Thread: US warning allies to ditch Huawei, Chinese "spying" equipment

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

While you're at it you can look up what FUBAR means.

Every man and his dog knows what FUBAR means, but it is entirely unrelated to my username, as you correctly point out the spelling is different, so just more strawman bollocks from you.

Do you only clean the offices of an IT department? ...because going on this thread and others, your IT knowledge could be written on the back of a postage stamp in crayon.

Originally Posted by foobar

Wait ...are you really saying it's not against the law for American companies to withhold or not report private customer information which is pertinent to matters of national security?

If wanted to say that I would have said it, dickhead.

Can't you fucking read?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Is this the real reason:

Five Eyes Against Huawei

Washington has asked Ottawa to arrest Meng Wanzhou and to extradite her. This young woman is the financial director and daughter of the founder of Huawei, the Chinese Telecom Giant. She was arrested on 6 December in Canada.

The motive for the war undertaken by Washington against Huawei is deep-rooted and spurious are the justifications.


The heart of the problem is that the Chinese firm uses a system of encryption that prevents the NSA from intercepting its communications. A number of governments and secret services in the non-Western world have begun to equip themselves exclusively with Huawei materials, and are doing so to protect the confidentiality of their communications.


The covers/excuses for this war are theft of intellectual property or in the alternative, trade with Iran and North Korea, and violating rules of competition by benefitting from national subsidies.


The Five Eyes is a system of electronic espionage by Australia, Canada, the United States, New Zealand and the United Kingdom. They have begun to exclude Huawei from their auctions.

Five Eyes Against Huawei

You lost me at 'this young woman'.

Ohoh's post about Huawei's supposedly "unbreakable" encryption rather reminds me of Enigma.

The British kept it so secret during and after the war that they were able to convince the Commonwealth that they could use it for secure communications between themselves - while all along Blighty was listening to every word.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Ohoh's post about Huawei's supposedly "unbreakable" encryption rather reminds me of Enigma.

The British kept it so secret during and after the war that they were able to convince the Commonwealth that they could use it for secure communications between themselves - while all along Blighty was listening to every word.

Not sure that would make any difference - the yanks will have the back door built in somewhere.

Originally Posted by Cujo

You lost me at 'this young woman'

It's all relative to one's perception of age.

Ohoh quotes voltairnet and expects to be taken seriously FFS.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Not sure that would make any difference - the yanks will have the back door built in somewhere.

Er.... the yanks will have the back door built into Chinese-made spying equipment will they?

You daft git.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Er.... the yanks will have the back door built into Chinese-made spying equipment will they?

You daft git.

Probably - at some point there will be US, israeli etc soft or hard ware involved and at that point it's game over. Evern if it was only phones, they all run CIA seed funded Google Android running on them.

Thought you were an IT genius? Blimey. Try reading something rather than looking at pictures and guessing CNNHarry

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Probably - at some point there will be US, israeli etc soft or hard ware involved and at that point it's game over. Evern if it was only phones, they all run CIA seed funded Google Android running on them.

It's the shapeshifting lizard men again, isn't it?

The nips has had enough...

Japanese telecoms giant Softbank is to remove Huawei equipment from its network, replacing it with 4G technology from the Chinese company's rivals.


The telecoms company will turn to Nokia and Ericsson to supply its network infrastructure in place of Huawei, according to Japanese newspaper Nikkei.

The decision to replace the base station hardware comes amid mounting security concerns surrounding the Chinese firm, which US security services have claimed represents a spying threat.
Softbank Corp, part of the tech giant Softbank Group, is the only telecoms operator in Japan that uses equipment from the Chinese supplier, which is considered to be better value than some rivals.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...pionage-fears/

China retaliates in Huawei row by detaining two Canadians

https://news.sky.com/story/meng-wanz...rrest-11579351

Off we go. Canucks the meat in the sandwich.

fucking awesome, hostages on both sides, like a GoT episode

Trump is really the best POTUS we ever had,

Now also the EU govt's are forced (by twisting their arms) to follow US example re Huawei...

US Pressures Germany To Ditch Huawei Over 'Security Concerns'




"First it was Australia, New Zealand and Japan, now the US is pressing the German government to refuse to use equipment manufactured by Chinese telecom giant Huawei as Europe's largest economy seeks to build out its 5G infrastructure.
According to Bloomberg, a US delegation met on Friday with German Foreign Ministry officials in Berlin to talk about the security risks presented by Huawei's equipment, which the US says is vulnerable to spying. The meeting in Germany follows a report from late last month claiming the US had launched an "extraordinary outreach campaign" to warn its allies against using Huawei equipment (while its vulnerability to Chinese spying has been cited as the reason to avoid Huawei, it's also worth noting that the US and China are locked in a battle for who will dominate the global 5G space...a battle that Huawei is currently winning).


Germany is set to hold an auction early next year to find a supplier to help expand its 5G network. The Berlin meeting took place one day after Deutsche Telekom said it would reexamine its decision to use Huawei equipment.

US officials are optimistic that their warnings are getting a hearing, though any detailed talks are in early stages and no concrete commitments have been made, according to one of the people.

The US pressure on Germany underscores increased scrutiny of Huawei as governments grapple with fears that the telecom-equipment maker’s gear is an enabler for Chinese espionage. The Berlin meeting took place a day after German carrier Deutsche Telekom AG said it will re-evaluate its purchasing strategy on Huawei, an indication that it may drop the Chinese company from its list of network suppliers.

France is also reportedly considering further restrictions after adding Huawei products to its "high alert" list. The US has already passed a ban preventing government agencies from using anything made by Huawei. But the telecoms equipment provider isn't taking these threats to its business lying down.

U.S. warnings over espionage are a delicate matter in Germany. Revelations over the scale of the National Security Agency’s signals intelligence, including reports of tapping Merkel’s mobile phone, are still fresh in Berlin five years after they came to light.

Huawei is pushing back against the accusations. The company’s rotating chairman warned this week that blacklisting the Chinese company without proof will hurt the industry and disrupt the emergence of new wireless technology globally. Ken Hu, speaking at a Huawei manufacturing base in Dongguan, cited "groundless speculation," in some of the first public comments since the shock arrest of the company’s chief financial officer.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ud-intensifies

It's all the "highly likely" evidence which nobody is at liberty to make any factual claims public.

Or of course and more than "highly likely", brown envelopes to ameristani politicians are at stake.

Some comments on another forum:

"US can not compete with Chinese companies in technology such as 5G. China is stealing 5G technology from US that doesn't exists lol."

"Swap alleged china back doors for proven CISCO ones. "

"One must laugh at the sublime absurdity of this. USA has shown itself to be a spy on everything that moves, friend and foe alike. They even eavesdropped on the telephones of the German politicians! Germany is in fact an occupied country. Time they grow a pair and tell USA to go forth and multiply."

https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/38273/intelligence/nsa-spying-german-officials.html

Ouch that's gotta hurt. My guess is the chinkies will be filling some large envelopes as we speak.

An Indian telecom export body has requested National Security Advisor Ajit Doval to ban the purchase of equipment from Chinese companies like Huawei, ZTE and Fiberhome for government networks, claiming that they can pose a serious national security threat.


"Ban the procurement of any Chinese telecom equipment in any government telecom network (centre or state), including power, rail, defence and PSUs. We believe that indigenous equipment makers already have the products, IPR as well as manufacturing capability and capacity to address these needs," Telecom Export Promotion Council (TEPC) Chairman Shyamal Ghosh said in a letter to Doval.

https://www.businesstoday.in/top-sto...ry/301778.html

From an unbiased source?

"An Indian telecom export body has requested National Security Advisor Ajit Doval to ban the purchase of equipment from Chinese companies like Huawei, ZTE and Fiberhome for government networks, claiming that they can pose a serious national security threat.
"Ban the procurement of any Chinese telecom equipment in any government telecom network (centre or state), including power, rail, defence and PSUs. We believe that indigenous equipment makers already have the products, IPR as well as manufacturing capability and capacity to address these needs," Telecom Export Promotion Council (TEPC) Chairman Shyamal Ghosh said in a letter to Doval.


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The TEPC has been set-up by the government to promote telecom export from India.


Telecom industry body COAI, however, said that the TEPC demand to impose restrictions on Huawei and other Chinese firms is without any merit.


"We are also surprised to note that such allegations have been posed by TEPC without any proof and background check," COAI said in a letter to telecom secretary Aruna Sundararajan.


When contacted, Huawei said it has not received any official communication and the statement issued against it is not backed by any proof."


Fair competition based on international laws and global rules and regulation, or illegal favouritism?

It's only a request. They'll buy or blackmail their way out of it in a corrupt shithole like that.

Never been there so I wouldn't know.

Huawei's rotating chairman Ken Hu speaks to global media



Ken Hu, Huawei's rotating chairman, is seen at 2018 Summer Davos World Economic Forum in Tianjin, Sept 18, 2018. [Photo/VCG]

"Huawei's rotating chairman Ken Hu, or Hu Houkun, held a media roundtable with journalists from 14 international media organizations at the company's new campus in Dongguan, South China's Guangdong province, on Dec 18, sharing Huawei's business progress and future planning."

A little repetitive, but the same questions were asked which gave the chairman the opportunity to make his points.

Available here for interested souls:

Huawei's rotating chairman Ken Hu speaks to global media - Chinadaily.com.cn

I think this is a lovely app. Well done Rinky Tinks.

Chinky tealeaves take every chance they can get...

https://beta.scmp.com/news/world/uni...arged-stealing