attack on the oil facilities of the state-owned company Saudi Aramco. It is reported by the Associated Press .

According to him, sometimes air defense systems around the world show a contradictory result, and even the best of them do not always intercept targets. “We will work to ensure that such attacks are no longer successful,” the US Secretary of State emphasized.

Pompeo added that the United States had never before faced a similar scale of attack, as on Saudi Aramco. He called the attack on the oil company “an act of war”, but did not specify what Washington’s response would be.

According to the agency, Saudi Arabia has several advanced Patriot systems, but it is not known whether they are located near oil facilities in the kingdom. In addition, American air defense systems are designed for "point defense", and not the protection of wide areas.

Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin suggested that Saudi Arabia buy Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems. According to him, Russian air defense systems are able to reliably protect any infrastructure facilities, and it all depends on the “wise state decision” of Riyadh.

On the morning of September 14, a fire broke out in the territory of the plant of the national oil company of Saudi Arabia Saudi Aramco. According to official information, the fire began as a result of an attack by unmanned aerial vehicles. The responsibility for the attack was claimed by the Hussite Yemeni rebels. On September 16, US Senator Lindsay Graham proposed attacking Iran’s oil refineries.

https://lenta.ru/news/2019/09/19/patriot/

Originally Posted by kmart

Follow the money: https://markets.businessinsider.com/...9-9-1028527077

Bit pointless reporting three day-old news.

It's down below $58/bbl after Saudi reported most of their production will be back up by the end of the month.

P.S. Did you consider that it helps Iran if the oil price skyrockets?

Originally Posted by OhOh

But he still convinced and announces that the Iranians did.

The Iranians launched a mix of cruise missiles and drones from an airbase in South West Iran, that flew over Iraqi territory south, past Kuwait where someone actually picked then up and posted the video on an Arabic twitter account. Probably on Youtube by now.

It is indisputable that Iran did it.

The question is whether Saudi would risk responding on its own when it knows its defences are not up to scratch against low flying munitions.

It's also probably why the US has said they will probably tighten sanctions in a couple of days.

Pompeo has been in Saudi today and landed in Abu Dhabi this afternoon. Who knows what message he is delivering, but there is no sign of any American personnel, civilian or otherwise, even being offered flights out, let alone ordered.

So probably no fireworks this weekend.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Some claim that the systems radars only cover 120 degree covering the north east and east. Somebody must have known this and attacked from the south

"Some" are talking out of their arse.

What the Saudis displayed were parts of drones and missiles that *were* shot down.

Whether the existing systems were overwhelmed or just flawed (they certainly were in '91) is probably what's being discussed now.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

What the fuck do you think launching missiles at a foreign country is you moron?

FFS

Quite probably an act of desperation following the sanctions imposed by the US. Sanctions that were applied despite Iran complying with international wishes. Sanctions that Iran have no way of having lifted, or so it would appear.

The sensible thing to do is to ease the sanctions and reduce the risk of an escalation. Dangle a carrot instead of using a stick.

Your "punch on the nose" is the least sensible option. It is the path taken by the weak minded who have little understanding.

I think Iran needs to get serious and send a few nukes to SA,

win-win for everyone,