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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Do you have any idea what the "tension" would be if they pulled out?
    Yes, nobody would be worried about a war between the US and anybody else, nobody would be worried about US missiles raining down on them and nobody would be annoyed about having US troops stationed illegally in their country. Is that what you had in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Yes, nobody would be worried about a war between the US and anybody else, nobody would be worried about US missiles raining down on them and nobody would be annoyed about having US troops stationed illegally in their country. Is that what you had in mind?
    No, what I had in mind was that you'd probably have all out sectarian war in the Gulf, oil would hit $300 a barrel as a third of the world's oil supply is cut off, economies would crash everywhere, your mum would have to sell her house and kick you out of the basement, that kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    No, what I had in mind was that you'd probably have all out sectarian war in the Gulf
    You mean sectarian wars like what happened in Syria, Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan ...but, only after the US stuck their noses in? ...not to mention the creation of ISIS.

    You must be supremely retarded to believe the US presence in the middle east is a humanitarian mission to prevent war and bloodshed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    You mean sectarian wars like what happened in Syria, Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan ...but, only after the US stuck their noses in? ...not to mention the creation of ISIS.

    You must be supremely retarded to believe the US presence in the middle east is a humanitarian mission to prevent war and bloodshed.
    Oh furby, the fact that you grouped all those together, honestly.

    Are you even more stupid than I take you for? (Which I promise you is difficult).


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    No, what I had in mind was that you'd probably have all out sectarian war in the Gulf, oil would hit $300 a barrel as a third of the world's oil supply is cut off, economies would crash everywhere, your mum would have to sell her house and kick you out of the basement, that kind of thing.
    US being almost self sufficient with energy is not good for the rest of the world, not even those in mum's basement.

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    Libya and Iraq bring the PRIME examples.
    Iran, without recent U.S. interference is stable.
    Hussein and Gaddafi kept things stable in Iraq and Libya until foreign interference.
    Whenever the U.S. gets involved it turns to shit.
    Maybe there's method behind the madness, I don't know.

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    Neocons..



    Eisemhower warned us....


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    A wise man. What a contrast to the buffoon currently in the Whitehouse.

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    A wise man. What a contrast to the buffoon currently in the Whitehouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    US being almost self sufficient with energy is not good for the rest of the world, not even those in mum's basement.

    Derp.

    HOUSTON, May 15 (Xinhua) -- U.S. crude oil imports and exports both increased during the week ending May 10, the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) said Wednesday.


    U.S. crude oil imports averaged about 7.6 million barrels per day (b/d) last week, up by 919,000 b/d from the previous week, while crude oil exports averaged about 3.3 million b/d, up by about 1.03 million b/d from the previous week, according to the Weekly Petroleum Status Report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Libya and Iraq bring the PRIME examples.
    Iran, without recent U.S. interference is stable.
    Hussein and Gaddafi kept things stable in Iraq and Libya until foreign interference.
    Whenever the U.S. gets involved it turns to shit.
    Maybe there's method behind the madness, I don't know.
    Libya was a victim of the Arab spring. And how the fuck you call all out civil war "keeping it stable" I have no idea.

    Iraq was a two thirds Shi'a majority that had been under the heel of a Sunni dictator. Hence the shitshow when he went. It's sort of settled itself down now the Shi'a are in charge and they've eased up on the payback.

    Syria is a two thirds Sunni majority that is under the heel of a Shi'a dictator. That's where their shitshow came from. That's going to keep simmering.

    Afghanistan... well that's just a shitshow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Libya and Iraq bring the PRIME examples.
    Iran, without recent U.S. interference is stable.
    Hussein and Gaddafi kept things stable in Iraq and Libya until foreign interference.
    Whenever the U.S. gets involved it turns to shit.
    Maybe there's method behind the madness, I don't know.
    Once you consider the disruptor model, a term normally reserved for large tech companies, then everything becomes clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Libya was ....

    Iraq was ...

    Syria is ...

    Afghanistan... well
    Luckily, the population there was rescued by a liberator/peacemaker (please no names here), so everything is OK... (don't mind the kind US taxpayers who graciously pay for that - some of them also by their own life, the lives of others are not accounted...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Libya was a victim of the Arab spring. And how the fuck you call all out civil war "keeping it stable" I have no idea.

    Iraq was a two thirds Shi'a majority that had been under the heel of a Sunni dictator. Hence the shitshow when he went. It's sort of settled itself down now the Shi'a are in charge and they've eased up on the payback.

    Syria is a two thirds Sunni majority that is under the heel of a Shi'a dictator. That's where their shitshow came from. That's going to keep simmering.

    Afghanistan... well that's just a shitshow.
    Regardless. They were STABLE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Regardless. They were STABLE!
    Libya and Syria were not stable. The people were fucking fed up and revolted.

    The US did not start the Arab Spring.

    The dictators in charge did.

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    If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.
    It must be an imaginary bridge because you're living in fucking dreamland.


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    United States sending aircraft carrier and bombers to Middle East to deter Iran-4e82ffe400000578-5983229-image-41_1532362900201-jpg

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    ^ That actually is quite funny.

    That's why he's a baldy orange CUNTO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Regardless. They were STABLE!
    If you are saying that ALL muslim countries need or have "DICTATORS" to function STABLE....you are right.

    Islam and Democracy does not work.

    (please don't come up with Indonesia, its also a covered up islamic shithole)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Yes, nobody would be worried about a war between the US and anybody else, nobody would be worried about US missiles raining down on them and nobody would be annoyed about having US troops stationed illegally in their country. Is that what you had in mind?
    To be fair, we could substitute the US and look at it from the other side.

    Yes, nobody would be worried about a war between Iran and anybody else, nobody would be worried about iranian missiles raining down on them and nobody would be annoyed about having iranian troops stationed illegally in their country. Is that what you had in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Wondering whether they haven't learned all these things from one very cultural state that had organized the young ones (what was the organization name?) some 80 years ago, sending them to die at the Eastern Front...
    naaah....... they already did that since the 7th Century.
    Do you want me to tell you the organization's name and CEO ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Do you want me to tell you the organization's name and CEO ?
    Rather not, I do not want to spend my weekend in a depressing chamber...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    ...nobody would be worried about iranian missiles raining down on them and nobody would be annoyed about having iranian troops stationed illegally in their country.
    Who's afraid of Iranian Woolf? Perhaps just the poor Bolton and few his Melody Boys... - also very thoughtful when troops are stationed illegally in a country


    Trump Is Being Set-up for War with Iran

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/201...war-with-iran/

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