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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12213320

    There will be a ban on semi-auto guns because that's what happens when there's political and public will, politicians aren't beholden to special interest groups and lobbyists, and human life is considered more important and valuable than surrogate penis extensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    An Australian pollie is being dragged across the coals for saying this sort of thing is a result of peoples fears of immigration, which it obviously is.
    Some snowflakes are accusing him of blaming Muslims when in fact he just made an observation and if he's placing blame it's on some people's fears.
    Some people are far too quick to take offence.

    Oh do fuck off.

    He said

    ""The real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place."
    Thus implying that the people who were shot are "muslim fanatics". The fucking wanker.

    Well done to the teenager that got the c u n t smack in the head with an egg, he deserved it.

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    NZ Attorney General backtracks on vow to ban semi-auto rifles:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...emi-automatics

    Somebody with balls in that government obviously...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh do fuck off.

    He said

    ""The real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place."
    Thus implying that the people who were shot are "muslim fanatics". The fucking wanker.

    Well done to the teenager that got the c u n t smack in the head with an egg, he deserved it.
    And also implying that it was their fault they got shot.

    Cnut, plain and simple.

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    Building two mosques in a city named 'Christ'Church' is not a chance I'd take.


    50 people are dead because of it.

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    ^ card carrying member of the ignorati.

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    ^^What about building a dozen churches in a place called Otautahi?

    Hopefully you're being sarcastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BelAir View Post
    Building two mosques in a city named 'Christ'Church' is not a chance I'd take.


    50 people are dead because of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh do fuck off.
    Thanks for the phrase, Harry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    NZ Attorney General backtracks on vow to ban semi-auto rifles:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...emi-automatics

    Somebody with balls in that government obviously...
    Real flesh and blood people were killed by a lunatic with a semi automatic rifle, and you are defending him with a feeble attempt at political point scoring?

    You, and your ilk are a waste of a good skin, you total throbber.

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    I find it funny that some immigrants are against immigration. They must think that after they, or there ancestors got there , immigration reached the pinnacle of perfection and there is no need for any more.
    Actually they are not against immigration, they are against immigration of people different than them.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    This is ultimately why the pathetic little man and others like him fail.

    His actions will have the exact opposite effect to what he wanted:

    John Roughan on Christchurch mosque shootings: We will never forget...

    A confession. I have previously wondered at times about the wisdom of New Zealand's immigration policy, for reasons which now seem relatively trivial.
    Not anymore. The good people I saw on television from Christchurch on Friday were the same as good people everywhere. Except some are making their way in a new country where they need a new language and new cultural understandings.

    Their religion is their link to their heritage and with each other. Everyone needs those links in some form, especially in a new country. The average Kiwi is far more likely to attend an Anzac Day service or an All Black test in another country than at home.

    The stunned and grieving relatives in Christchurch are Kiwis. And now they have suffered here. Not just those who lost family in the mosques in Christchurch but all Kiwi Muslims. They have all felt the shock that someone in this country resents their presence here so much.

    I hope they realise he is alone, or almost alone, and that my reaction to the massacre is shared by the vast majority of New Zealanders who have also shared my earlier misgivings. I feel sure I am right that they do. The floral tributes outside mosques say that they do.

    We will never forget what happened on March 15, 2019. That big mosque in Deans Ave on the edge of Hagley Park will become a focus of annual national commemoration. It will be more than that. It will become a central experience in the identity of Muslims in New Zealand and a constant recognition by the rest of us that they were once in danger here.

    They will surely not be in such danger again. If there are any other racists ranting against them on the internet from this or any country, intelligence agencies everywhere will be taking them more seriously now. And in this country they will no longer have access to firearms. I've never heard Jacinda Ardern more fiercely resolved on any subject, and she is right.

    Nobody besides the armed forces, the police and authorised animal pest cullers should be allowed firearms in this country. Hobby hunters and "sporting" shooters can find something else to do for fun.

    This is too soon to suggest that anything good can come from tragedy and it should never take something like this to make us recognise our common humanity. But that is what I think has happened.

    I shouldn't speak for us all. No doubt many good-hearted Kiwis did not need something like this to make them honour the Muslim community here. The ultimate test of Western liberalism is to tolerate different systems of values and engage them in debate.

    No self-respecting nation in the modern, globalised world would lack the presence of such a large part of the world's population practising one of its great religions.

    Friday's news was probably the first time many in the world knew about distant, little New Zealand having a Muslim community.

    I'm immensely proud that we do.

    And I'm immensely proud of Jacinda Ardern for her response to the message from Donald Trump at the weekend. When he asked what support he could provide, she replied, "Sympathy and love for all Muslim communities".

    That was brilliant. Spontaneous, genuine and absolutely spot on. It didn't just express what New Zealand was feeling, as she said. It also challenges the politics that encourages hate, as she doubtless intended it to do.

    Trump will hate that she made her reply to him public. That was ballsy. Good on her. The New Zealand Prime Minister's response to white terrorism will resonate in the political discussion of all Western democracies.

    It's even possible that Islamic communities in all Western countries will be safer and more welcome for what has happened in New Zealand. But our own should certainly be so.

    Graves are being dug in Christchurch. I hope a fitting memorial is erected above them to become an enduring shrine to their place in our national heart.

    It will be there long after the name of their alleged killer has been forgotten. If he is watching, hearing and reading of the impact he is having on New Zealand and the world I hope he is just intelligent enough to realise it is not the one he intended. Probably he is not.

    He is not important. What matters now is build on the message of the flowers being placed outside the mosques and ensure that Muslim migrants here never have reason to regret coming so far for a new life in a safe place.

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    One wonders whether this PM NZ has will grant asylum to all those what? 11.5 million Syrian refugees.
    All that empty land - lots of room for more Mosques, eh?

    This would prove NZ isn't virtue signaling because they would be the first western country to be majority Muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    One wonders whether this PM NZ has will grant asylum to all those what? 11.5 million Syrian refugees.
    All that empty land - lots of room for more Mosques, eh?

    This would prove NZ isn't virtue signaling because they would be the first western country to be majority Muslim.
    Unlike Trump, and his followers, the PM and the people of New Zealand are civilized, way beyond your understanding. Will the almighty USA grant asylum to all the Mexicans who want a better life? Don’t answer that. That question is as trite and stupid as yours.
    The answer is evident in your lack of humanity and civilisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    He is just posting his opinion. Those who disagree with it should challenge that opinion with some reasoned argument. That would be a better course of action than hurling insults.
    Quite so. Bsnub's stuff must drive you bonkers.

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    ^^ You still here, plies?

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    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern also pledged to make changes to New Zealand’s gun laws, saying that “within 10 days of this horrific act of terrorism we will have announced reforms that I believe will have made our country safer.”

    Stark contrast to the US response of 'thoughts and prayers'....even if it is rhetoric


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/w...aJj8_nk8S1TNZY

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    It'll happen though, you can pretty much bank on that.

    Quite what I'm not sure as it's too early for anyone to say.

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    ^fo placemat

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    He is just posting his opinion. Those who disagree with it should challenge that opinion with some reasoned argument. That would be a better course of action than hurling insults.
    Nope. It's just more manure spreading without any benefit to anybody except the bullshitter spreading bullshit.

    The strategy they are using is the dead cat strategy, jump up and down, say things that are palpably ridiculous, and hope everyone’s attention is diverted.


    "There is one thing that is absolutely certain about throwing a dead cat on the dining room table – and I don’t mean that people will be outraged, alarmed, disgusted. That is true, but irrelevant. The key point, says my Australian friend, is that everyone will shout, ‘Jeez, mate, there’s a dead cat on the table!’ In other words, they will be talking about the dead cat – the thing you want them to talk about – and they will not be talking about the issue that has been causing you so much grief."
    <snip>
    "The dead cat is, in its essence, a bullshit argument: the user doesn’t care whether the argument is true, false, or even relevant to the argument. The objective is to get people arguing about the cat, and if someone accuses the cat-thrower of being disingenuous then the next move is to complain about personal abuse." https://thestandard.org.nz/john-keys-dead-cat-strategy/



    Now for the sick parrots...


    Sick parrots are more subtle than dead cats. Passers-by might not know that this is the fiftieth variation on the same bullshit this week, so can’t understand why the recipient is getting shirty. But the responses are limited:


    a) let the bullshit lie – but then it sets like concrete and the bullshitter claims victory from the jaws of chronic boredom.
    b) clean up each instance of bullshit, which is basically what the bullshitters want because their supply is practically eternal.
    c) try to focus on the original point, or relate the sickness of the parrot to the original point while you give medical treatment. But it still just leaves the bullshitter able to throw another sick parrot onto the table.
    d) Call the bullshitter out on why they have such a supply of sick parrots – but then the bullshitter who previously couldn’t manage basic math suddenly breaks out the thesaurus and complains about personal abuse.
    https://thestandard.org.nz/musings-o...-sick-parrots/

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    He is just posting his opinion.
    Don't be silly. He's too stupid to have his own opinion. He gets them off Breitbart, Fox news and other baldy orange cunto carnival barkers.

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    Just a reminder ICYMI:

    Terrorist who attacked New Zealand mosque said China is closest to his political and social values

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Just a reminder ICYMI:

    Terrorist who attacked New Zealand mosque said China is closest to his political and social values
    Baldy orange cunto wishes he could run America like they run China, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Baldy orange cunto wishes he could run America like they run China, too.
    Difference being DJT wouldn't lock up a million Muslims as China does - in 'reeducation camps'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Difference being DJT wouldn't lock up a million Muslims as China does - in 'reeducation camps'
    He'd lock up a million mexican men, women and children in a fucking heartbeat if he could, just to dog whistle at cretins like yourself.

    Baldy orange cunto likes locking up children especially.

    Breaking News: Christchurch Shooting-dgaclhfuwaamw8x-jpg

    After taking them away from their parents, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    He'd lock up a million mexican men, women and children in a fucking heartbeat if he could, just to dog whistle at cretins like yourself.

    Baldy orange cunto likes locking up children especially.

    Breaking News: Christchurch Shooting-dgaclhfuwaamw8x-jpg

    After taking them away from their parents, obviously.
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