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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    ...because he has a history of disappearing.
    Too bad that he is not in a possession of a private jet (and a gang of good friends - please no names here), then no worry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    WTF ? Can they do that ?

    Bastards
    Why the fuck wouldn't they?

    He's done a runner before so an obvious flight risk.

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    ^That's the clue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmartin View Post
    ‘They’ run the world.
    He doesn’t.
    Game over.
    Single fluorescent lamp on for 24 hours a day at Hotel Leavenworth is his future.
    indeed, doesn't matter that the whole process was dodgy and the court system in England can be used politically (hint: Pinochet case)

    and that Assange was right about the secret conspiracy to get him, after a secret grand jury had him on an arrest warrant, completely undisclosed publicly

    that said, he should remain in jail for a being a complete red hair wanker,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Too bad that he is not in a possession of a private jet (and a gang of good friends - please no names here), then no worry...
    I suggested while he was still in the embassy that he should arrange a hot air balloon pickup, when the wind was going towards France....but nobody listened.

    I also reckon he shoulda tunneled out to a sewer...or stormwater drain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I suggested while he was still in the embassy that he should arrange a hot air balloon pickup, when the wind was going towards France....but nobody listened.

    I also reckon he shoulda tunneled out to a sewer...or stormwater drain
    Or he could just pretend that he knows something really important that they won't get to know about unless they do a deal to maroon him on St Helena or something.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuRY1skaH4M

    we are all figments of our own imagination.

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    Epstein tried something on that line, worked out well.

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    It's not a "whistleblower" like a "whistleblower"...


    Spain security firm probed 'for spying on Assange for CIA'


    The system allegedly gave the CIA direct access to private meetings between Assange and his lawyers inside the Ecuadoran embassy in London (AFP Photo/Niklas HALLE'N)


    Madrid (AFP) - A Spanish private security firm, which is under investigation in Madrid, spied on Wikileaks founder Julian Assange on behalf of the CIA while he was inside the Ecudoran embassy in London, El Pais daily reported Friday.

    Citing unspecified documents and statements, the paper said Undercover Global Ltd, which was responsible for security at the embassy while Assange was staying there, sent the US intelligence service audio and video files of meetings he had with his lawyers.

    The reports were allegedly handed over by David Morales, who owns the company and is currently being investigated by Spain’s National Court, the paper said.

    Speaking to AFP, one of Assange's lawyers confirmed the National Court was looking into the matter.

    "There is a criminal case under investigation at the National Court but it is being conducted in secret... and we cannot say anything about what is being investigated beyond what has been leaked" to the press, Aitor Martinez told AFP.

    The leak "probably came from employees at the firm", he said.

    Contacted by AFP, the court refused to comment.

    According to El Pais, Undercover Global installed microphones in the embassy’s fire extinguishers as well as in the women's toilets where Assange's lawyers used to meet for fear of being spied on.

    - 'Live streaming to the CIA' -

    It said the company also installed a streaming system so the recordings could be directly accessed by US officials, enabling them to spy on a meeting Assange had with Ecuador's secret service chief Rommy Vallejo in December 2017.

    https://news.yahoo.com/spain-securit...152919133.html

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    Julian Assange appears confused at extradition hearing, struggles to recall his name

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/julian-a...Gu6u2b36-Cz1GA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Julian Assange appears confused at extradition hearing, struggles to recall his name


    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/julian-a...Gu6u2b36-Cz1GA
    Translation:

    "Assange tries it on".

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    Yeah, yeah......however the reality is that prison and lack of sunlight and human conversation do awful things

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    Prominent Germans appeal for Julian Assange's release

    The WikiLeaks founder is being held in deteriorating conditions despite his poor health, his supporters said. The signatories include a former German vice-chancellor and a Nobel Prize winner.

    130 prominent Germans appeal for Julian Assange's release

    More than 130 prominent figures in Germany from the world of art, politics, and the media signed an appeal on Thursday calling for Wikileaks founder Julian Assange to be released from prison in the UK. He is currently serving a 50-week sentence for skipping bail.

    The letter's signatories include famous German investigative journalist Günther Wallraff, former Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel, and Austrian winner of the Nobel Prize in literature, Elfriede Jelinek.

    It says that Assange, 48, is being held in "isolation and monitored under unnecessarily stressful conditions" in a British prison despite being in "critical health."

    UN Special Rapporteur on torture, Nils Melzer, told DW that after meeting with Assange he believed that the activisted exhibited "typical signs of psychological torture."

    They also argue that Assange risks being deprived of his basic human rights if he is extradited to the United States when his sentence is over.

    Prominent Germans appeal for Julian Assange′s release | News | DW | 06.02.2020

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    The guy is a dick. That is clear. But the things his website stood for were for the good. That said, he should have known what the repercussions of rustling the bald eagle feathers would be like. As others have said, he made his bed ....

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    Trump offered to pardon Assange if he denied Russia helped leak Democrats' emails: lawyer

    LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump offered to pardon WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange if he said that Russia had nothing to do with WikiLeaks’ publication of Democratic Party emails in 2016, a London court heard on Wednesday.

    At Westminster Magistrates’ Court, Assange’s barrister, Edward Fitzgerald, referred to a witness statement by former Republican U.S. Representative Dana Rohrabacher who visited Assange in 2017, saying he had been sent by the president to offer a pardon.

    The pardon would come on the condition that Assange say the Russians were not involved in the email leak that damaged Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign in 2016 against Trump, Rohrabacher’s statement said.

    A White House spokeswoman, Stephanie Grisham, denied the assertion.

    “The president barely knows Dana Rohrabacher other than he’s an ex-congressman. He’s never spoken to him on this subject or almost any subject. It is a complete fabrication and a total lie,” she said.

    Rohrabacher, likewise, said he never spoke with the president about Assange. In a statement, the former lawmaker denied he had been sent on Trump’s behalf and said he was acting on his own when he offered to ask Trump for a pardon if Assange would say how he got the emails.

    He said he relayed Assange’s willingness to cooperate to Trump’s then-chief of staff, John Kelly, but said he heard nothing further from the White House.

    U.S. intelligence agencies concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to try to help Trump win, in part by hacking and releasing emails embarrassing to Clinton.

    Russia denied meddling and Trump denied any campaign collusion with Moscow. A probe by U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller did not establish that members of Trump’s campaign conspired with Russia during the election.

    Assange, 48, who spent seven years holed up in Ecuador’s London embassy before he was dragged out last April, is wanted in the United States on 18 counts including conspiring to hack government computers and violating an espionage law. He could spend decades behind bars if convicted.

    Almost a decade after his WikiLeaks website enraged Washington by leaking secret U.S. documents, Woolwich Crown Court in London will begin hearings on Monday - with Assange present - to decide whether he should be sent to the United States.

    At Wednesday’s hearing, Assange spoke only to confirm his name and date of birth. He appeared relaxed and spent much of the hearing reading notes in his lap. He wore two pairs of glasses: one on top of his head and another he took on and off and twiddled in his hands.

    The Australian-born Assange made global headlines in early 2010 when WikiLeaks published a classified U.S. military video showing a 2007 attack by Apache helicopters in Baghdad that killed a dozen people, including two Reuters news staff.

    The full extradition hearing will be split in two parts, with the second half delayed until May.

    Trump offered to pardon Assange if he denied Russia helped leak Democrats' emails: lawyer - Reuters

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    (Bloomberg) --

    On Monday, a four-week trial in London will begin to determine whether he can be shipped to the U.S., where he faces a maximum prison term of 175 years for releasing classified government documents. And he’s not going quietly.

    The case will start days after Assange’s attorneys alleged that President Donald Trump instructed a former congressman to offer their client a pardon if he “played ball” and said Russia had nothing to do with Democratic National Committee leaks during the 2016 election.


    “We are preparing for a case that the world superpower has had 10 years to prepare for,” Jen Robinson, one of Assange’s lawyers, said at a panel discussion earlier this month.
    The allegations from Robinson about a possible pardon came after Trump offered clemency to political allies and condemned the sentencing of longtime associate Roger Stone. Stone, who helped serve as a conduit between WikiLeaks and the 2016 campaign, was convicted on several counts that sprang out of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation and was sentenced Thursday to more than three years imprisonment.

    Assange faces 18 counts related to endangering American national security by conspiring to get and release classified information. He’s accused of working with former Army intelligence officer Chelsea Manning to get classified documents from databases containing about 90,000 Afghanistan war-related activity reports, 400,000 Iraq war-related reports and 250,000 State Department cables.
    The trial will last a week before adjourning until May for another three-week session. It will be held at a court adjoining Belmarsh.

    Assange’s lawyers have said that they’ll argue that the Australian shouldn’t be extradited for what they say is a political offense. They will say that his actions weren’t illegal in the U.K. and that agencies have conspired to abuse the legal process against him.
    Assange’s legal team must show the political motivation behind his prosecution means either that the case is irredeemably tainted or that it’s impossible for him to get a fair trial in the U.S., according to British lawyer Nick Vamos, who led the Crown Prosecution Service’s extradition team for four years.
    “It’s a very difficult argument to succeed on,” he said.
    After praising WikiLeaks during his election campaign and urging the release of more Democratic emails, Trump has backed away from Assange and the organization, telling reporters that the group wasn’t his “thing.”
    In 2017, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said WikiLeaks was more like a “hostile intelligence service.”
    The case could also test the relationship between U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Trump. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn called for Johnson to oppose the extradition in Parliament last week, adding that “this deep disparity with the U.S. is about to be laid bare.”

    Johnson refused to comment on the case but said the government supports the safeguarding of journalists.
    Assange’s lawyers “will make a lot of noise about politics but I don’t think it will get very far,” Vamos said. The argument of bad faith, centered on Robinson’s allegations that secret recordings of Assange’s legal meetings were given to the CIA, may get further.
    “They’ll say that U.S. authorities broke all the rules to get him and that a U.K. court shouldn’t lend itself to a flagrant breach of international rules,” he said.

    Historic Assange Trial to Hinge on Trump’s Political Motivations

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    If the court accepts this is a political extradition the trial would collapse; or maybe should, since the finer points of treaties and protocols are often ignored in our crazy world.

    Not that gasping for a trade deal with the US might have anything to do with it.

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    They should simply refuse to extradite him until that bint that killed the motorcyclist is returned for trial.

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    ^That would teach him - and all the "politically incorrect" journos...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They should simply refuse to extradite him until that bint that killed the motorcyclist is returned for trial.
    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    ^That would teach him - and all the "politically incorrect" journos...
    Eh? What would teach him? What would it teach him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Eh? What would teach him? What would it teach him?
    Warning: He's as dumb as a fucking rock.

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    On the opening day of the extradition hearing, US government-appointed lawyer James Lewis called Assange an “ordinary criminal” and said that journalism “is not an excuse for criminal activities or a licence to break ordinary criminal laws”.



    I tend to agree. If I had been Assange, I would not have revealed (as Assange did) the names of people who were then disappeared. It looks like those people were murdered. If a journalist had revealed those names and identities, he would be held accountable. Except no journalist would be that careless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Eh? What would teach him? What would it teach him?
    Sorry, I did not attached a smiley for some to understand...

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    The plot thickens :


    Lawyers for the US government said Mr Assange published the real names of hundreds of US informants, risking their safety, in classified diplomatic cables in September 2011."Mr Assange did not have to publish the unredacted cables, but he decided to do so," James Lewis QC said.


    But barrister Mark Summers, for Mr Assange, said the files and the password protecting them were already in the public domain, including on content-sharing website PirateBay.

    The password was also the name of a chapter in Guardian journalist David Leigh's book about Mr Assange, published earlier in 2011.
    "Far from being a reckless, unredacted release ... what actually occurred was that one of the media partners published a book in February 2011 and published the password to the unredacted materials, which then enabled the entire world to publish those unredacted materials in a book and they circulated on the internet, not on the WikiLeaks site, but on other sites," Mr Summers said.
    "None of them have been prosecuted, some of which are US-based, all of them published first, some of them are still there."


    The Guardian newspaper said Leigh had been told by Mr Assange the password was temporary and his book didn't say where the digital files were.
    "No concerns were expressed by Assange or WikiLeaks about security being compromised when the book was published in February 2011," The Guardian said in a statement on Tuesday.


    Mr Summers said for months WikiLeaks had carefully worked to redact the files with media partners including The Guardian, Der Speigel, Le Monde, El Pais and the New York Times.

    The US State Department had even been "feeding suggested redactions" to the media partners.
    Der Speigel investigative journalist John Goetz described WikiLeaks' redactions as "extreme" at the time, Mr Summers said.
    Mr Summers did not explain why Mr Assange decided to go ahead and publish the unredacted diplomatic cables in late 2011.


    Julian Assange 'stripped naked by prison guards' after first day of extradition hearing | SBS News

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    Mr Assange published the real names of hundreds of US informants, risking their safety,
    Mind the "safety" of the persons killed by the missiles shown by the publications...

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    Chelsea Manning survives suicide attempt in jail, lawyers say




    Chelsea Manning attempted suicide on Wednesday inside her Virginia jail cell ahead of a scheduled court appearance, her legal team said.

    “Chelsea Manning attempted to take her own life,” the legal team said in a statement to The Post. “She was taken to a hospital and is currently recovering.”

    The Army intelligence officer-turned-leaker has been held at the Alexandria Detention Center for nearly a year after refusing to testify before a grand jury that is investigating WikiLeaks.

    Manning, 32, was and is still scheduled to appear before a judge on Friday regarding a motion to squash the civil contempt sanctions that landed her in jail.

    A defiant Manning has said she’d “rather starve to death” than testify and pledged to stay in jail “forever” if she had to.

    “I object to this grand jury … as an effort to frighten journalists and publishers, who serve a crucial public good,” she wrote in a 2019 letter to the judge in her case, Anthony Trenga.

    Her lawyers said her actions on Wednesday “evidence the strength of her convictions, as well as the profound harm she continues to suffer as a result of her ‘civil’ confinement.”

    Manning previously spent seven years in military prison for leaking thousands of sensitive and classified documents to WikiLeaks.

    President Obama commuted the remainder of her 35-year sentence just days before handing the White House over to President Trump.

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