Thread: Assange in hospital

Well his cockless snitch is out of nick. Owes a few quid though.

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Last night Julian Assange called me. Here is what we talked about

By Yanis Varoufakis
March 25, 2020

Last night, immediately after our first DiEM25 TV event, my phone rang. It was Julian. From prison. It was not that first time that he honoured me deeply by using the few phone calls prison allows him to make to call me. Like every other such occasion, when I unexpectedly recognise his voice a torrent of emotions comes flooding in. Guilt, primarily, at the thought that, the moment the line is disconnected, he will remain there – in the exceedingly dark place to which he has been confined because of a decision he made long ago to help the rest of us grasp what the powers-that-be have been doing on our behalf without our knowledge or consent.

Julian wanted to talk about the effects of Covid-19 on the world we live in and, of course, on his case. He remarked that Jeremy Corbyn’s election manifesto, that the establishment had lambasted for being too radical, now seems unreasonablely moderate. We laughed at the audacity of those who were telling the people of Britain that it was irresponsible to spend a few tens billions on providing proper funding to the NHS and social care for all, on turning broadband into a public utility, and on taking the railways into public ownership to make them work properly – the very same people who, now that big business and capitalism more generally, are in serious trouble seem to have discovered the money tree, announcing trillions to be pumped into the economy. Julian did not know (how could he, when the prison authorities deny him access to newspapers, the internet, even to BBC Radio 4?) that Boris Johnson had, earlier yesterday, announced the temporary nationalisation of the railways – seeing that privateers can never provide a decent service in the midst of a national emergency.

After a few minutes during which we allowed ourselves to bask in the neoliberals’ Waterloo, in the hands of some RNA that the system could simply not cope with without abandoning all its certainties, we discussed what this means for the future. Julian said, quite correctly, that this new phase of the crisis is, at the very least, making it clear to us that anything goes – that everything is now possible. To which I added that anything ranges from the best to the worst possible developments. Whether the epidemic helps deliver the good or the most evil society will depend, of course, on us – on whether progressives manage to band together. For if we do not, just like in 2008 we did not, the bankers, the spivs, the oligarchs and the neofascists will prove, again, that they are the ones who know how not to let a good crisis go to waste.

Will we succeed? Julian had a hopeful comment on this: At the very least, transnational organisations like Wikileaks and DiEM25 had honed the digital tools for online debates and campaigns well before Covid-19 came on the scene. In some measure, we are better prepared than others.

Then we talked about his case. His prison conditions are deteriorating. Now that visits have stopped, his isolation is getting worse. His lawyers are about to petition the court for bail. If any prisoner’s health at Belmarsh High Security prison is in jeopardy from Covid-19 infection, it is Julian’s. Will the court grant him bail? Unlikely. Will the new crisis change the odds of his extradition? We agreed that the answer to the last question is: probably, but only a little – now that the national security complex in the US and in the UK have things to worry about that did not feature a few weeks ago.

Our conversation lasted ten minutes and one second. Then the prison warden cut the line. The one man who knows the perils and pains of isolation better than all of us, had emerged from it to give me, us, a ten-minute lesson in how not to lose it while in confinement.

Make no mistake dear reader: Julian is struggling to keep his faculties, not to lose his mind. For hours every day in solitary he fights the darkness and the despair. When he sounds lucid, funny even, on the phone it is so because he has worked for 20 hours in anticipation of the moment when he will have to communicate his side of the story, his thoughts, to the outside world. No one should have to live that way.

And so it is that, now that we are all in some state of isolation, Julian’s plight – as well as insights – must give us pause, and cause, to discover in ourselves the power, and the solidarity, necessary to ensure that this crisis is not wasted – that the inane and corrupt powers-that-be do not end up, once again, the beneficiaries.

>> Last night Julian Assange called me. Here is what we talked about

Julian Assange cannot be extradited to the US to face charges of espionage and of hacking government computers, a British judge has decided.


Lawyers for US authorities are to appeal against the ruling, which rejected arguments that the WikiLeaks co-founder would not get a fair trial in the US but blocked extradition on the basis that procedures in prisons there would not prevent him from potentially taking his own life.

Julian Assange cannot be extradited to US, British judge rules | Julian Assange | The Guardian

bet they would send the idiot back in a flash if the americans agreed to extradite the woman who drove into that young lad outside the airbase and promptly was spirited out of the uk by the spooks claiming she had diplomatic immunity.

Big win for Assange but it's far from over.

If he gets any kind of bail , they should get ready to stuff him into the trunk of a car and then sneak him onto a plane bound for Moscow. That's the only place he will be safe.

Fantastic to see justice at least starting to peep out.

Although what Assange did was right on the margins....somewhere on the interface between journalism and idiotically revealing names of Western agents and local people who may then have been compromised and killed (were any ? ), he has not really deserved the fate he has had so far.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

idiotically revealing names of Western agents and local people who may then have been compromised and killed (were any ? ),

Any real names of the said Western agent known?

And the local people killed? Yes they have been many but not by the Wikileaks - and also no names known...

Originally Posted by OhOh

‘It’s shocking’: China Daily chief calls out

This?:

BLOOD ON HIS HANDS Executions, torture and chilling ‘black jails’ – how Chinese President Xi Jinping keeps his iron grip on power

Executions, torture and chilling '''black jails''' - how Chinese President Xi Jinping keeps his iron grip on power that could see him rule for life

^^ Real names of locals were published. The rest I am unsure of.

But his actions were rather reckless.

Is it "reckless" a revelation of criminal activities?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Is it "reckless" a revelation of criminal activities?

Is revealing criminal activity worth sacrificing human lives you feckless Russian stooge?

^
A good logic: who does not applaud to criminal activities is a "Russian stooge"...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

A good logic: who does not applaud to criminal activities is a "Russian stooge"...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Is it "reckless" a revelation of criminal activities?

He dumped a huge pile of classified information into the public domain, including names of US agents as well as local people who helped them.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

He dumped a huge pile of classified information into the public domain, including names of US agents as well as local people who helped them.

He also did Putin's bidding to interfere with the 2016 election and gave us the bald orange c u n t.

He deserves a life rotting in Supermax for that alone.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

He also did Putin's bidding to interfere with the 2016 election

Beside the 30,000 leaked emails that should not have been emailed that way - (forget already who from...) - however FBI Comey did not think so, just about wedding, completely harmless...

Denied bail. Apparently the judge didn't expect him to return if let out.

Good call.

I bet the Ecuadorians are breathing a huge sigh of relief as well.

Of course the Mexicans are stupidly offering him asylum just to try and wind up the seppos.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

(forget already who from...)

Your vodka-soaked brain remembers very little

Originally Posted by Klondyke
(forget already who from...)

Originally Posted by panama hat

Your vodka-soaked brain remembers very little

Always forgetting that also the ignorant people read my posts, so next time better to attach a for them to let them know it's a joke...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Always forgetting

Yes, so you've mentioned.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

forget already who from...

Has senile dementia set in or progressed to this stage . . . will you get lost riding your little scooter? Have you further fried your brain in your sauna . . . in the tropics?

Not to worry, lay your Stalinist medals to rest . . . and finish the bottle of vodka you opened an hour ago.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

so next time better to attach a for them to let them know it's a joke...

worst backflip ever.

^ especially, when googled 30,000 emails...

Originally Posted by TheRealKW

worst backflip ever.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

^ especially, when googled 30,000 emails...

Nah . . . you don't even know what you're trying to say, fuckwit


Has senile dementia set in or progressed to this stage . . . will you get lost riding your little scooter? Have you further fried your brain in your sauna . . . in the tropics?

Not to worry, lay your Stalinist medals to rest . . . and finish the bottle of vodka you opened an hour ago.