Thread: US warning allies to ditch Huawei, Chinese "spying" equipment

China decouples from US in space with 2020 'GPS' completion
70% of Chinese smartphones now compatible with Beidou

DECEMBER 28, 2019 03:03 JST


A model of the Beidou Satellite Navigation System: China is offering the services of Beidou to countries in ASEAN, South Asia, Africa and East Europe, creating a new bloc of friends. © Xinhua

BEIJING -- China announced Friday that it is just months away from completing its Beidou satellite-based positioning system as it moves to reduce its reliance on America's GPS in both in telecommunications and for its military.

The final two satellites will be launched by June, completing the 35-satellite network, Ran Chengqi, spokesperson for the Beidou Navigation Satellite System, told reporters in Beijing. The number of satellites in operation will trump the roughly 30 used by the U.S.-owned Global Positioning System.

From modern farming to smart ports to a text messaging service, China is trying to build an ecosystem independent of the GPS and open it to Southeast Asia, South Asia, Africa and Eastern Europe.

This effort pushes decoupling between Washington and Beijing, which are poised to enter year three of a trade war, to the final frontier of space.

Over 70% of Chinese smartphones are equipped to tap into Beidou's positioning services, Ran said. The system also plays a role in fifth-generation wireless communications, an area where China's Huawei Technologies is in the vanguard of technological development.


The skyline of Singapore's central business district is seen at dusk as operations continue at a PSA International port terminal in Singapore. China wants countries in ASEAN to utilize Beidou data to create smart ports. © Reuters

"The integration of Beidou and 5G is an important sign on the path toward China's development of information technology," he said.

Named after the Chinese term for the Big Dipper constellation, Beidou now has related products exported to about 120 trading partners, up from roughly 90 at the end of last year. These exports mostly overlap with President Xi Jinping's continent-spanning Belt and Road infrastructure initiative.

Beidou "has entered into a new era of global service," Ran said, "benefiting ASEAN, South Asia, Eastern Europe, West Asia and Africa in precision farming, digital construction and smart port construction."

Services will be enhanced by the end of next year, Ran added. For example, the level of positioning accuracy will improve from within 5 meters to within centimeters, an advance that will aid search-and-rescue missions.

Such accuracy is also crucial for self-driving vehicle development, a sector supported by the government. Both Beidou and 5G will be employed by self-driving buses that will soon begin operation in the city of Wuhan.

Beidou will also differentiate itself from GPS by supporting communication through its constellation of satellites.

Space is once of the priority areas of Beijing's "Made in China 2025" plan for boosting self-reliance in vital technologies. By 2030, China aims to become a "space power" alongside the U.S. and Russia. The launch of a Martian probe is set for as early as next year, followed by the completion of a Chinese space station around 2022.

The development of China's space program has moved in tandem with the country's military buildup. Although Beijing and Washington have agreed to a tariff cease fire as part of a "phase one" trade deal, China's efforts to project power into space look likely to remain a source of tension in the bilateral relationship.

China has launched 53 Beidou satellites since 2000, including those no longer in operation. The navigational system began worldwide services in late 2018. Beidou started offering positioning services to private-sector companies in late 2011.

The economic scale of services and production of goods tied to Beidou will grow to 400 billion yuan ($57 billion) in 2020, according to Chinese media.

Beijing aims to expand the system worldwide. China and Russia have allied on satellite positioning. Chinese officials are also pouring resources into collaborating with global organizations representing the airline industry and other sectors.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Chi...GPS-completion

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

run a spying network

Where does that accusation come from Harry?

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thief cries, catch the thief!

Originally Posted by lom

Where does that accusation come from Harry?

Fucking hell, have you been living in a cave for the last ten years or something?

Wonder how many rupees were in the envelope?

Huawei to supply Deutsche Bahn tech

Watch video01:07

The Chinese telecoms giant has signed a contract to help the German state rail firm to go digital. The US has warned Germany against allowing Huawei too much access to its technology.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-train-...rts/a-51852140

Fook you lemmings. OhDoh and The dyke are just spam bots at this point they can not be real people.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Fook you lemmings. OhDoh and The dyke are just spam bots at this point they can not be real people.

if you do not like the message, kill the messenger...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

if you do not like the message, kill the messenger...

You idiot. You are a propagandist and far from a messenger.

Meds wearing off again.

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I have no desire to "intimidate" anybody, here or in real life. I speak/post my opinions here and elsewhere. I discus, politely, all replies of substance.

Very rarely do I post a comment which illustrates my utter contempt for another's post. Note "post", not person.

Have you the balls/ability to actually test your opinion in the court of TD?

Or are you content with awaiting the support/assitance of your "buddies"? What will you do if the vote is 180° to your assumptions? Crawl back under your sheet and reflect on the position you now find yourself in.

Me, continue on my way, some have no need to pander for "faux friends". Some have a backbone strong enough to withstand infections from gnat bites, others succumb to the horror of a wrong temperature of a food dish and phsically intimidate loved ones.

What a pathetic human you have become.

Originally Posted by OhOh

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I have no desire to "intimidate" anybody, here or in real life. I speak/post my opinions here and elsewhere. I discus, politely, all replies of substance.

Very rarely do I post a comment which illustrates my utter contempt for another's post. Note "post", not person.

Yes, usually you just post a load of fucking waffle to try and distract from your usual nonsense being torn a new one.

The civilized world will not be able to fully decouple from an increasingly erratic and dangerous US until a parallel international Settlements system is put in place, competing with and if necessary replacing the American monopoly SWIFT- which is now totally compromised. I don't know why China is waiting so long, but they always play the long game. But this is a good start.

good point, but I think Russia and China have worked on an independent clearing system so they can secure their own pipeline for financial transactions

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes, usually you just post a load of fucking waffle

A polite tap on the shoulder, as usual.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

have worked on an independent clearing system

What volume of transactions is it used for? Surely a simple copy of the SWIFT system, plus a few amendments, is all that's required?

The EU allegedly had something that was considered unacceptable. Technical or political?

I think the reason Putin and the chinkies haven't sold the world a new payment system yet is that everyone knows what a bunch of thieving c u n t s they are and that they can't be trusted.

If they could bribe countries into it, they would have done it by now.

Trump speaks with British PM Johnson about telecoms security: White House

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday discussed the security of telecommunications networks with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, the White House said, as Britain nears a decision on Huawei’s role in the country’s future 5G network.

“The two leaders discussed important regional and bilateral issues, including working together to ensure the security of our telecommunications networks,” the White House said in a statement about the phone call.

Britain is expected to make a final call later this month on how to deploy Huawei equipment in its future 5G networks. The United States has voiced significant concerns about the Chinese telecoms behemoth, which Washington fears could compromise British secrets.

Huawei, the world’s biggest producer of telecoms equipment, denies it is a vehicle for Chinese intelligence.

British officials have proposed granting Huawei a limited role in the UK’s future 5G network, resisting U.S. calls for a complete ban, two people with knowledge of the matter told Reuters.

Trump speaks with British PM Johnson about telecoms security: White House - Reuters

restricted role

iow:

they will be excluded from the sensitive core, where data is processed, and they will be banned from all critical networks and locations such as nuclear sites and military bases.

Should be enough to stop Mr. Shithole blackmailing the UK over a trade deal...

Pentagon Blocks Clampdown on Huawei Sales


By Bob Davis

Updated Jan. 24, 2020 7:05 pm ET

"The Commerce Department’s efforts to tighten the noose on Huawei Technologies Co. is facing a formidable obstacle: the Pentagon.

Commerce officials have withdrawn proposed regulations that would make it harder for U.S. companies to sell to Huawei from their overseas facilities following objections from the Defense Department as well as the Treasury Department, people familiar with the matter said.

The Pentagon is concerned that if U.S. firms can’t continue to ship to Huawei, they will lose a key source of revenue—depriving them of money for research and development needed to maintain a technological edge, the people said. The chip industry has pressed that argument in talks with government officials.

Defense Secretary Mark Esper was asked about The Wall Street Journal’s reporting on the concern during an appearance Friday at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.
“We have to be conscious of sustaining those [technology] companies’ supply chains and those innovators,” Mr. Esper said. “That’s the balance we have to strike.”

The Treasury Department wanted to make sure that Secretary Steven Mnuchin had a chance to weigh in, said one of the people. Cabinet officials are expected to meet on Huawei and other China issues in the coming weeks.
The splits within the Trump administration on how to deal with Huawei show the difficulty of confronting China on technology without harming U.S. companies.

People in Congress and the administration who are skeptical over China have been pushing to limit sales to Huawei, and some are calling for Washington to subsidize U.S. companies working on next-generation 5G wireless technology because of how much Beijing has subsidized Huawei.

After the Journal reported on the Pentagon’s action, U.S. Sens. Ben Sasse (R., Neb.), Tom Cotton (R., Ark.) and Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) sent a letter to Mr. Esper asking him to explain his rationale.
“Huawei is an arm of the Chinese Communist Party and should be treated as such,” the letter said. Huawei has repeatedly denied such a connection.

Separately, the administration is exploring how it could help companies produce hardware that could compete with Huawei on 5G within 18 months, a senior administration official said. Discussions include government and corporate representatives from Japan and other democratic countries, the official said.

That effort would help the U.S. persuade other nations, including the U.K. and Germany, to bar Huawei equipment from their networks, the official said. The U.K. is expected in the week ahead to decide whether to ban use of Huawei equipment, which the U.S. considers a security risk.

“In almost every area of fifth-generation technology, the U.S. is the leader,” said the senior official, who added that Huawei’s “competitors were kneecapped” by China’s subsidy and trade practices.

American officials have been touring the world trying, with limited success, to have foreign governments block local network operators from using equipment from Huawei in their 5G networks.
The U.S. government argues that Huawei is beholden to the Chinese government and that its equipment could be used for spying, which Huawei denies.

While the Trump administration is united on trying to block the expansion of Huawei internationally, it is sharply divided over how to deal with the company domestically.

There is widespread frustration within the administration that a move in May to place the company on the Commerce Department’s blacklist didn’t have much of an effect as U.S. companies figured out ways to keep supplying Huawei.
If chips and other electronics are produced overseas and contain less than 25% U.S.-made content subject to export restrictions, those goods can be shipped license-free to Huawei.

Recently, the Commerce Department sent to the Office of Management and Budget a rule that would reduce that percentage to 10% when it comes to Huawei, said administration officials, which would sharply limit the items that U.S. companies could sell without an export license.

OMB then circulated the rule to agencies for comment, and the Defense Department objected—it “nonconcurred,” in regulatory jargon. The Huawei rule required the State, Commerce, Defense and Energy departments to sign on, with the Treasury Department also getting a say. Generally, agencies proposing rules informally clear away any objections before submitting proposals to OMB.

After the Pentagon’s objection, the Commerce Department pulled the rule back from OMB, the people familiar with the matter said. Pentagon officials believe the change would harm U.S. companies, as do some officials at the Commerce Department, which is split internally on the proposed rule.

“OMB cannot speculate on the position of other agencies on any particular rule-making,” a spokesman for the agency said.
Huawei is an enormous customer for U.S. high-tech firms. The semiconductor manufacturer Micron Technology Inc., for instance, said in its 2019 annual report that Huawei accounts for 12% of its revenue.

If those companies can’t continue to ship to Huawei, Pentagon officials feared, the firms would fall behind economically and not have the funds to invest heavily in research and development, according to the people.

Mr. Esper’s comments reflected at least in part the Pentagon’s traditional reliance on—and support for—the financial health and innovative abilities of its more than 50,000 supplier firms. About a third of the Pentagon’s $738 billion budget is spent on procurement and research, much of that going to military suppliers that make up what officials call the ”defense industrial base.”

A 2018 Pentagon report, however, found that those suppliers face deep challenges and shortcomings. The report cited “the rise of single and sole source suppliers…as well as fragile suppliers near bankruptcy and entire industries near domestic extinction.”

The deficiencies “threaten the Department of Defense’s ability to be ready for the ‘fight tonight,’ and to retool for great power competition,” the 2018 report found.

The Trump administration formed a governmentwide task force led by Pentagon officials to find ways to improve the climate and outlook for companies seen as vital to national security.

A Pentagon spokeswoman said the agency is “aware of Commerce’s proposed rule change” but wouldn’t “prematurely discuss ongoing interagency collaboration.” The Treasury Department declined to comment.

The halt in efforts to restrain Huawei could turn out to be temporary, although some government officials believe that it will be long-lasting unless the Commerce Department changes the rule. It was proposed as an “interim final” rule, meaning that it could go into effect without a prior comment period. The semiconductor industry has lobbied to kill the rule or at least to have a formal comment period before it goes into effect.

In December, the Semiconductor Industry Association wrote Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross to ask that “at minimum” the industry be allowed to “provide information on the harmful impacts to the U.S. economy and technology leadership” before the rule is published.

At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Mr. Ross told Bloomberg News that the rules are “works in progress that will come out near term.” A spokesman for Mr. Ross had no immediate comment on the regulations. “If or when we have something to announce, we will do so,” the spokesman said."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pentago...es-11579870801

Anything that makes this administration money eh.