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    this past month i have watched a series on true explore sci.on the vietnam war [the truth] its all there.with recordings of what was the truth and nothing but the truth.
    the footage of what i watched is exactly what went on.its there for all to see.

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    It has long since been established that the Russians hacked the Dem server with a spear phishing attack, exfiltrated the emails, did a bit of "Vlad" editing and passed them onto Wikileaks with the help of Roger Stone, to drip feed to the press in the run up to the election.

    You fucking mong.

    FBI reveals Roger Stone was directly communicating with Julian Assange - Business Insider

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    I think you may be able to work this one out for yourself 'arry, maybe already have. The DNC is not the CIA, Roger Stone is not Darth Vlad. They are seperate incidents- I think you mixed them up.

    One explanation for the unconscionable treatment of Assange is that the CIA is desperate to find the mole(s) that leaked their secrets. Spy agencies don't like that.
    Even if it doesn't succeed, the thinking will go, let it be a warning to others (Don't tell the Truth if it embarasses us?).

    As far as the Stone/ DNC stuff goes, fill yer boots. I ain't got a dog in that hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    One explanation for the unconscionable treatment of Assange is that
    you do not say things we do not want said

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Of course, if it was the all-seeing, omnipotent Lord Vlad, the first thing he's gonna do is spill it to Wikileaks, right?
    That's exactly what he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That's exactly what he does.
    Trump has been absolutely terrible for Russia. Sanctions, nato memberships to all, shooting missiles over Putins head in Syria, closed embassys, diplomatic expulsions. You name it. Its worse than the Obama era. At least Obama didnt give weapons to Ukraine

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    LEE CAMP: What’s the Difference Between ‘Villain’ Assange & ‘Intrepid’ Woodward?

    The next time you see a mainstream-media talking-head fawn over Woodward, just remember that if they had any backbone, any moral core, they would be fawning over Assange instead.

    The completely fair super awesome trial of Julian Assange continues in the U.K. as I write this. It’s a beautiful blend of the works of Kafka, Stalin and Joseph Heller.

    Seeing as Julian is kept in a glass container in the courtroom, like a captured cockroach, maybe Kafka wins the day.

    The court clearly must keep Julian in that giant Tic-Tac container because he’s undoubtedly as dangerous as Hannibal Lecter. If he weren’t in there, no one would know when he might lurch forward and PUBLISH SOMETHING THAT’S TOTALLY TRUE!

    What they’re deciding in this trial is whether Assange should be extradited to the United States, or “kidnapped” as the kids call it these days.

    If he is lovingly black-bagged by our government, they have promised he will face 175 years in prison if convicted by another super rad show trial presided over by an American government puppet judge. (A puppet judge is just like a real judge but they’ve got the government so far up their backside they can taste the Cheetos.)

    Countless excitable activists out there say this persecution of Julian Assange is unheard of. They’re acting like no journalist has ever been prosecuted under the Espionage Act. They’re acting like it’s unprecedented for the U.S. to go after a journalist who’s not even a U.S. citizen and has never operated his organization from the U.S. They’re acting like it’s ridiculous to add on new superseding indictments days before the trial begins.

    But all the people saying that are… um… correct. Yeah, they nailed it. (Sorry for the buildup – I thought that paragraph would come out differently.)

    Two Journalists

    Right now, one journalist, Julian Assange, is on trial while being held in a maximum security prison in London. Another journalist, Bob Woodward, is in a very different situation. The liberal Establishment is preparing to chisel his likeness out of a small boulder and display it next to the Lincoln Memorial. They love him because he got President Donald Trump to do interviews wherein Trump, as always, sounds like a lying buffoon. Among other things the president admits he knew Covid-19 was “deadly stuff” back in at least February, but played it down anyway.

    But this is nothing new. Every time Bob Woodward puts out a book, the mainstream media fan-girls all over him. Myriad kings and queens of televised logorrhea describe him as a “veteran reporter,” a “famed reporter,” or “synonymous with investigative journalism!”

    So what’s the difference between liberal-hero journalist Bob Woodward and dastardly evil villain cannibal-pedophile Julian Assange (who Hillary Clinton famously said we should drone bomb)?

    Well, Julian is on trial for obtaining and disclosing classified information from the U.S. government. Liberal superhero Bob Woodward would never do such a thing like that! …Oh, that’s right. He actually said in his own online journalism class — “I have rarely found a significant story where there isn’t a document. …Often you can’t get it because it’s classified but… it’s there, and if you can get somebody to assist you, it will indeed help you with your story. …The hardest documents [to get] are intelligence documents. …And I’ve had them and printed them.”

    Hmm, so the icon of investigative journalism actually brags about printing classified information. Well, maybe the difference between Assange (currently being fed to the lions) and Woodward (currently being lionized) is that Assange supposedly pressured people into giving him classified information whereas Woodward would never do that. For Bob the information just arrives at his door unsolicited.

    …Oh, wait a second. On video Woodward recently said, “Documents rarely just arrive in the mail out of the blue. …You have to go to human beings and say, ‘Will you give it to me?’ You say, ‘Come on, let’s talk. Let’s, uh, not be chickenshit about this.’”

    Soooo, the guy that has the entire mainstream media licking his shoes has been involved in obtaining and publishing classified information, and in fact pressuring sources into supplying him those documents? Wow. Bob Woodward and Julian Assange are exactly the same except Assange has actually not been proven to have pressured sources into giving him documents.

    And there’s one other difference between the Almighty Bob Woodward and the so-called servant of Lucifer, Julian Assange.

    Nothing WikiLeaks has ever published has been proven false. Not one sentence. Whereas, the outlets Woodward works with like The Washington Post and The New York Times publish false information all the time.

    They said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq; they said Kim Jung-Un killed his girlfriend while she was still alive; they published 16 anti-Bernie Sanders stories in the span of 16 hours while trying to sink his candidacy. They said China imprisoned millions of Uighurs based on extrapolating from the accounts of EIGHT PEOPLE! They are utter garbage when compared to the unassailable record of WikiLeaks. But when needed, legacy media like The Washington Post and The New York Times bend over for the national security state. That’s the real difference.

    Julian Assange actually stood up to the U.S. and U.K. empires by publishing their war crimes. Woodward hasn’t really done that since President Richard Nixon was in office. Most big-time American journalists back down to the State Department when push comes to shove. Those who don’t — like Seymour Hersh, Robert Scheer, Chris Hedges and a few others — are never allowed in the pages of the mainstream media again.

    The next time you see a mainstream media talking-head fawn over Bob Woodward, just remember that if they had any backbone, any moral core, they would be fawning over Julian Assange instead.

    (The jaw-dropping video clips of Bob Woodward were discovered and put together by Matt Orfalea. You can watch his work .)
    LEE CAMP: What’s the Difference Between ‘Villain’ Assange & ‘Intrepid’ Woodward? – Consortiumnews

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    he will be around shortly to say,"ITS ALL A HOAX"

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    Good article, apart from the bit about the Uyghurs....there really are a lot of them imprisoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Good article, apart from the bit about the Uyghurs....there really are a lot of them imprisoned.
    Whether millions of Uyghurs are imprisoned or not, let the govt manage it, as many millions of incarcerated and/or expulsed, oppressed are managed in other countries (some even with a Nobel Prize laureate)... Or should they be managed - kindly and successfully - by others?

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