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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    That may be the case in Norway but is not so for the rest of the world. Tesla is the world's largest producer of electric vehicles.
    I believe you

    There could be a trend there though

    Have a look

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    Those vehicles are all crap compared to a Tesla and most of them have nowhere close to the range. Like I said Tesla has no real competition.

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    # 1. Tesla

    The pre-eminent leader in EV manufacturing and development has defined the milestones for EVs since first opening in 2003.

    Currently, the company has a 12% share of all sales of plug-in EVs, generating US$21.46bn in revenue during 2018.


    Tesla has also advanced the industry by being part of the open source movement, meaning that any developments Tesla has made in the EV industry are open to competing companies.

    Elon Musk, CEO and founder of Tesla, said this was following the example of Nils Bohlin who invented the three point seatbelt in 1955 and felt it too important not to share.

    The firm’s Model 3 is enjoying rampant success in the US, having become dominant in the premium car market.


    Flagship Model: Tesla Model S
    Charge time: 40 hours at 220v
    Range: 370 miles
    Price: From £81,000

    Top 10 EV manufacturers | Lists | CSO Magazine
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Those vehicles are all crap compared to a Tesla and most of them have nowhere close to the range.
    We are used to crab cars, so...

    There might be a market for cheap shit.

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    I don't know about these sales numbers. Tesla sold over 20,000 Model 3 in November in China alone. They are aiming for 500,000 cars sold in 2020.

    Tesla is selling new shares valued at $5 billion. With that they will have cash reserves of almost $20 billion available for investments.
    "don't attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    I don't know about these sales numbers. Tesla sold over 20,000 Model 3 in November in China alone. They are aiming for 500,000 cars sold in 2020.
    Are you referring to the norwegian sales ?

    There are 1,5 billion people in China and about 5 mill in Norway


    So far in december they have sold 522 model 3 x 300= quite a good market

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    Elon Musk is now the richest person in the world, passing Jeff Bezos

    Key Points
    • Elon Musk just became the richest person in the world, with a net worth of more than $185 billion.
    • Thursday’s increase in Tesla’s share price pushed Musk past Jeff Bezos, who had been the richest person since 2017 and is currently worth about $184 billion.
    • Musk’s wealth surge over the past year marks the fastest rise to the top of the rich list in history — and marks a dramatic financial turnaround for the famed entrepreneur.


    Elon Musk is now the richest person in the world, passing Jeff Bezos


    Telsa's share price and the (apparent) value of a bitcoin ... two bubbles I intend to stay well clear of.

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    Tesla is probably overpriced. There was a rise after Tesla was included in the NASDAQ index and it was expected after index funds had bought their share prices would drop somewhat. But even Tesla selling another $5 billion new shares did not stop the rise.

    It is well possible that Tesla shares will drop enough that he loses his richest man status temporarily. But I fullly expect that SpaceX shares will rise a lot due to revenue from Starlink, making him richest man more permanently. The value of his SpaceX shares is now well beyond $25 billion and rising.

    Tesla has now probably enough cash reserves to buy General Motors, but who wants General Motors?

    Instead of a drop there is now a new steep rise happening after announcement of Tesla sales in the 4th quarter 2020. Now well beyond $800 a share. That's after a share split of 1 to 5 shares to limit the price of a single share. Without that split a single share would now be $ 4000 after a share value low of $210 in 2019. They may need another share split.

    I love the fact that Tesla shortsellers lost $40 billion last year, more than the loss of the US airline industry due to Covid. Elon Musk mocked the short sellers by selling short shorts under the Tesla brand. I hope and think he will never grow beyond this kind of jokes.

    Can Tesla survive this?-tesla-short-shorts-hero-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Hydrogen is idiotic and has been idiotic since I was a youth. Some drawbacks are they are not allowed to use closed parking garages and the tanks are empty in the morning because the hydrogen evaporates. Maybe possible for buses which drive a predetermined mileage evey day and arrive mostly empty at the depot for the night. Complete garbage for private cars. They were mostly abandoned 40 years ago because of lack of a sensible tank solution and the situation has not changed. It can be stored as a gas but the capacity is abysmal. More can be stored in liquid form but that's extremely cold and as I mentioned it evaporates over night and poses a major hazard in closed spaces.

    That it comes up now again is just a detractor from electric battery solutions.
    Thank God I didn't listen to you

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    But to be fair, I drove (invested) both ways

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Thank God I didn't listen to you
    You have no idea what you are talking about. For those of us that are long holds on Tesla we have made fantastic gains. The stock was trading at around $88 bucks a share at the start of 2020, over the last two days the stock has fluctuated around $800 a share. That is a tenfold increase in one year. I am so glad that 40% of my investment portfolio is in Tesla stock.

    Since August the stock has gone from around $328 a share to a current value of $837. That is a massive ROI. Thank god you did not invest because you are a moron who does not deserve the dividends you should have had if you listened to TO.

    Last edited by bsnub; 20-01-2021 at 01:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You have no idea what you are talking about. For those of us that are long holds on Tesla we have made fantastic gains. The stock was trading at around $88 bucks a share at the start of 2020, over the last two days the stock has fluctuated around $800 a share. That is a tenfold increase in one year. I am so glad that 40% of my investment portfolio is in Tesla stock.

    Since August the stock has gone from around $328 a share to a current value of $837. That is a massive ROI. Thank god you did not invest because you are a moron who does not deserve the dividends you should have had if you listened to TO.



    You are just a dumb Yankee who attended a few night classes in history (Washington University ).
    Don't tell me about Tesla. Learn how to read before you even dare to talk to me about stocks.

    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    But to be fair, I drove (invested) both ways
    Now sit down asshole and go back to night classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Thank god you did not invest because you are a moron who does not deserve the dividends you should have had if you listened to TO.

    If memory serves me right Tesla doesn't pay any dividends. Which leads me to believe you are a Troll and don't even own Tesla stocks.

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    bsnub owns stocks before they have been offered


    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I think the Tesla share price is insane.
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    It has been quite nice for me as I have been a shareholder since 2008.
    June 29, 2010
    On June 29, 2010, Tesla Motors launched its initial public offering on NASDAQ. 13,300,000 shares of common stock were issued to the public at a price of US$17.00 per share.


    You must be richer then Elon Musk
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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Thank God I didn't listen to you
    That some stocks inflate like a bubble does not make my statement wrong. Hydrogen cars are not going to cut it. I followed the "development" for over 40 years now, it is not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    That some stocks inflate like a bubble does not make my statement wrong. Hydrogen cars are not going to cut it. I followed the "development" for over 40 years now, it is not going to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Hydrogen and fuel cells are a bad joke. Maybe suitable for buses with well known distance/day. But even then batteries will be better.
    Government and companies are investing billions in fuel cells, and here you are claiming it is a bad joke. That it quite an arrogant statement to make and 40 years of your time wasted.


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    Just lately I notice those teslas are every fucking where around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    That some stocks inflate like a bubble does not make my statement wrong. Hydrogen cars are not going to cut it. I followed the "development" for over 40 years now, it is not going to happen.
    Lots of investment now being poured into green hydrogen. I think it will happen it will make electric vehicles redundant very quickly when it does.

    Here's the full transcript of Andrew Forrest's vision for a green FMG - Oil vs Water: Confessions of a Carbon Emitter - Stockhead

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    Dubai are going for it.

    First Green Hydrogen Project breaks ground in Dubai
    Project is first-of-its-kind in the Mena region


    https://gulfnews.com/uae/first-green-hydrogen-project-breaks-ground-in-dubai-1.1549175502065

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Lots of investment now being poured into green hydrogen.
    Besides being quite dangerous, hydrogen is less energy efficient by about a factor of 4 compared to battery electric. Nothing green about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    That some stocks inflate like a bubble does not make my statement wrong. Hydrogen cars are not going to cut it. I followed the "development" for over 40 years now, it is not going to happen.
    BMW plans limited series hydrogen fuel cell SUV in 2022

    LONDON (Reuters) - German carmaker BMW plans to unveil a limited series hydrogen fuel cell model SUV in 2022 as the company continues to research zero-emission alternatives to battery-electric cars, the company’s top executive said on Wednesday.

    BMW plans limited series hydrogen fuel cell SUV in 2022 | Reuters


    Admitting it's not the great break through but moving along slowly but surely.

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to HermantheGerman again.




    Never seen this message before

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    Elon Musk praises China, says Tesla will continue to expand investments there

    Key Points
    • Elon Musk reassured Tesla’s commitment to China in a virtual speech at the World Internet Conference that’s hosted by the Cyberspace Administration of China.
    • Musk said the automaker will continue to expand its investments in the country.
    • It’s the second time this month Musk was highly complimentary of the nation that’s imperative to his electric vehicle company, saying it’s a “global leader in digitalization.”
    • Less than two weeks ago, at the World New Energy Vehicle Congress, Musk said Chinese automakers were the “most competitive in the world.”


    Musk praises China, says Tesla will expand investments in country

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    So did Tesla survive then?

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    Cry baby ... FFS

    ---

    Elon Musk takes aim at President Biden after he fails to mention Tesla during State of the Union

    Key Points

    • “Nobody is watching the State of the Union,” Musk said in an email to CNBC.
    • The lack of a mention by Biden leading into Musk’s latest comments comes after CNBC reported on the ongoing battle between a billionaire and a commander in chief.



    Elon Musk takes aim at President Biden after he fails to mention Tesla during State of the Union

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Besides being quite dangerous, hydrogen is less energy efficient by about a factor of 4 compared to battery electric. Nothing green about it.
    I missed this. Does this include the energy required and wasted to generate the power for electric batteries?

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