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    Four European states lose measles eradication status as cases soar: WHO

    Measles cases are skyrocketing in Europe and the disease is surging in four countries previously considered to have eliminated it, including the UK, the World Health Organization (WHO) warned Thursday, urging countries to step up vaccination efforts.


    "Re-establishment of measles transmission is concerning. If high immunisation coverage is not achieved and sustained in every community, both children and adults will suffer unnecessarily and some will tragically die," warned Gunter Pfaff, the head of the WHO's European Regional Verification Commission for Measles and Rubella Elimination.


    The WHO said there were 89,994 cases of measles in 48 European countries in the first six months of 2019, more than double the number in the same period in 2018 when there were 44,175 cases, and already more than the 84,462 cases reported for all of 2018.


    Based on 2018 data, the disease is no longer considered eliminated in the UK, Greece, the Czech Republic and Albania.


    Measles is considered eliminated when there is no endemic disease transmission for 12 months or more in a specific geographic area.


    While the disease is highly contagious, it can be entirely prevented through a two-dose vaccine, but the WHO has in recent months sounded the alarm over vaccination rates.


    The UK reported 953 cases in 2018 and 489 for the first six months of 2019. In the same periods Greece reported 2,193 and 28 cases, Albania 1,466 and 475, and the Czech Republic 217 and 569.


    "Each of these countries are examples that have extremely high national vaccination coverage. So these are not examples of countries that have particularly weak systems," said Kate O'Brien, director of the WHO's Immunization Department.


    "This is the alarm bell that is ringing around the world: being able to achieve high national coverage is not enough, it has to be achieved in every community, and every family for every child," she said.



    - Potentially fatal -


    Measles is a highly contagious airborne infection causing fever, coughing and rashes. While it can be fatal, with 37 deaths reported in the first half of 2019 compared with 74 in 2018, other complications include blindness and, for pregnant women, miscarriage.


    Some 60 percent of patients in Europe in the first half of 2019 were under the age of 19.


    Four countries were home to 78 percent of cases in the first six months of 2019: Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Georgia and Russia -- 60 percent of which were reported in Ukraine alone.


    Meanwhile, Austria and Switzerland were confirmed to have elimination status in 2018, the WHO said.


    Measles has been declared eliminated in 35 of the 53 countries in the WHO's European region for 2018, down from 37 in 2017.


    It is considered endemic in 12 countries, including France and Germany. In the latter, vaccination against the disease will become mandatory in March 2020.


    According to the WHO, more than 20 million deaths have been prevented around the globe between 2000 and 2016 thanks to measles vaccination.


    Worldwide, the number of cases for January 1 to July 31 this year tripled to 364,808, compared with 129,239 during the same seven months last year.


    The highest numbers of cases were reported in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Madagascar, and Ukraine. The United States meanwhile registered its highest number of cases in 25 years.


    The numbers are especially worrying as nine in 10 cases are believed to go unrecorded worldwide, according to WHO.


    O'Brien said that in reality, around 6.7 million deaths each year were linked to measles.


    The disease had been officially eliminated in many countries with advanced healthcare systems, with numbers steadily decreasing until 2016 when a resurgence began.


    According to the WHO, the reasons for people not being vaccinated vary significantly between communities and countries, with a lack of access to quality healthcare or vaccination services hindering some from getting the jabs, while others may be misinformed about vaccines and the need to vaccinate.


    The so-called anti-vax movement -- driven by fraudulent claims linking the MMR vaccine against measles, mumps and rubella, to a risk of autism in children -- has increasingly gained traction.


    Uneven vaccination coverage and gaps and disparities between communities, geographic areas and among age groups has allowed measles to flourish even in countries with high national vaccination rates.

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    And now New Zealand . . . in an unprecedented move health authorities have suggested people do not go to Auckland, especially the heavily Maori and Pacific peoples south Auckland areas around Manukau . . . scary stuff

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    It's because of all these fucking retards that believe all this tin foil shit they read on the internet.

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    What's the TD consensus on mandatory vacinations?
    Should the individuals right to choose trump the communities right to safety?
    I say no.
    People shouldn't have the right to opt out if it puts the wider community at risk.
    If you don't want to be vaccinated fine, but you cannot stay here.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    What's the TD consensus on mandatory vacinations?
    Should the individuals right to choose trump the communities right to safety?
    I say no.
    People shouldn't have the right to opt out if it puts the wider community at risk.
    If you don't want to be vaccinated fine, but you cannot stay here.
    Absolutely.

    They should have concentration camps for retards that won't get vaccinated or vaccinate their kids.

    Spray a few viruses around.

    Let Darwin do the rest.

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    The vaccinations called mmr, don't work.

    All mine were vaccinated yet still caught measles, fortunately they have no underlying medical conditions and lead a healthy lifestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    People shouldn't have the right to opt out if it puts the wider community at risk.
    Agree but some religions prohibit vaccinations. Bet their freedom of right would trump the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    People shouldn't have the right to opt out if it puts the wider community at risk.
    If the "wider community" is vaccinated and the vaccine indeed works as sold, at what point is the "wider community" put at risk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    If the "wider community" is vaccinated and the vaccine indeed works as sold, at what point is the "wider community" put at risk?
    Kids aren't vaccinated until they're 3 so it's the most vulnerable who are at risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Agree but some religions prohibit vaccinations. Bet their freedom of right would trump the issue.
    In my opinion religious beliefs have no weight. Either you get vaccinated or you go in harrys concentration camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Agree but some religions prohibit vaccinations. Bet their freedom of right would trump the issue.
    I disagree strongly with opt outs on any grounds, but especially religious ones.

    Those who deliberately refuse overwhelming medical advice over vaccination or blood transfusion should not be allowed anywhere near hospitals or a doctors surgery. They would like to pick and mix personal health choices that place the general population at risk. In the case of MMR vaccine, it is adults making choices on behalf of very young children, placing their children and the wider public at risk. No excuse for this in a civilised society, especially for religious nut jobs.

    I'm just old enough to remember kids my age in leg irons. now eradicated due to the invention of medical sugar lumps. What kind of future do we want to give our offspring?

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    I'd agree, this idea of religious dictates prohibiting needed medical procedures is their business . . . until it becomes a wider social issue or it harms those who are not in a position to decide themselves what is best.

    You're not allowed blood transfusions? Ok. Don't have them as only you are affected.

    You're not allowed vaccinations? OK. Don't have them but keep yourself and your children away from the general public and the benefit from the 'herd-immunity' which you did not contribute to.



    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    I'm just old enough to remember kids my age in leg irons. now eradicated due to the invention of medical sugar lumps. What kind of future do we want to give our offspring?
    Polio? Yes. I had an older friend who had polio . . so easy to eradicate

    (edited to correct from 'safety' to 'immunity')
    Last edited by panama hat; 30-08-2019 at 05:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    I disagree strongly with opt outs on any grounds, but especially religious ones.

    Those who deliberately refuse overwhelming medical advice over vaccination or blood transfusion should not be allowed anywhere near hospitals or a doctors surgery. They would like to pick and mix personal health choices that place the general population at risk. In the case of MMR vaccine, it is adults making choices on behalf of very young children, placing their children and the wider public at risk. No excuse for this in a civilised society, especially for religious nut jobs.

    I'm just old enough to remember kids my age in leg irons. now eradicated due to the invention of medical sugar lumps. What kind of future do we want to give our offspring?

    An excellent response

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    If the "wider community" is vaccinated and the vaccine indeed works as sold, at what point is the "wider community" put at risk?

    There are people with medical reasons for which they can't safely be vaccinated.

    They are protected by what is known as "herd immunity".

    These stupid arseholes that won't vaccinate are the ones that fuck that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    I disagree strongly with opt outs on any grounds, but especially religious ones
    As do I but in the US forcing for example a Christian Scientist to get vacinated would be a matter for the supreme court to decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    As do I but in the US forcing for example a Christian Scientist to get vacinated would be a matter for the supreme court to decide.
    Not just in the US, but by the time that happens ...


    If even Muslims are allowed, by acceptance of necessity", to have vaccines with a pig's pancreas enzyme then that makes other 'beliefs' look even more ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Kids aren't vaccinated until they're 3 so it's the most vulnerable who are at risk.
    Cujo, maybe things have been changed these past years.


    My Boys received their full set of vacs over the years, first year and a bit they lived in Thailand.

    Day 1 Hep B = Hepatitis B (no idea how the early ones were administered)

    Day 3 BCG = Tuberculosis

    Month 1 Hep B

    Month 2 Hep B and DTPA = Diphtheria, Tetanus and Pertussis (or whooping cough)

    Month 2 Hibtiter = Haemophilus b conjugate vaccine is an active immunizing agent that is used to prevent infection caused by the Haemophilus influenza type b (Hib) bacteria

    Month 2 Polio

    Heaps more jabs/spoons then the ...

    Year 1 MMR = measles, mumps, and rubella

    Most of the above were free through the Thai Hospital System, but I vaguely remember paying for the odd one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    The vaccinations called mmr, don't work.

    All mine were vaccinated yet still caught measles, fortunately they have no underlying medical conditions and lead a healthy lifestyle.
    Yep, didnt work. Maybe its because of mass immigration from countries that are full of every for of illness the west had eradicated.
    Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    As do I but in the US forcing for example a Christian Scientist to get vacinated would be a matter for the supreme court to decide.
    Irrational political correctness in this case though. Religious freedoms are for snowflakes in a civilised society. Still the US is a comparitively young country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Cujo, maybe things have been changed these past years.


    My Boys received their full set of vacs over the years, first year and a bit they lived in Thailand.

    Day 1 Hep B = Hepatitis B (no idea how the early ones were administered)

    Day 3 BCG = Tuberculosis

    Month 1 Hep B

    Month 2 Hep B and DTPA = Diphtheria, Tetanus and Pertussis (or whooping cough)

    Month 2 Hibtiter = Haemophilus b conjugate vaccine is an active immunizing agent that is used to prevent infection caused by the Haemophilus influenza type b (Hib) bacteria

    Month 2 Polio

    Heaps more jabs/spoons then the ...

    Year 1 MMR = measles, mumps, and rubella

    Most of the above were free through the Thai Hospital System, but I vaguely remember paying for the odd one.
    The vaccine schedule for children in Thailand is:

    At birth: BCG (for tuberculosis) and Hepatitis B

    At ages 2, 4 and 6 months: Diptheria-Pertussis-Tetanus (DPT), Oral polio vaccine (OPV), and Hep B booster

    At 9 months: Measles-mumps-rubella

    Around 1 1/2 - 2 years: Japanese B encephalitis (JE) (2 injections 4 weeks apart) and DPT, OPV booster

    Age 2 1/2 - 3 years: JE boster

    Age 4-5 years: DPT, OPV booster

    Age around 7 (grade 1 in school): MMR booster

    Age 12: Tetanus-diptheria booster (pertussis no longer needed at that age)

    Except for the BCG, Hep B and JE, this is similiar to vaccination schedules in Western countries

    The above is what is provided currently by the government health system to all children free of charge. There are additional vaccinations which are advisable and recommended by the Thai Pediatric Society but not currently included in the national program i.e. one would have to pay for these and obtain at a private hospital. These are:


    • rotovirus (common cause of diarrhea in infants and young children)
    • hemophilus influenzae (common cause of pneumaonia in children and also of meningitis)
    • hepatitis A (self-explanatory)
    • varicella (chickenpox)
    • penumococcal vaccine (pneumonia)


    There is no law making vaccination compulsory per se but proof of vaccination will be required to enter school..afaik

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Still the US is a comparitively young country.
    Urgh . . . there aren't any Europeans older than the US . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    The vaccinations called mmr, don't work.

    All mine were vaccinated yet still caught measles, fortunately they have no underlying medical conditions and lead a healthy lifestyle.
    About 3% of vaccinated kids can still get measles if they are exposed to the virus. However, the diseases is pretty much always milder than if they had not been vaccinated.

    Put another way - they are probably walking around, rather than being in a cemetery, *because* of the vaccine.

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    I use to work at a place for children who had contracted Rubella from the mother during pregnancy. Most were deaf, blind and in wheelchairs with constant muscle spasms. It was absolutely heart breaking to see these poor little children. I would reccommend it as a compulsory visit for all anti vaxxers.
    As far as I am aware in Australia you cannot get govt child benefits or go to kindergarten if unvaccinated. There is a push to be banned from public schools as well.

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    Fkn anti-vaxxers and their 'feelz' over science bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Fkn anti-vaxxers and their 'feelz' over science bullshit.
    Agreed.

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