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    Does Iran have any S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh don't be so naive.

    If Iran gets nuclear, it will make a bomb. If Iran gets bombs, Saudi and the UAE will get bombs.
    Unlike some nukes that are friendly...

    United States sending aircraft carrier and bombers to Middle East to deter Iran-nuclear-states-jpg

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    Trump's aim is for the US to have political, economic and military hegemony of the world. Nothing less. No country should appease him but should unite against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    The last thing the US are going to tell us in where a carrier group is. A carrier group is an automatic nuclear strike target.
    Again: The 5th Fleet HQ is based in Bahrain, as is HMS Jufair.

    That place is getting the shit nuked out of it whatever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Does Iran have any S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems yet?
    Allegedly only the S300 system.

    United States sending aircraft carrier and bombers to Middle East to deter Iran-1050339259-jpg

    Full House: Iran Wants S-400 to Complement S-300, Bavar Missile Defense Systems

    16:58 11.03.2017(updated 17:03 11.03.2017)

    "Iran wants to increase its defense tech cooperation with Russia, including the joint development of more anti-missile defense systems and fighter aircraft, Emad Abshenass of Iran Press told Sputnik.

    On Thursday, Iranian army commander Major General Ataollah Salehi told Tasnim News that Iran has produced a missile defense system that is superior to Russia's S-300 long range surface-to-air missile, which Iran took delivery of last year.

    As well as developing its own Bavar 373 surface-to-air missile system, Iran has recently taken delivery of several Russian S-300 launch systems.
    Russia delivered the S-300 last year, honoring a $900 million contract dating back to 2007.

    Russia had suspended the arms deal in 2010 following UN Security Council Resolution 1929, which banned the sale of weapons to Iran.
    Iran responded by developing a similar missile defense system and filing a complaint against Russia with the International Court of Arbitration in Geneva.

    In April 2015, during successful negotiations between Tehran and the 6+1 groups of countries regarding Iran's nuclear program, Russian President Vladimir Putin removed the embargo and Tehran withdrew the case from arbitration last year after Russia made the first delivery of the units.

    On Saturday, Iran released a video showing the successful test of its S-300 system.

    Nevertheless, Tehran has continued with the production of its own missile defense system, the Bavar (Belief) 373, which has similar characteristics to Russia's S-300 system.

    Last week, Iran's deputy defense minister Amir Khatami announced that Iran is carrying out tests of the Bavar 373, which was first unveiled last August.
    Chief editor of Iran Press Emad Abshenass told Sputnik that Iran's development of the Bavar 373 does not preclude a desire to obtain more anti-missile systems from Russia since Tehran is keen to develop varied and modern defense capabilities.

    "Iran is interested in receiving next-generation systems from Russia, since it is very important for our country's armed forces to modify and strengthen its air defense network with the latest developments in technology."





    At the Ready: Iran Testing Ballistic Missiles 'To Counter Growing Threats'

    Abshenass said that Iran wants to develop its own air defense systems in collaboration with Russia, including the purchase of more anti-missile systems and fighter aircraft. "There is currently media information circulating that Iran, in cooperation with Russia, is conducting or is planning to conduct the modernization of its air defense in the near future, beginning with [adding]modern fighter jets to new Russian missile defense systems and S-400 air defense systems," Abshenass said.

    "Even if Iran is now building something of its own that is more modern than the Russian systems supplied earlier, that doesn't mean that Iran won't buy Russian military systems. On the contrary, it retains an interest in using Russian arms."

    "Moreover, military and technological cooperation between Iran and Russia is gaining momentum. Now Iran and Russia are actively negotiating for the joint assembly and production of some models of Russian weapons in Iran. These might be modern models of tanks and combat aircraft," Abshenass said."

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201...h-cooperation/
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    ^ Time for an upgrade.

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    Israel is in charge. Trump will do exactly what Israel wants, if he expects to stay in power. Otherwise, Israel, who controls the re-election of the Republican held Senate with funding through the AIPAC, will have the Senate impeach him. And now you know why Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem, allows Israel a free hand in the ME and is threatening Israel's number one enemy, Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    ^ Time for an upgrade.
    Some suggest Iran has created their own AA missiles, that are equal or superior. Who knows!

    Iranian Defense Minister: We don't need S-400 - Israel National News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    The last thing the US are going to tell us in where a carrier group is. A carrier group is an automatic nuclear strike target.

    A carrier strike group is the massive, great, big, black dong of psychological warfare. You don't hide it in your pants. You wave it around so that people know that if they fuck with you it's gonna hurt. Which is exactly why America has gone and pushed this news to the media.


    https://worldview.stratfor.com/artic...map-may-9-2019
    The Naval Update Map shows the approximate current locations of U.S. Carrier Strike Groups (CSGs) and Amphibious Ready Groups (ARGs), based on available open-source information. No classified or operationally sensitive information is included in this weekly update. CSGs and ARGs are the keys to U.S. dominance over the world's oceans.
    Some people think it don't, but it be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    The last thing the US are going to tell us in where a carrier group is. A carrier group is an automatic nuclear strike target.
    One suspects that those that need to know have these types of targets, newly refurbished for US$2.75Billion CVN 72, "watched".

    The last CVN scuttled out of the Persian Gulf when Russia launched a few missiles from it's, US$135m frigates, in the Caspian Sea. Possibly due to actual threat of being an "exceptionally vulnerable" target.

    "Some sources claim that the Russian navy launched 26 missiles as an ironic message to the US navy, because the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 75) was sailing in the north area of the Persian Gulf, inside the range of the missile (as Theodore Roosevelt was the 26th President of the United States). "

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M-54_Kalibr




    https://eurasianet.org/russia-launch...e-from-caspian

    https://www.defensenews.com/naval/20...-game-changer/
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    One suspects that those that need to know have these types of targets, newly refurbished for US$2.75Billion CVN 72, "watched".

    The last CVN scuttled out of the Persian Gulf when Russia launched a few missiles from it's, US$135m frigates, in the Caspian Sea. Possibly due to actual threat of being an "exceptionally vulnerable" target.
    You idiot.


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    ^^
    What????

    The US scuttled an aircraft carrier in the Arabian Gulf? Bold claims. None of your links even come close to backing that up.


    LOL, you're faker than Donald Trump's hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    The US scuttled an aircraft carrier in the Arabian Gulf?
    You need to be able to read English.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The last CVN scuttled out of the Persian Gulf
    Then you, just might, be able to comment .
    Last edited by OhOh; 11-05-2019 at 03:05 AM.

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    ^
    Hint: Words mean stuff. Use them in proper context with other words.

    Scuttling is the deliberate sinking of a ship by allowing water to flow into the hull.

    Your poor usage of English is obviously not your only problem.

    While you're thinking about words, and what they mean, also look up Bahrain & Headquarters.
    You'll be amazed what new and interesting things you will learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You need to be able to read English.



    Then you, just might, be able to comment .

    I did comment.

    You're a fucking idiot.


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    Here's a picture of a Carrier scuttling out of....

    Oh, hang on, that's the middle of the Arabian Gulf.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    A carrier strike group is the massive, great, big, black dong of psychological warfare.
    Hasn't it been imposed already many times before? Wondering only, in which case it had been proven being really effective...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    Hint: Words mean stuff. Use them in proper context with other words.
    Meaning of scuttle in English

    scuttle verb (RUN)

    [ I usually + adv/prep ] to move quickly, with small, short steps, especially in order to escape:

    A crab scuttled away under a rock as we passed.

    The children scuttled off as soon as the headteacher appeared.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/scuttle

    Or as I utilised the word and obtained the desired response;

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The last CVN scuttled out of the Persian Gulf when Russia launched a few missiles from it's, US$135m frigates, in the Caspian Sea.
    You may be amazed to discover that some English words, may have multiple meanings




    US aircraft carrier enters Persian Gulf after long absence

    https://apnews.com/d4fc9309e97842509291552e13ea5174
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    US sends assault ship, missiles to Mideast amid Iran 'threat'
    11 May 2019

    Washington (AFP) - The Pentagon announced Friday that it is deploying an amphibious assault ship and a Patriot missile battery to the Middle East to bolster an aircraft carrier force sent to counter alleged threats from Iran.

    The USS Arlington, which transports marines, amphibious vehicles, conventional landing craft and rotary aircraft, and the Patriot air defense system will join the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group and a B-52 bomber task force headed toward the Gulf after intelligence reports suggested Iran was planning some sort of attack in the region.

    The deployment is "in response to indications of heightened Iranian readiness to conduct offensive operations against US forces and our interests," the Pentagon said in a statement.

    "The Department of Defense continues to closely monitor the activities of the Iranian regime, their military and proxies," it said.

    "The United States does not seek conflict with Iran, but we are postured and ready to defend US forces and interests in the region."

    On Sunday US President Donald Trump's national security advisor John Bolton announced the deployment of the Lincoln group and bombers saying he wanted to send a "clear and unmistakable" message to Iran about any attack against the US or its partners in the region.

    Washington though has not elaborated on the alleged threat, drawing criticism that it is overreacting and unnecessarily driving up tensions in the region.

    Iran dismissed the deployment of the Lincoln as old news, but followed it with an announcement that it would suspend some of its commitments under the landmark 2015 nuclear deal with major powers abandoned by Washington last year.

    Amid the rising tensions, Trump said Thursday he is open to talks with Tehran's leadership.

    "What I would like to see with Iran, I would like to see them call me," Trump told reporters at the White House.

    "We don't want them to have nuclear weapons -- not much to ask," he said.

    https://news.yahoo.com/us-sends-assa...220835740.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You may be amazed to discover that some English words, may have multiple meanings
    Like Harry said you are a fucking idiot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Meaning of scuttle in English

    scuttle verb (RUN)

    [ I usually + adv/prep ] to move quickly, with small, short steps, especially in order to escape:

    A crab scuttled away under a rock as we passed.

    The children scuttled off as soon as the headteacher appeared.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/scuttle

    Or as I utilised the word and obtained the desired response;



    You may be amazed to discover that some English words, may have multiple meanings




    US aircraft carrier enters Persian Gulf after long absence

    https://apnews.com/d4fc9309e97842509291552e13ea5174
    The trouble is you're so fucking thick you don't realise that Carriers are in and out of the Gulf all the time. This "announcement" is just pointless bluster, the Iranians know when there is a carrier in the Gulf because they see the fucking things sail past them.

    Like the Stennis, for example.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Like Harry, you are a fucking idiot.

    fixed that for you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Like Harry said you are a fucking idiot.
    A wonderful comment, so ingenious (as usually)...

    It's really a wonder how some - who got their wonderful language in their mouth from their mother - can master the language so easily whilst the "illiterates" despite their huge effort will never be able to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Carriers are in and out of the Gulf all the time
    As they are in most any part of the world. That's what carriers do don't ya know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    This is not about Iran. It's about the US wanting to be a dominating superpower, wanting to dominate the world.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh don't be so naive. If Iran gets nuclear, it will make a bomb.
    I think you both are quite naive !
    Of course this is about Iran. Iran's influence in the region has become unacceptable. Iran and Iraq are slowly developing a friendship. Something unimagineable a few years ago. The West will, and can never allow some crazy Mullahs or muslims to take controll of the oil. With the lifting of the sanctions, Iran would have helped the region to become un-dependable.
    The other thing of course is Israel. Have these dumb ass people not learned their lessons yet?
    Don't mess with Israel! Ask Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, Erdogan and the rest of these gangsters.
    One last thing, before OhOh gets all excited and falls off his wheelchair. Israel influence reaches not only deep inside the U.S. but also deep inside the Kreml.
    Now lets bring these Mullahs to fall and cut up the Middle East the way WE like.

    Nostrovia & Cheers

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