"Hanoi summit: What Trump, Kim agreed at their first meeting - and what happened afterwards?"
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12207272
The tl;dr version... Not much of anything.
"Hanoi summit: What Trump, Kim agreed at their first meeting - and what happened afterwards?"
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12207272
The tl;dr version... Not much of anything.
BTW, why exactly are they meeting, what for?
For chumps popularity ratings.
The BBC have a front page video about the tradition of the Kim dynasty traveling by train.
Why do North Korean leaders like to travel by train?
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has departed for Hanoi by train for talks with US President Donald Trump.
Although he flew to Singapore when he met Donald Trump in Singapore last year, it seems the long-standing tradition of long-distance train travel for North Korean leaders is still going strong.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-as...ravel-by-train
^Are there any rules how people are to travel? (also the "leaders")
He must really like his choo choo.
Why Kim Jong Un Chose to Take a 2-Day Train Trip to Vietnam | TimeInstead of taking a short flight to Vietnam’s capital, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un rattled through China on his armored train, journeying south from Pyongyang over 2,000 miles to meet President Donald Trump for their second nuclear summit. This was no high-speed rail.
On Tuesday, after a reported 60-hour, or two-and-half day trip, the 35-year-old leader of the world’s most secretive hermit kingdom alighted at the railway station in Dong Dang Vietnam. Kim was then picked up by a limo, and driven the rest of the way to Hanoi, according to the Associated Press.
^You do get to see more of the countries as you travel through them as opposed to over them. Also the rocking of the carriages helps in consummating ones advances. Especially if you can tell the driver to increase or decrease the speed/carriage rocking.
He coulda taken the express.
How much for such a meeting the US taxpayers have to pay? That's not just the one AF1, everything is doubled.
When by train, it's just the train - perhaps with 2 engines.
And sometimes, anything can happen...
North Korean Propaganda Taps Kim Jong Un as Potential Nobel Peace Prize Winner
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is due for a Nobel Peace Prize, that is if North Korean propaganda is to be believed. Ahead of Kim’s second summit with United States President Donald Trump, citizens in the North are showing a lot of interest in the prize and speculation that Kim will be a recipient is high.
“After the first U.S.-North Korean summit, the authorities began saying during propaganda lecture sessions that Kim Jong Un is a frontrunner for the Nobel Peace Prize,” a North Korean government official told RFA’s Korean Service.
“Ever since [the first summit] at the end of June last year, the Nobel Peace Prize became a hot topic of discussion here in North Korea,” said the official, referring to Kim’s summit with Trump in Singapore, the first between a sitting U.S. president and a North Korean leader.
The two leaders are slated to meet in the Vietnamese capital, Hanoi, on Wednesday, Feb. 27, and Thursday, Feb. 28. Their Singapore summit produced a pledge from Kim to work toward the complete denuclearization of the Korean peninsula, but the vague agreement has produced few concrete results since.
“Because the two U.S.-North Korea summits are being held right after the other, authorities began distributing ‘educational materials for the greatness of our highest leader.’ [Within those materials] is a lot of propaganda about the Nobel prize,” the official added.
“The authorities claim that the world has our Supreme Leader as a potential winner, but they don’t really talk much about who Nobel was, how the prize was founded and what the criteria are for winning the prize,” the official said.
According to the will of Alfred Nobel, the Peace Prize is awarded annually to the person who in the past year “shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition of reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.”
While a formal end to the Korean War has been a discussion topic in both the recent U.S.-North Korea and inter-Korean summits, North Korea was estimated to have 1.3 million active military personnel in 2018, according to figures published by the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies.
Another source in North Hamgyong province said that the Nobel Prize propaganda is prevalent in that area as well.
“The prize is suddenly receiving a lot of attention ahead of the second summit. Authorities are putting out propaganda that idolizes Kim Jong Un, saying there’s a global ‘praise fever for the world’s greatest man,” said the source.
“The propaganda even mentions that Western and Japanese media sources are lavishing praise upon the Supreme Leader, saying he’s a potential winner of the Peace Prize,” the source said.
“But people don’t’ really trust what the propaganda is saying about the foreign media, because they [have lied about it in the past] citing media sources that don’t actually exist,” the source added.
“If they want us to believe that’s how the foreign media is talking about [Kim] then they need to present the foreign media as it is,” said the source.
“They always clearly show foreign reports critical of both [South Korean President] Moon Jae-In and [Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo] Abe, but the don’t show any of the reports praising Kim Jong Un. Nobody understands why they aren’t showing that."
If Kim Jong Un were to win the prize he would not be the first Korean recipient. South Korean President Kim Dae-Jung won the prize in 2000, shortly after holding a summit with then North Korean leader Kim Jong Il.
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/kor...019101547.html
Wondering whether the Fat Boy is less eligible for the Nobel Peace Prize than e.g. certain Obama...
Uses about the same amount of dopey logic.
The Drone Ranger Peace Prize recipient went on to slaughter and maim untold thousands. Peace, brotha.
But killing your uncles with anti-aircract artillery requires an elevated level of panache. I'd say KJU has an outside chance.
Looks like fatty has fucked him over again.
So much winning!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...n-vietnam-liveIn a statement, the White House said that Trump and Kim had “very good and constructive meetings in Hanoi”.
“The two leaders discussed various ways to advance denuclearization and economic driven concepts. No agreement was reached at this time, but their respective teams look forward to meeting in the future.”
Certainly ratcheted down the rhetoric, hasn't it? The horrifying specter of humankind's annihilation, so palpable in November 2016, among the emotionally distressed and chronically butthurt, has quietly left the room.
Trump Kim summit cut short and no deal reached, says White House
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...n-vietnam-live
On North Korea, he says “we had a really productive time”.
He said they all agreed “it wasn’t a good thing to sign anything”.
Trump describes Kim as “quite a guy and quite a character” and the relationship is “very strong”. But says “sometimes you have to walk”
“If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.
Don't count your chickens just yet
And I wouldn't say the spectre of the annihilation of humankind was palpable in November 2016 except maybe among the muppets who swallow Trumps BS.He adds there is a danger of a backlash and a return to barbed rhetoric.
And so nothing achieved here at all. Just a big expensive PR exercise.
Last edited by Cujo; 28-02-2019 at 02:33 PM.
The important thing is that Kim can take a leisurely train ride round the corner and pick up some duty free, while conning baldy orange cunto into flying halfway round the world for nothing.
Great for Hanoi though, I bet they made a packet out of it.
Negotiations don't work when one side demands as a prerequisite that the other give up their only leverage.
The sanctions are more complex. The fifteen-member UN Security Council has passed nearly a dozen resolutions, all unanimously, condemning North Korea for its nuclear pursuits and imposing sanctions. Additionally, other countries, including the US, have imposed further sanctions that target a larger list of individuals and businesses than the UN sanctions. Historically, the president of the United States of America is the person with whom N Korean leaders want to negotiate.
If KJU wants sanctions dropped, he knows what he must do.
^I believe the DPRK leader is referring to the ameristani illegal sanctions. Which it's vassals must obey or be sanctioned themselves.
The UNSC calls can be dealt with in the UNSC.
The DPRK leader has no reason for him to lay down his ace card. He has publically already stopped many of the items the UNSC have requested. ameristan, has delivered none.
A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.
If KJU wants sanctions dropped, he knows what he must do.
Previous US administrations took DPRK at its word, only to be betrayed. The Norks cried wolf once too often.
There are many more sanctions besides those ONE COUNTRY has imposed -- but "negotiating" with the world's sole hegemon garners Un the attention he so desperately wants.
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