Thread: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges.

Originally Posted by tomcat

...in which case Epstein should be revived and Maxwell hanged with a short rope...

Doesn't matter, one way or t'other she'll be prevented from squealing. Money and influence can go a long way, as demonstrated with Epstein, even though some would like everyone else to believe he topped himself.

I wonder if they will televise this trial? It will be interesting to see what comes out.

A US appeals court on Monday dealt Ghislaine Maxwell a blow by refusing to block the release of a deposition she gave concerning her relationship with the late financier and registered sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

The 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan said there was a presumption the public had a right to see Ms Maxwell's 418-page deposition, which was taken in April 2016 for a now-settled civil defamation lawsuit against her.

In an unsigned order, the court also said US District Judge Loretta Preska in Manhattan did not abuse her discretion in rejecting Ms Maxwell's "meritless arguments" that her interests superseded that presumption.

Lawyers for Ms Maxwell did not immediately respond to requests for comment, including whether they plan a further appeal.

Ghislaine Maxwell loses bid to keep Epstein deposition secret | The Independent

Luckily, somebody watches over our peace...

International Peace Institute president Terje Rød-Larsen resigns after Jeffrey Epstein links revealed
By Kathleen Calderwood

The president of the International Peace Institute (IPI) has resigned after it was revealed he had links to convicted US sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Key points:
The IPI board said Epstein's crimes were "hideous"

It will "re-donate" every dollar received from the disgraced financier

IPI vice-president Dr Adam Lupel has been appointed as acting president and CEO

Norwegian media reported earlier this month that IPI president Terje Rød-Larsen secured a personal loan from Epstein in 2013.

A report last year noted the organisation received a total of $US650,000 ($922,000) in donations from Epstein's foundations between 2011 and 2019.

The international think tank is chaired by former prime minister Kevin Rudd, who joined the board in 2014.

A statement from the board said the disgraced financier's crimes were "hideous" and Mr Rød-Larsen had apologised for his poor judgement.

"The notion that IPI would be in any way engaged with such an odious character is repugnant to the institution's core values," the statement read.

The IPI board convened an extraordinary meeting to accept Mr Rød-Larsen's resignation.

Current vice-president Dr Adam Lupel has been appointed acting president and CEO.

The board said the group's finances would be audited immediately to make sure all Epstein foundation donations were identified.

Kevin Rudd says he "acted swiftly" to redirect donations the organisation received from Epstein.(The Killing Season)

"In November 2019, at the initiative of the Chair and with support of the Board, IPI announced it would donate a sum equivalent to any donations received from Epstein's foundations to programs that support victims of human trafficking and sexual assault," the statement also read.

"Epstein's foundations collectively donated more than $30 million to dozens of charitable and teaching institutions prior to his death.

"Although many institutions have decided to keep some or all of these donations, the IPI Board takes the strict view that every dollar should be re-donated."

The statement went on to say the Institute's financial officers had confirmed there were no payments ever made to Epstein, "despite some press speculation to the contrary".

Mr Rudd addressed the reports in a statement on Wednesday, saying he acted swiftly on two separate occasions to forward funds received from Epstein to charity when he learned of them in November 2019.

He said it was important to remember that Epstein's foundations were donating millions of dollars to "dozens and dozens of charitable organisations" and he had never "to his knowledge" met him.

The 50-year-old IPI describes itself as an "independent, international not-for-profit think tank dedicated to managing risk and building resilience to promote peace, security, and sustainable development".

Mr Rød-Larsen had a lengthy career working in the Middle East.

In 1993 he was appointed ambassador and special adviser for the Middle East peace process to the Norwegian Foreign Minister.

Three years later he became Norway's deputy prime minister and minister for planning and cooperation, and from 1999 to 2004 he was United Nations special coordinator for the Middle East peace process and the UN secretary-general's personal representative to the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Palestinian Authority.

In 1999 he was appointed the UN secretary-general's special envoy to Lebanon.

In that role he negotiated with Syria, Lebanon and Israel to broker a deal on the withdrawal of Israeli and Syrian troops.

International Peace Institute president Terje Rod-Larsen resigns after Jeffrey Epstein links revealed - ABC News

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In 2020 media revealed that he Rød-Larsen had borrowed 130,000 USD from Jeffrey Epstein.[11] During the week that preceded 18 October 2020, the Norwegian Foreign Ministry requested that Rød-Larsen clarify the ties between Epstein and Rød-Larsen.[12] On 21 October Dagens Næringsliv said that [sometime] after [the money was borrowed], Rød-Larsen directed IPI to pay 100,000 dollars to Epstein.[13] On 29 October 2020, Rød-Larsen resigned the presidency of the foundation (IPI).[14]

Terje Rod-Larsen - Wikipedia

How Jeffrey Epstein Used Powerful Friends to Make $158m After His Conviction

BY JACK ROYSTON ON 1/27/21

A billionaire financier entered into a $158 million business relationship with Jeffrey Epstein after his conviction on sex offences because famous friends had not shunned the pedophile, a report has found.

Leon Black announced this week that he would retire as CEO of Apollo Management following revelations that he paid Epstein the money between 2012 and 2017.

However, law firm Dechert, which produced the report, found Black only let Epstein into his affairs because he had lied about his criminal past and because "numerous prominent figures" were still friends with him.

Dechert's investigation on behalf of Apollo found that Black had no links to Epstein's criminal conduct.

It does, however, shed light on important aspects of the Epstein story, including how the financier, who died in 2019, made his money and how he embedded himself in the lives of his contacts, attempting to make himself indispensable.

Theories about Epstein's activities have included suggestions that he was an Israeli spy or that he used video tapes of the rich and powerful as blackmail.

The report suggests Epstein did provide valuable financial advice that saved Black hundreds of millions of dollars.

However, it also uncovered attempts by Epstein to demand millions more than he was owed through a flurry of emails, "including by referencing personal matters that Black had shared with Epstein in confidence."

The report stressed: "There is no evidence that those matters had any relationship to any of Epstein's criminal activity or to any of Black's payments to Epstein."

'Well known businessmen, political figures, diplomats, scientists and celebrities'
Dechert found Black was introduced to Epstein in the mid-1990s by a mutual friend and initially thought he "was very intelligent and knowledgeable" about taxation and estate planning.

The report stated: "Black also was impressed by Epstein's connections to many prominent figures in business, politics and science."

It added: "Throughout Epstein and Black's relationship, Black viewed Epstein as a friend worthy of his trust.

"They attended social events together, Black confided in Epstein on personal matters and Black introduced Epstein to his family.

"Black regularly visited Epstein's townhouse in New York to either discuss business or to meet other prominent guests who were visiting Epstein, including well known businessmen, political figures, diplomats, scientists and celebrities."

The New York townhouse is one of the places where Virginia Giuffre claims she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew after being trafficked by Epstein. The prince denies the allegation.

Black's own pronouncements echo Andrew's description of Epstein's "most extraordinary ability to bring extraordinary people together" at dinner parties for "academics, politicians, people from the United Nations."

Asked by the BBC in 2019 whether he regretted the friendship, the Duke of York said: "Now, still not and the reason being is that the people that I met and the opportunities that I was given to learn either by him or because of him were actually very useful."

The Dechert report said Black knew Epstein "often employed attractive women," but "did not believe that any of the women in Epstein's employ were underage."

It went on: "Black has no recollection of ever seeing Epstein with an underage woman at any time."

'Black believed the severity of Epstein's offenses was limited to a single instance'
Black began making payments to Epstein four years after his 2008 conviction for "solicitation of prostitution and procuring a person under 18 for prostitution."

The Apollo CEO said he regretted employing him but had been given a false story about Epstein's crimes.

The report said: "Black was aware of Epstein's guilty plea and understood from Epstein that these offenses arose out of a single instance in which Epstein had received a massage from a 17-year-old prostitute.

"According to Black, Epstein had told him that the woman had shown Epstein false identification suggesting that she was not underage."

Black appears to have said he was drawn back to Epstein in part because the convicted pedophile had maintained his relationships with other prominent figures.

The report states: "Following Epstein's prison sentence, Black believed that Epstein had served his time and that it would not be inappropriate to maintain a personal and professional relationship with Epstein.

"This decision appears to have been informed by at least three factors. First, Black believed that the severity of Epstein's offenses was limited to a single instance of soliciting a 17-year-old prostitute that Black believed Epstein had mistakenly understood was older.


"Second, numerous prominent figures, including CEOs, banking institutions, leading figures in technology, science and business, diplomats and Nobel laureates, continued to maintain social and business relationships with Epstein."

Among the prominent figures he was seen with after his conviction was Prince Andrew, who was photographed going for a walk with the financier in New York in 2010.

'Black knew Epstein was greedy and a self-promoter'
The first payment to Epstein in 2012 came in return for solving a complex taxation problem. Black was facing a $500 million tax liability on his estate and Epstein found a solution.

The report said: "Witnesses differed on what the value of the estate tax would have been today or in the future if the issues had not been resolved, but they believed the estate tax liability could have been as much as $1 billion or more."

Dechert repeatedly stated that the witnesses it interviewed said Epstein had provided services of significant value to Black.

However, the report also paints a picture of a difficult adviser whom Black struggled to cut off because Epstein kept finding ways to make himself valuable.

The report said: "Black knew Epstein was greedy and a self-promoter and was likely attempting to prove his own value.

"At the same time, Black also felt that Epstein was identifying genuine issues that needed to be resolved.

"As their business relationship continued, Black wanted to 'wean' the Family Office off Epstein so that he was less reliant on Epstein's services, but Black found it difficult to do so because, from Black's perspective, Epstein was identifying and solving significant issues that were not being addressed by other employees or advisers."

The connection was finally broken when Epstein demanded huge sums of money for a project he had helped, but which Black's other advisers said he had not originated.

When Black refused, Epstein hit him with a barrage of emails designed to "pressure Black to provide greater compensation."

The report said: "Epstein's communications also included extended warnings about a number of perceived issues affecting the Family Office and Black's estate planning, coupled with assertions that Epstein no longer wished to play any role in resolving those issues.

"Epstein also would invoke his friendship with Black in those emails, including by referencing personal matters that Black had shared with Epstein in confidence, although there is no evidence that those matters had any relationship to any of Epstein's criminal activity or to any of Black's payments to Epstein."

'Both Apollo and I condemn Mr. Epstein's reprehensible conduct'
Black has stated that he will remain chairman of Apollo, which he co-founded. He is also chairman of the board of trustees at the Museum of Modern Art in New York City. Newsweek has contacted MoMA for comment.

In a letter to Apollo partners, Black said: "It is important to emphasize that both Apollo and I condemn Mr. Epstein's reprehensible conduct in the strongest possible terms, and, as I have previously stated, I deeply regret having had any involvement with Mr. Epstein."

He added: "Having reflected at great length on my professional relationship with Mr. Epstein, a relationship that I profoundly regret, and having discussed the matter with my family, I have also decided that one way I can begin to address the grievous error of having maintained a professional relationship with Mr. Epstein is to pledge $200 million towards initiatives that seek to achieve gender equality and protect and empower women, including supporting maternal health, women in finance and the arts, in the classroom, in laboratories and in the field of entrepreneurship, as well as helping survivors of domestic violence, sexual assault and human trafficking."

How Jeffrey Epstein Used Powerful Friends to Make $158m After His Conviction

A lawsuit names Jeffrey Epstein, Maxwell and alleges actions sinister even by his standards

MARCH 30, 2021

In early 2008, as financier Jeffrey Epstein’s lawyers were waging what would become a successful campaign to get the Justice Department to drop its sex trafficking case against their client, Epstein and his purported madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, were allegedly raping a 26-year-old South Florida real estate broker who claims in a lawsuit filed last week that Epstein trafficked her to other men, including a local judge.

The story stands out among a number of civil claims that have been filed in recent months against the late financier’s estate and his co-executors, Darren Indyke and Richard Kahn. While most of the allegations involving Epstein and his associates follow a similar pattern involving how victims were recruited and abused, the case filed March 22 involves allegations far more sinister than others.

The woman, who is identified only as “Jane Doe,” claims that Epstein and Maxwell repeatedly raped her in front of her 8-year-old son at a hotel in Naples, Florida, in early 2008; that they trafficked her to have sex with a number of other men, including an unnamed local judge; and that Epstein forced her to undergo vaginal surgery so that he could market her as a virgin to one of their “high-profile” clients.
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The woman claims that in the middle of 2007, Maxwell, who went by the nickname “G-Max,” took her passport for “safekeeping,’’ and Doe later learned that Epstein kept it in a locked box inside his Palm Beach estate, the lawsuit says.

About six months later, Doe, “persuaded by the persistent efforts of Maxwell,” agreed to consider working for Epstein. A trained hairdresser, Doe said she was hired to go to Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion in January 2008 to cut Epstein’s hair. When she arrived, Epstein was naked and, with Maxwell’s assistance, brutally raped her, according to the lawsuit.

At the time, the woman recalls Epstein had guns in his possession which were displayed to her in order to frighten and intimidate her.

After the assault, Epstein alleged gave Doe $200.

She attempted to leave, telling them she intended to report the rape. Maxwell, in response, claimed that she had already called the police. Two men who claimed to be police officers arrived at Epstein’s mansion and threatened to arrest Doe for prostitution, to take away her son and deport her, according to the suit.

Then Epstein and Maxwell ordered Doe to drive with them in Doe’s vehicle, picking up her son along the way. During the trip, they pulled off the side of the road to a waterway filled with alligators.

“Epstein then ushered the plaintiff to the body of water and told her in explicit detail that — as had happened to other women in the past, according to the pair — she would end up in this body of water and be devoured should she ever reveal what Epstein had done to her,’’ the suit says.

At a hotel in Naples, over a period of days, Doe was repeatedly raped by Epstein and Maxwell in the presence of her young son, she said.

Over the next five months, until May 2008, they threatened and intimidated her by emphasizing Epstein’s influence over the FBI, the U.S. Office of Homeland Security’s Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Florida state and local law enforcement, according to the lawsuit.
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She attempted to leave, telling them she intended to report the rape. Maxwell, in response, claimed that she had already called the police. Two men who claimed to be police officers arrived at Epstein’s mansion and threatened to arrest Doe for prostitution, to take away her son and deport her, according to the suit.

Then Epstein and Maxwell ordered Doe to drive with them in Doe’s vehicle, picking up her son along the way. During the trip, they pulled off the side of the road to a waterway filled with alligators.

“Epstein then ushered the plaintiff to the body of water and told her in explicit detail that — as had happened to other women in the past, according to the pair — she would end up in this body of water and be devoured should she ever reveal what Epstein had done to her,’’ the suit says.

At a hotel in Naples, over a period of days, Doe was repeatedly raped by Epstein and Maxwell in the presence of her young son, she said.

Over the next five months, until May 2008, they threatened and intimidated her by emphasizing Epstein’s influence over the FBI, the U.S. Office of Homeland Security’s Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Florida state and local law enforcement, according to the lawsuit.

She attempted to leave, telling them she intended to report the rape. Maxwell, in response, claimed that she had already called the police. Two men who claimed to be police officers arrived at Epstein’s mansion and threatened to arrest Doe for prostitution, to take away her son and deport her, according to the suit.

Then Epstein and Maxwell ordered Doe to drive with them in Doe’s vehicle, picking up her son along the way. During the trip, they pulled off the side of the road to a waterway filled with alligators.

“Epstein then ushered the plaintiff to the body of water and told her in explicit detail that — as had happened to other women in the past, according to the pair — she would end up in this body of water and be devoured should she ever reveal what Epstein had done to her,’’ the suit says.

During the time that the assaults are alleged to have occurred, Epstein had hired a roster of powerful lawyers to help defend him against charges that he had molested and assaulted at least three dozen girls, most of them 14 to 16 years old, at his Palm Beach estate. While federal prosecutors prepared a 53-page indictment, Epstein’s lawyers, including famed prosecutor turned defense lawyer Kenneth Starr, appealed to the Department of Justice in Washington, urging them to intervene in the South Florida case.

They argued that Epstein’s offenses did not rise to the level of federal offense. The then-U.S. attorney in Miami, Alexander Acosta, ultimately signed off on a plea deal in which Epstein and a number of others were given federal immunity. Epstein was instead sentenced in state court on prostitution charges.

The multimillionaire was sentenced on June 30, 2008, and immediately sent to the Palm Beach County jail, where he would serve 13 months, much of it on work release at a nonprofit company that Indyke helped him set up in West Palm Beach, records show. Epstein completed his sentence in 2009.

Lawsuit alleges sex abuse, intimidation by Epstein, Maxwell | Miami Herald

Sounds like opportunistic BS to me.
But should be easy enough to prove with the son as a witness.

Why so harsh on them? Cannot they be rewarded?


Jeffrey Epstein jail guards get deferred prosecution deal in suicide case
PUBLISHED FRI, MAY 21 2021

KEY POINTS
Two corrections officers accused of failing to keep watch over inmate Jeffrey Epstein the night he killed himself will avoid potentially serving time in jail by striking a deferred prosecution deal with prosecutors.

The guards, Tova Noel and Michael Thomas, admitted that they “willfully and knowingly” filled out documents falsely to suggest that they had been checking Epstein’s cell on schedule.

Epstein, a former friend of ex-Presidents Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, was awaiting trial on child sex trafficking charges when he died in a Manhattan jail cell.

His alleged procurer Ghislaine Maxwell is in jail awaiting trial in her own case.

Two federal jail guard officers accused of failing to keep watch over sex criminal Jeffrey Epstein the night he killed himself have reached an agreement with prosecutors that will lead to the dismissal of criminal charges against them if they comply with certain conditions.

Sen. Ben Sasse, a Nebraska Republican who is a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, quickly blasted the deal as a slap in the face to Epstein’s victims, and called the agreement the latest example of the U.S. Justice Department “embarrassing itself” in an Epstein-related case.

Tthe guards, Tova Noel and Michael Thomas, will be kept under pre-trial supervision for six months as part of a deferred prosecution agreement revealed late Friday afternoon.

They also must perform 100 hours of community service “preferably in an area related to the criminal justice system,” federal prosecutors told Judge Analisa Torres in a letter filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.

And the defendants must “cooperate with a pending Department of Justice Office of Inspector General review” of the circumstances of Epstein’s death in August 2019 “by providing truthful information related to their employment by the Bureau of Prisons,” the letter said.

In the agreement, prosecutors wrote, Noel and Thomas, admitted that they “willfully and knowingly” filled out documents falsely claiming that they had regularly checked on Epstein’s and other prisoners’ cells in the special housing unit in the Manhattan Correctional Centers as scheduled the night the 66-year-old money manager hung himself.

Epstein, a multi-millionaire whose former high-profile friends included ex-Presidents Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, was being held without bail in the jail while awaiting trial on federal child sex trafficking charges.

If they abide by the deal’s terms, prosecutors will drop their pending criminal case against the guards, who were arrested in November 2019 on charges of conspiracy and filing false records.

But if they do not comply with the agreement, the guards will face a trial or consider whether to plead guilty.

Torres has to sign off on the deal, which already has been approved by the federal Pretrial Services division.

Prosecutors told the judge that they determined “after a thorough investigation, and based on the facts of this case and the personal circumstances of the defendants” that “that the interests of justice will best be served by deferring prosecution.”

Prosecutors asked Torres to schedule a video-conference hearing for next Tuesday for the deferred prosecution agreement to be set in motion.

A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York, which is prosecuting the case, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

A month before his death, Epstein was briefly placed on suicide watch after officers found him on the floor of his cell with a bedsheet tied around his neck.

On Aug. 9 and Aug. 10, 2019, Noel and Thomas were responsible for checking in on Epstein at a series of intervals.

But Noel and Thomas did not complete all of their assigned check-ins on Epstein, prosecutors have said.

Instead, they surfed the internet in the common area of the special housing unit of the federal lockup, browsing sports news and sales of furniture and motorcycles, an indictment charged. They also appear to have been asleep for about two hours during their shift.

Epstein was in a cell just 15 feet or so from the guards’ desk, the indictment says.

Gerald Lefcourt, a former lawyer for Epstein, told CNBC that, “Deferred prosecutions are usually very hard to come by.”

″It’s usually a sign that the prosecution’s case is not how it originally appeared,” said Lefcourt.

The lawyer played a key role more than a decade ago in cutting a controversial non-prosecution deal with the Miami’s United States Attorney in which Epstein avoided federal criminal charges related to his interactions with underage girls. Epstein had an obsession with receiving multiple daily massages, and a number of women have come forward to claim he sexually abused them during those sessions.

In that case, Epstein agreed instead to plead guilty in 2008 to Florida state charges that included soliciting sex for pay from an underage girl.

Epstein served 13 months in jail for that case.

Asked if he thought the deferred prosecution agreement was appropriate in the guards’ case, Lefcourt demurred, saying, ″I don’t know the facts.”

Sasse, the Nebraska senator, in a statement, condemned the agreement, saying, “Apparently the Justice Department hasn’t finished embarrassing itself yet.

“This is unacceptable. Epstein’s victims have been failed at every single turn. One hundred hours of community service is a joke — this isn’t traffic court,” Sasse said.

“The leader of an international child sex trafficking ring escaped justice, his co-conspirators had their secrets go to the grave with him, and these guards are going to be picking up trash on the side of the road,” the senator said.

“The public deserves a full report of the Bureau of Prisons’ failures and Main Justice needs to redouble its work to bring every one of Epstein’s co-conspirators to justice.”

Sasse last November criticized the Justice Department after an internal department investigation found that Alex Acosta, the federal prosecutor who had negotiated the non-prosecution deal with Lefcourt, “exercised poor judgment” in that agreement. But the probe concluded that the prosecutor had not broken the law or engaged in professional misconduct.

“Letting a well-connected billionaire get away with child rape and international sex trafficking isn’t ‘poor judgment’ — it is a disgusting failure,” Sasse said in a statement in November.

Acosta resigned as Trump’s Labor secretary in July 2019 on the heels of Epstein’s sex trafficking arrest after outrage over the non-prosecution deal.

The Miami Herald in late 2018 reported that at the time of the deal in 2007, Acosta “agreed, despite federal law to the contrary that the deal would be kept from the victims.”

Epstein’s suicide sent shockwaves all over the world and quickly sparked a slew of politically charged conspiracy theories.

Days after his death, then-Attorney General William Barr excoriated the jail where Epstein was being held, vowing that the Justice Department will “get to the bottom of what happened.”

Lawyers for Epstein’s alleged procurer, the British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, recently have complained to a federal judge that she is being “overmanaged” in the Brooklyn federal jail where she is being detained without bail.

Maxwell’s lawyers said her sleep is regularly interrupted by guards using flashlights to make sure she has not killed herself.

Maxwell, who was arrested last summer, has pleaded not guilty in the case.

She is charged with sex trafficking, recruiting underage girls to be sexually abused by Epstein, and perjury.

Jeffrey Epstein jail guards get deferred prosecution deal

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Why so harsh on them? Cannot they be rewarded?

Just because you would reward them, don't expect others to agree.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Just because you would reward them, don't expect others to agree.

Shows he didnt even read the first 1/4 of the article that he posted, because it explains why.

He loves those headlines and then 'asks questions'. Disingenuously, but it's his shtick.

Putin is overheard making light of rape -

Putin is overheard making light of rape - Europe - International Herald Tribune - The New York Times

^Why you do not place here the full article that the esteemed members - who do not possess the NYT membership (like you surely) - would learned the whole story?

Don't they write how the dangerous Mr. Putin took a trip to the Jeffrey Island on Lolita Express? (we are here on Jeffrey Epstein thread, aren't we?) Wasn't it that time when Vlado was invited by GWB on his ranch and the weekend was quite quiet (really boring)? GW was not free to fly, Laura had some other plans for him.

Never mind it was some 15 years ago and they tell us only now... In Czech they discovered that Vlado exploded an "arsenal" (is it the same meaning as Joe had on his mind?) 7 years ago and we know it only now after the Czech head of national security was decorated in the high floors of Langley (and his subordinated PM as well).

But perhaps they (NYT) forgot to tell us (perhaps later) how was the relationship of Jeffrey with Bill Gates the wife was not very happy with...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

^Why you do not place here the full article that the esteemed members

Originally Posted by panama hat

Shows he didnt even read the first 1/4 of the article that he posted, because it explains why.

Originally Posted by panama hat

He loves those headlines and then 'asks questions'. Disingenuously, but it's his shtick.

That's why.

^ Precisely

Maybe klondick thought his rather transparent trolling formula would work forever.

Seems a bit naive.

^Now I am confused about your blame which article I did not read? Is it the one where somebody claims that Bill Gates wanted to get the Nobel Prize? And that they say that's why he met the Norwegian guy in his house, the same one who awarded the prize to Obama what the other members were not very happy with (it was mentioned here already once). Now I really do not know...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Now I am confused

. . . a common state of affairs for you and <no names, please>

Why was Xi involved in a sex trafficking case in Xian in 1983? Is this what the topic is about? Xi and his friend <no names here, please> and a nightclub. Serious. Damning. Almost mirrors Putin's 'alleged' sex scandal with an Armenian Rentboy in Vladivostok in <no dates here, please>, nicely covered up.

Bill Gates 'turned a blind eye to Jeffrey Epstein's reputation because he thought he could get him a Nobel Peace Prize' - as it's revealed they both attended a 2013 meeting at the home of ex Norwegian Nobel Committee chairman

Gates and Epstein went to the Strasbourg home of Thorbjorn Jagland in 2013

Jagland said Gates asked for the meeting to learn more about the Council of Europe and its work in healthcare

They arrived together, Jagland said, but Epstein did not take part in the talks

He however introduced Gates to IPI - a think tank he has since given millions to

Jagland, at the time, was the chairman of Norway's Nobel Committee

Details of the meeting emerged as former Gates staffers claimed he thought Epstein could help him get the Nobel Peace Prize

Epstein had already been convicted of soliciting a child prostitute when Gates met him

The staffers say they knew the association could harm Bill and Melinda's reputation but they ignored it

Gates, through a spokesman, denies ever seeking the Nobel Peace Prize

He said he has never attended 'parties' with Epstein and only ever used him to fundraise for worthy philanthropic causes

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UK Home | Daily Mail Online

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Bill Gates

Luckily you have his 5G chip installed in your new hip . . . they replaced the one you had put in place by Vlad <please, no names here>

CSI:TD needs to get on the case.

A modeling agent who was close to disgraced U.S. financier Jeffrey Epstein was found dead Saturday in his French jail cell, where he was being held in an investigation into the rape and sex trafficking of minors, according to the Paris prosecutor’s office.

Paris police are investigating Jean-Luc Brunel’s death at the historic La Sante prison in Paris, the prosecutor’s office said.

Jean-Luc Brunel, arrested on suspicion of supplying girls to Epstein, found dead in French jail - The Economic Times

Ghislaine Maxwell, Accomplice to Jeffrey Epstein, Sentenced to 20 Years in Prison for Sex Trafficking

She’s 60

Well deserved.