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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    PR, is it?
    Yes. Doing the smart thing - arriving and applying. Receiving. Equality

    My wife applied for Aussie PR while we were there on holidays. Same. No probs, no nothing else. Equality.

    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Take a hypothetical
    No.

    Practical:
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    * Excluded from the Disability Insurance Scheme
    Disability pension, old age pension, carer etc etc etc. . . all for Kiwis.

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    the Aussie can do everything right up to and including voting, the Kiwi can't.
    Ok, this is something I don't understand - why allow PRs to vote! Ridiculous. Citizens yes. Anyone else no.


    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Again, it's definitely not equal.
    Automatic Medicare, public hospitals, medicines as Asussies.
    It may not be completely legal but the rules were changed because of mainly two things - the hundreds of thousands, close to a million Kiwis flooding Australia compared to a trickle going the other way. Kiwis used to totally bludge the system, it was a joke, whatever the reasons. Changes had to be made.
    Second - people using NZ to get PR stats and then bugger off to Aus. We have Brazilian friends who intend to do just that and avail themselves to a free superior education etc...

    It ain't all stats that speak volumes.

    Aside from that, NZ isn't a bd place to be at all . . . except the weather and accent.

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    How easy / difficult is it to obtain the weapons that Tarrant used in NZ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Kiwis used to totally bludge the system, it was a joke, whatever the reasons. Changes had to be made.
    *Sigh*

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    (note the pst tense)

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    Well then or now it was always a fallacy based on stereotypes. Kiwis in Aust have always been net positive contributors to the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Kiwis in Aust have always been net positive contributors to the economy.
    Yet it isn't a scale that equates as in apples to apples . . . and I admit to not having the relevant stats on how much Kiwis cost (annually since the ass migration began) the country as opposed to how much they added to government coffers and how this would be calculated anyway. Taxes paid versus benefits received? Unemployment created by having close to a million people entering the country. Aussies becoming disadvantaged and being misplaced . . .

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    It has became quite common to send crims back to their country of origin, once they have completed their sentence.

    I think Australia however will take a sympathetic stance to NZ in the case of that reptile Tarrant.

    My best guess is that he will be sent back to Oz to be locked up until he expires.

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    He will wake up at least twenty thousand times alone, in his tiny cell.
    I hope he suffers

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    i doubt if he will suffer, he has been a prisoner of his obsessions for the past few years and now he will be a prisoner of the state. he considers himself a martyr, serving the cause. he will be fed and watered and his health will be taken care of thanks to the state. no worries for him.

    a more fitting punishment would have been to put him in a room every week for a few hours with a few of the less forgiving members of the relatives of the dead and let them have their way with him. that would give him something to dwell on in his solitude every day.

    pussy type punishments as favoured by western liberal cultures only encourage more crime.

    the americans know how to deal with these types. have a look at the conditions inside their supermax prisons. now that is what incarceration means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    he considers himself a martyr
    He has disavowed his previous views and basically admitted it was all because he's an incel loser.

    So no he doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    He has disavowed his previous views and basically admitted it was all because he's an incel loser.
    Isn't that what they are all about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    So no he doesn't.
    What is your opinion about victim impact statements?

    I'm always very wary of their usefulness as it too often goes awry . . . like this time as well when the murderer was laughing at some people's grief . . . it just seems so fraught with potential damage, though I do understand how it can be cathartic if it goes as planned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    pussy type punishments as favoured by western liberal cultures only encourage more crime.

    the americans know how to deal with these types. have a look at the conditions inside their supermax prisons. now that is what incarceration means.
    So America has less domestic terrorism or crime compared to western liberal countries then?

    care to check that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    What is your opinion about victim impact statements?
    As regards the sentencing?

    Basically zero I think in that case. But I think it's just more designed to give the victims a voice in the matter so important from that perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    I'm always very wary of their usefulness as it too often goes awry . . . like this time as well when the murderer was laughing at some people's grief . . . it just seems so fraught with potential damage, though I do understand how it can be cathartic if it goes as planned.
    Yep I can see that too.

    I don't disagree but it's quite telling that in this particular case he actually applied to be sentenced in absentia and I read that as the coward being scared of facing the victims famlies.

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    He has disavowed his previous views and basically admitted it was all because he's an incel loser.

    ah i see.

    an extremist who kills 50+ and had planned on killing many more suddenly disavows his beliefs and is now to be believed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    an extremist who kills 50+ and had planned on killing many more suddenly disavows his beliefs and is now to be believed.
    Dunno, maybe not, but definitely more than a proven liar on a forum who as per usual is opining without really knowing what he's talking about so...


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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    three meals a day,tv. exersize every day, and he's breathing.51 people are not.
    He doesn't even have to work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    He doesn't even have to work
    I imagine there's be plenty of sphincter stretching.

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    wrong thread please delete
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