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    ^Shush, the explosions will shatter their belief in the words of their deity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
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    You have an almost Chico-esque stupidity about you.

    Are you related?

    NSLs, however, are subject to two significant limitations. First, they are only available for authorized national security investigations (international terrorism or foreign intelligence/counterintelligence investigations), not general criminal investigations or domestic terrorism investigations. Second, unlike administrative subpoenas and grand jury subpoenas, NSLs can only be used to seek certain transactional information permitted under the five NSL provisions, and NSLs cannot be used to acquire the content of any communications.

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    Assume a homunculous of your self declared talent can click on a link-

    Surveillance Under the Patriot Act | American Civil Liberties Union

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Assume a homunculous of your self declared talent can click on a link-

    Surveillance Under the Patriot Act | American Civil Liberties Union
    Same shit, same irrelevance.

    You're fucking imbecile if you can't see the different between that and the chinky spying laws.

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    Same shit, same irrelevance.
    I wasn't actually asking for a comment on your political commentary jihadboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I wasn't actually asking for a comment on your political commentary jihadboy.
    He's quite , though. Not the same by a country mile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^Shush, the explosions will shatter their belief in the words of their deity.
    Why? Does it conflict with your belief in the holy prophet Xi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I wasn't actually asking for a comment on your political commentary jihadboy.
    I wasn't asking for your permission to post.

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    Huawei changes its patent story


    "By opening up its massive patent portfolio to Linux and open-source companies via the Open Invention Network, Huawei shows just how important open patents are to software development. It's also an intellectual property peace offering to the US government and businesses.

    By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols for Linux and Open Source | April 3, 2020 -- 20:05 GMT (04:05 SGT) | Topic: Mobility


    "On the one hand, Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei is warring with the US over trade sanctions, including suing Verizon over its misuse of its patents. Verizon has replied that Huawei is taking "credit for American innovation" with baseless suits over "outdated and valueless" patents. But, on the other hand, Huawei just opened up its more than 56,000 patents to Linux and open-source companies by joining the Open Invention Network (OIN). What's going on here?

    For background, you should know that Huawei's patent portfolio is both enormous and, especially in 5G, comprehensive. Statia reports Huawei Is leading the 5G patent race with 3,147 patents. If you want to deploy 5G technology, you must deal with Huawei.

    It's not just 5G tech. In 2019, Huawei was granted the most patents in the EU and was a top 10 recipient in the US. The company is, in every sense of the word, a major telecommunications player.

    In addition, while not a household name in the US, Huawei overtook Ericsson in 2012 as the world's largest telecommunications-equipment manufacturer. In 2018, Huawei moved ahead of Apple as the second-largest manufacturer of smartphones in the world. Only Samsung is larger.

    But, in May 2019, the US government added Huawei to its entity list. This prohibits US companies from transferring technology to Huawei without a government license. And it has led to Google suspending the use of parts of the Android OS on Huawei devices, including such key apps as Play Store and Maps.

    I suspect Huawei is trying to accomplish several objectives by joining the OIN. One of them is that, by opening up much of its patent portfolio to open-source companies, it's offering an olive branch to US-based companies. For example, AT&T Intellectual Property LLC, Google, and Verizon are all already OIN members.

    After all, as Andrew "Andy" Updegrove, standards and patent expert and founding partner of top-technology law firm Gesmer Updegrove, pointed out in an interview:

    "The global business community would generally prefer that business with Huawei could just go on as usual. Huawei and its affiliates are the acclaimed leaders in 5G technology, and the rest of the commercial world wants to have access to that technology, and also to be able to interoperate with it. In other words, to the extent that western companies agree with the US administration the risks, they have decided that the rewards outweigh those risks and are willing to accept them -- as most recently evidenced by the news yesterday relating to how many US components are finding their way into Chinese handsets."

    Specifically, there are US parts in Huawei's just-released P40 Pro.


    So, what will Huawei joining the OIN mean for existing intellectual property (IP) conflicts and lawsuits remains to be seen. At the very least, it opens up entirely new conversations going forward with how companies and countries will work with Huawei.

    Updegrove continued:

    "It doesn't surprise me that Huawei would wish to join OIN, or that OIN would be happy to have Huawei aboard. There are hundreds of standards organizations that would love to have Huawei be able to participate as well, but the great majority have concluded that this can't happen unless and until either the standards organizations change their rules, or the BIS [The Bureau of Industry and Security] creates a safe harbor that would make this unnecessary. Open-source projects operate under a much more transparent process than do standards organizations, and this has allowed Huawei to continue to participate in many important open-source projects."

    There's another reason for Huawei's move. Open source has won. Almost all important software development is now done with open source and Huawei's a part of that world.
    In addition, Updegrove observed, "It's also possible that Huawei is taking this action at this time to burnish its image as a team player in the open-source ecosystem while it is under attack by the US government."

    Heather Meeker, a partner at the law firm O'Melveny & Myers who specializes in open-source software licensing, remarked:

    "This move just demonstrates that joining OIN has become a no-brainer for any product company. Setting aside the patent trolls, who would never have an incentive to join, no one is asserting patents against Linux anymore. Waging a patent war against a popular open-source project like Linux is bad for business."

    That said, Meeker continued:

    "Of course, the OIN definition of Linux is far broader than the kernel. Even so, the OIN pool protects the basic infrastructure of the web, and no serious product company has an interest in disrupting it. That would be like sabotaging the roads we all drive on.
    "

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/huawei...-patent-story/
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    2018, Huawei moved ahead of Apple as the second-largest manufacturer of smartphones in the world. Only Samsung is larger.
    Huawei overtakes Samsung as the world's largest smartphone maker in April 2020 - GSMArena.com news


    Damn, those yankee sanctions must be crippling.



    If you want to deploy 5G technology, you must deal with Huawei.
    Nah, you can always kowtow to uncle sam, pay more for inferior tech- and watch other nations leapfrog you technologically. Great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Nah, you can always kowtow to uncle sam, pay more for inferior tech- and watch other nations leapfrog you technologically. Great idea.
    Even that is infinitely preferable to handing the keys to the kingdom to a bunch of chinky tealeaves innit.

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    I don't believe in this cutting off your arm off to spite your face type nonsense- certainly not in biz. Still reckon a merger between some companies to form a viable rival to Huawei in 5G (as I mentioned earlier in thread) might be a good idea moving forward, but right now, no question- in 5G, Huawei is eating our cornflakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I don't believe in this cutting off your arm off to spite your face type nonsense- certainly not in biz. Still reckon a merger between some companies to form a viable rival to Huawei in 5G (as I mentioned earlier in thread) might be a good idea moving forward, but right now, no question- in 5G, Huawei is eating our cornflakes.
    You still don't get the meaning of "critical infrastructure" do you?

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    I just plain don't believe that Huawei supplying parts of your 'critical infrastruture' 5G network means the chinee are spying on your every move. There is lots of software & stuff around to prevent such incursion you know, and it is not just the chinks you need to worry about. Just ask Angela Merkel. Not aware the nasty chinks have been caught bugging a State leaders phone....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I just plain don't believe that Huawei supplying parts of your 'critical infrastruture' 5G network means the chinee are spying on your every move.
    You are a boomer who most likely could not program your own VCR. So you are clueless and foaming at the mouth as is par the course regarding your posts lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Just ask Angela Merkel. Not aware the nasty chinks have been caught bugging a State leaders phone....
    That's perhaps the reason why Trump does not want the pipework from Russia (Nord Stream?) be connected to Germany. Otherwise the Ruskies thru the pipe would be eavesdropping the poor lady... (Trump hates what Obama did...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I just plain don't believe that Huawei supplying parts of your 'critical infrastruture' 5G network means the chinee are spying on your every move. There is lots of software & stuff around to prevent such incursion you know, and it is not just the chinks you need to worry about. Just ask Angela Merkel. Not aware the nasty chinks have been caught bugging a State leaders phone....
    Yep, still doesn't get it.

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    You are a boomer who most likely could not program your own VCR.
    That's kinda rich coming from one of the forums most well known idiots. So stay one- you are not the cause of your nations inexorable decline, merely a symptom. Has it occurred to you, with your bellicose, impotent rantings, that you resemble nothing more than donalds toerag?

    Trump does not want the pipework from Russia (Nord Stream?) be connected to Germany.
    The second one actually. But it's still going ahead.

    ^Yeh sure. And your jihadboys won in Syria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    That's kinda rich coming from one of the forums most well known idiots.
    All signs would indicate that you have climbed far up and into those ranks yourself.

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    Zuckerberg admits Facebook suppresses ‘hate speech’ BEFORE it’s seen by anyone


    "Facebook censors almost 90 percent of ‘hate speech’ before it’s allowed to circulate, CEO Mark Zuckerberg told Congress at Wednesday’s Big Tech hearing, responding to pressure from Democrats to submit to the advertiser boycott.

    “We’re able to proactively identify 89 percent of the hate speech that we take down before, I think, it’s even seen by other people,” Zuckerberg told the Antitrust Subcommittee of the US House of Representatives on Wednesday.

    The statement was in response to Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Maryland) pressuring Facebook to “join the civil rights movement” by submitting to the demands of the Stop Hate For Profit campaign, an advertising boycott accusing Facebook of tolerating “widespread hate” on the platform.

    Zuckerberg defends efforts to stop election threats from other countries and to fight hate on Facebook.He says Facebook identifies 89% of hate speech before it’s posted pic.twitter.com/JPT5lATiLo
    — Bloomberg QuickTake (@QuickTake) July 29, 2020

    Facebook has been under growing pressure since the 2016 election, with Democrats blaming it for Hillary Clinton’s loss to Donald Trump. Raskin repeated those accusations at the hearing.

    Zuckerberg argued that Facebook has built “defenses” since 2016 that now amount to “some of the most advanced that any company or government has in the world.”

    We routinely collaborate with law enforcement and intelligence agencies, and are able to sometimes identify threats coming from other countries before governments are even able to.

    Having tens of thousands of employees has a downside, though – as Zuckerberg admitted to Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Florida), who grilled him over Project Veritas video evidence from two whistleblowers talking about a “culture” inside Facebook that discriminated against conservatives.


    READ MORE: Facebook bans hundreds of ‘boogaloo’ accounts in latest purge, citing ‘real-world violence’ from ‘anti-government network’

    “People make mistakes” and have their own goals, Zuckerberg replied.

    In addition to Zuckerberg, Wednesday’s unprecedented virtual hearing in the House has featured the CEOs of three other major US tech companies: Apple’s Tim Cook, Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, and Google’s Sundar Pichai."


    Zuckerberg admits Facebook suppresses ‘hate speech’ BEFORE it’s seen by anyone — RT USA News

    Apparently, Zuckerberg and possibly along with the other ameristani data hoarders, Apple’s Tim Cook, Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, and Google’s Sundar Pichai:

    Believes they:

    “We’re able to proactively identify 89 percent of the hate speech that we take down"

    Which leads it to believe it:

    "has built “defenses” since 2016 that now amount to “some of the most advanced that any company or government has in the world.”

    But not with all, possibly even some consciously, concealed foreign ones . Which allows it to, secretly and illegally:

    "
    collaborate with law enforcement and intelligence agencies"

    Which they consciously desire to keep unnamed or concealed , possibly foreign ones who may pay handsomely, which allows them to consciously and "correctly" :

    "identify threats coming from other countries"

    And presumably local "threats" including the:

    “culture” inside Facebook that discriminated against conservatives."

    And any other "partners" it may desire to consciously, conceal, but of course some:

    “People make mistakes” and have their own goals"

    Which bypasses the:

    "the most advanced"

    built “defenses”

    "that any company or government has in the world.


    But hey they are ameristani companies, so your "secrets" are safe on the ameristani data hoarders systems and possibly the unnamed or consciously, concealed national or foreign:

    "
    law enforcement and intelligence agencies"

    systems as well.

    We are contented sheep. MAGA.



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    Oh look, it's a HooHoo whatabout...

    WTF has that got to do with the thieving chinkies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    WTF has that got to do with the thieving chinkies?
    Noting, it's just WaaahWaaah deflecting and not accepting that his homeland can do wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You're forgetting that none of them come from countries whose reputation is tarnished by years of technology theft,
    You mean when kidnapping Nazi tech leaders/foreign citizens and rendering them to desert "camps", to build ameristani nuclear bomb tipped missiles.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    , nor whose laws force them to work at the behest of government spooks like the chinkies do.
    It appears that Microsoft confirmed "Government Oversight" or "regime access" to all user data, collected by ameristani tech companies is acceptable. Along with a % for his efforts.

    Trump Says He Is Fine With Microsoft "Or Some Other Big Company" Buying TikTok

    "This new structure would build on the experience TikTok users currently love, while adding world-class security, privacy, and digital safety protections. The operating model for the service would be built to ensure transparency to users as well as appropriate security oversight by governments in these countries.

    Among other measures, Microsoft would ensure that all private data of TikTok’s American users is transferred to and remains in the United States. To the extent that any such data is currently stored or backed-up outside the United States, Microsoft would ensure that this data is deleted from servers outside the country after it is transferred.”


    Microsoft to continue discussions on potential TikTok purchase in the United States - The Official Microsoft Blog

    Trump: U.S. should get 'substantial portion' of TikTok operations sale price


    "U.S. President Donald Trump said Monday the U.S. government should get a “substantial portion” of the sales price of the U.S. operations of TikTok and warned he will ban the service in the United States on September 15 without a sale.

    “I did say that if you buy it, whatever the price is that goes to whoever owns it, because I guess it’s China essentially … I said a very substantial portion of that price is going to have to come into the Treasury of the United States because we’re making it possible for this deal to happen,” Trump said.

    It was not clear how the U.S. government would receive part of the purchase price. "

    Trump: U.S. should get 'substantial portion' of TikTok operations sale price - Reuters





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    Waffle Waffle Waffle.

    More boring HooHoo whatabout shite.

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    Bit funny really. The biggest lobbyist to get Tik Tok banned in the US has been Mark Zuckerberg. Now it looks like Facebook have swapped a little known Chinese company for Microsoft, as a competitor. Out of the frying pan...

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