US warning allies to ditch Huawei, Chinese "spying" equipment

**panama hat** · 15-07-2020, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

I am commenting on the facts, alleged by ZH, as being published by FT.

Wow . . . that really says it all about you

**PlanK** · 15-07-2020, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by โมโห

A few off the top of my head.

Lizze would not be amused if a certain Princes London home/Caribbean island holiday videos, became available from certain local/foreign stockpiles.

Me mum would also not be amused if some of my holiday videos from 20 years ago became available.

Originally Posted by โมโห

Bojo has yet to explain who planned, paid for and possibly provided "entertainment" during his recent Caribbean island "Holiday"'

I also have yet to explain who planned, paid for and provided entertainment during my last holiday to Sri Lanka. In my defence, I didn't know it was a crime.

Originally Posted by โมโห

BoJo has already received notification of the directorships he will receive after leaving public office. UK retired PMs/Government Ministers have previous in this respect.

I've also been offered jobs I can take up after leaving my current employment. Again, didn't know it was it crime. Looks like I'm guilty on all accounts. Should I turn myself in?

**harrybarracuda** · 15-07-2020, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

If the UK verifying agency had proof that the now banned Huawei equipment had unacceptable "features", they would have publicly demanded Huawei redesign/or pull them out now, not in 2 - 7 years.

The phone companies wanted time to replace the filthy chinky spying kit with something better so as not to interrupt service.

As long as they aren't buying any more of the chinky shit, who cares?

**OhOh** · 15-07-2020, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Plan B

Me mum

Does your mum have a pack of hungry corgis? Does she have her own regiment of angry squadies?

Originally Posted by Plan B

I didn't know it was a crime

Originally Posted by Plan B

Should I turn myself in?

Not knowing the law is no defence.

**helge** · 15-07-2020, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

You have proof of illegal goings on, only from Chinese suppliers? Other potential replacement suppliers are squeaky clean?

No

We have opened a flank to spying on us all.

And we apparently need more

'Cookies' is wildly misleading

**PlanK** · 16-07-2020, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by โมโห

Does your mum have a pack of hungry corgis? Does she have her own regiment of angry squadies?

Do you ever misunderstand a concept?
Always miss the point?
Over dramatise everything?
Regard everything you don't understand as evil because... Well... You don't understand it?

Originally Posted by โมโห

Yes

Oh, good. You are at least self-aware.
That's the first step to being something more than the oxygen thief you already are. I look forward to your continued improvement.

**harrybarracuda** · 16-07-2020, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Plan B

Do you ever misunderstand a concept?
Always miss the point?
Over dramatise everything?
Regard everything you don't understand as evil because... Well... You don't understand it?

No, it's just that when he's getting his arse handed to him on a plate (again), he waffles a lot.

**reddog** · 16-07-2020, 05:32 PM

Be interesting to see what Canada does,they are the odd man out in the 5 eyes intelligence group not
yet ban the Huawei 5g equipment in their infrastructure.
Maybe PM Virtue Signaling will pay his mother to make a speech.

**pickel** · 16-07-2020, 11:08 PM

^
The little pussy probably thinks it would be racist to do so.

**OhOh** · 17-07-2020, 12:34 PM

Huawei reassures UK over impact of US sanctions

"United States sanctions will not have an immediate impact on Huawei's operations in the United Kingdom, a top executive from the Chinese telecommunications company has said. Huawei's vice-president, Victor Zhang, said any disruption to the company's supply chain brought on by US export restrictions will take months to materialize. He said Huawei can meet the near-term demands of British customers through existing stockpiles.

Zhang also urged the UK government not to make swift determinations about Huawei's future in Britain.

Earlier this year Prime Minister, Boris Johnson ignored US calls for a full boycott of Huawei and said the company could continue to operate in the UK, but in a restricted capacity.

But recent US sanctions on Huawei have prompted London to review that decision over fears the company will not be able to source some parts from US suppliers.

"We urge a cautious and evidence-based approach to this critical long-term decision," Zhang said during a media call. "The fact is it is too early to assess the long-term impact, and too premature to make a considered judgement on our ability to deliver next generation connectivity across the UK."

Johnson's earlier determination followed a long period of sustained pressure from Washington to ban Huawei from participating in 5G network infrastructure. The US said Huawei posed a cybersecurity threat, though it has provided no evidence to support the claims.

Washington has also enforced a series of trade restrictions intended to weaken Huawei's position as a global leader in 5G technology, the latest of which was announced in May. The sanctions, which go into effect in September, stipulate that foreign manufacturers that use US hardware must obtain a license before supplying Huawei.

The export controls effectively cut off Huawei's access to semiconductors made with US equipment.

Johnson's government requested that the UK's National Cyber Security Centre conduct a review of the potential impact the sanctions would have on Huawei's operations in Britain. The review was delivered to the government this week and is believed to say that the security services raised concerns about the future reliability of Huawei as a lead supplier of 5G kit.

Zhang reassured the UK that the company will be able to supply its UK clients into next year, and asked the government to refrain from a knee-jerk reaction. He said the impact of the US sanctions, as well as Huawei's response to changes in its supply chain, will take time to play out.

"There's no issue for Huawei to continue to work with our customers like BT and Vodafone," Zhang said. "These restrictions actually haven't had an impact on Huawei's capability to supply to the UK's 5G and fiber solution at this moment. It is important to wait until all the facts are known. The restriction by the US administration will take months to fully understand."

Zhang also warned that parting ways with Huawei could lead to a costly delay to the rollout of 5G in the UK, a country that relies heavily on equipment from the Chinese company. Around 35 percent of the kit used in the UK's 4G rollout came from Huawei, according to UK government estimates.

A report commissioned by the trade association Mobile UK forecast that a full Huawei ban would delay 5G rollout by up to two years, at a cost of 6.8 billion pounds ($8.6 billion) to the UK economy.

On Thursday, Zhang provided expert evidence to the UK Parliament's Science and Technology Committee, which is examining the 5G supply chain as part of an ongoing inquiry into UK telecommunications."

Huawei reassures UK over impact of US sanctions - World - Chinadaily.com.cn

**lom** · 17-07-2020, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

On Thursday, Zhang provided expert evidence to the UK Parliament's Science and Technology Committee,

Unbiased evidence I presume..
This whole article made me burst out in

**harrybarracuda** · 17-07-2020, 01:39 PM

It's OK though, Samsung are two years ahead of schedule on 6G, so we can just ditch the chinky shit and go for Korean.

They are far more trustworthy and they don't spread diseases.

**panama hat** · 17-07-2020, 02:08 PM

Huawei is struggling . . . let them eat shit, which means the CCP will as well seeing their close connection

**OhOh** · 17-07-2020, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by lom

This whole article made me burst out in

Any particular points that made you amused?

Was it the UK government inviting a Chinese company to inform the UK Parliament's Science and Technology Committee, which is examining the 5G supply chain as part of an ongoing inquiry into UK telecommunications, with expert information?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Samsung are two years ahead of schedule on 6G,

When they only started last year is some achievement.

Samsung starts 6G network research at new center

By Song Su-hyun

Published : Jun 4, 2019 - 17:43 Updated : Jun 4, 2019 - 17:43

"Samsung Electronics said Tuesday it has embarked on initial research on the sixth-generation telecommunications network by launching a new research center.

Samsung recently formed the Advanced Communications Research Center under Samsung Research, the company’s main R&D organization, based in southern Seoul.

The tech giant has expanded the existing telecommunications research team to the level of a center after the launch of fifth-generation technologies

“The current team on telecommunications technology standards has been expanded to start leading research on the 6G network,” said a Samsung official.

Along with the 6G network, Samsung Research is in charge of conducting R&D on artificial intelligence and robotics.

By Song Su-hyun (song@heraldcorp.com)"

https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190604000610

Originally Posted by panama hat

Huawei is struggling

In what way?

No definitive UK decision yet, just a comment that Bojo "urges" the UK networks to ..... (Behind the FT paywall)

Maybe 'arry can post the complete FT article here and inform us all of the FT's "opinion", as to what the UK Parliament's Science and Technology Committee has decided/may decide, at some point in 2020/1/2/3/4/5/6/7.

If BoJo has not been pensioned off and a new UK PM takes a different view.

I suppose a 2 - 7 year window to deliver is not enough eh.

One hopes your next 7 year income stream delivers as predicted and equally sound, in terms of any "sudden events".

**Klondyke** · 17-07-2020, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by misskit

Britain set to ban Huawei from 5G, though timescale unclear

LONDON (Reuters) - Prime Minister Boris Johnson is set to ban Huawei from Britain’s 5G network in a landmark decision that will anger Beijing but win plaudits from President Donald Trump as the United States grapples with China’s rising economic and technological clout.

The United States has pushed Johnson to reverse his January decision to grant Huawei a limited role in 5G, while London has been dismayed by a crackdown in Hong Kong and by the perception that China did not tell the whole truth over coronavirus.

We convinced many countries — many countries — and I did this myself, for the most part — not to use Huawei because we think it’s an unsafe security risk. It’s a big security risk. I talked many countries out of using it. If they want to do business with us, they can’t use it.

Just today, I believe that UK announced that they’re not going to be using it. And that was up in the air for a long time, but they’ve decided. And you look at Italy; you look at many other countries.

Remarks by President Trump in Press Conference
Issued on: July 14, 2020
Access Denied

**panama hat** · 17-07-2020, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Any particular points that made you amused?

Most of your shit, actually.

Speaking of which . . .

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Remarks

**harrybarracuda** · 17-07-2020, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Samsung starts 6G network research at new center

That's the one.

Fuck the chinkies, let's skip from 4G straight to 6G.

**lom** · 17-07-2020, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Fuck the chinkies, let's skip from 4G straight to 6G.

That's not how it works and 5G will come, with or without the Chinese mfgrs.
5G and 6G are global standards set by a committee of mfgrs, mobile service providers, and telecom authorities.
5G is on schedule to be rolled out this year and 6G is scheduled for 2027.

**harrybarracuda** · 17-07-2020, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by lom

That's not how it works and 5G will come, with or without the Chinese mfgrs.
5G and 6G are global standards set by a committee of mfgrs, mobile service providers, and telecom authorities.
5G is on schedule to be rolled out this year and 6G is scheduled for 2027.

This is technology we are talking about.

By the time 5G is deployed it will already be obsolete, and 7G will be in the works.

**Klondyke** · 18-07-2020, 09:34 AM

We convinced many countries — many countries — and I did this myself, for the most part — not to use Huawei

(doublespeak: to convince = to twist arms)

So, the 5G is now with us, also the oil supply.
Now only, can we supply ourselves instead of the 20 million containers yearly?

**panama hat** · 18-07-2020, 09:36 AM

So, you don't believe a thing he says . . . along with most people including TDers, yet you have your little touch of the vapours when you want to believe something because it suits your narrative.

**sabang** · 18-07-2020, 10:15 AM

What if I were to tell you that actually, this really has nothing to do with the fantasy that if you buy world leading Huawei equipment as part of your 5G network, the Chinee can spy on your every move?

**OhOh** · 18-07-2020, 01:07 PM

It appears that the EU have "concerns" regarding security by ameristani data companies/government "intelligence agencies" access/government blocking and usage.

Pompeo 'deeply disappointed' in EU court decision to ditch trans-Atlantic data transfer deal

"U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Friday the United States was “deeply disappointed” in a ruling on Thursday by Europe’s highest court that a trans-Atlantic data transfer deal is invalid because of concerns about U.S. surveillance. Pompeo said in a statement that the United States would review the consequences and implications of the decision by the Court of Justice of the European Union that could disrupt thousands of companies that rely on the agreement.

“We are deeply disappointed that the Court of Justice of the European Union ... has invalidated the EU-U.S. Privacy Shield framework,” Pompeo said.

“The United States will continue to work closely with the EU to find a mechanism to enable the essential unimpeded commercial transfer of data from the EU to the United States,” he added.

The ruling effectively ends the privileged access companies in the United States had to personal data from Europe and puts the country on a similar footing to other nations outside the bloc, meaning data transfers are likely to face closer scrutiny.

The so-called Privacy Shield was set up in 2016 by Washington and Brussels to protect personal data when it is sent to the United States for commercial use after a previous agreement known as Safe Harbour was ruled invalid in 2015.

More than 5,000 companies have signed up to it but the Privacy Shield was challenged in a long-running dispute between Facebook and Austrian privacy activist Max Schrems, who has campaigned about the risk of U.S. intelligence agencies accessing data on Europeans. "

Pompeo 'deeply disappointed' in EU court decision to ditch trans-Atlantic data transfer deal - Reuters

As most are aware of ameristani's "intelligence" agencies bugging of foreign government officials, it should come as no surprise.

**harrybarracuda** · 18-07-2020, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

It appears that blah blah blah blah blah blah

Meanwhile European users of Facegram, Instatube et al continue to send their data there anyway.

**lom** · 18-07-2020, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

"U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Friday the United States was “deeply disappointed”

The seppos are disappointed. What a shame!

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