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    I'd need further confirmation of that^.

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    (no problem with backdoor?)

    Monaco became the first country with 5G throughout


    The network equipment is designed and installed by the Chinese company Huawei.



    Mobile network 5G has earned throughout Monaco, France Presse reported, citing the statement of the President of Monaco Telecom, Etienne Franzie.

    Thus, Monaco became the first state in Europe with a 5G connection throughout the country, reports kommersant . The network equipment is designed and installed by the Chinese company Huawei.

    Recall Monaco - dwarf state with an area of ​​2.02 square meters. km As UNIAN reported, Germany is switching to high-speed mobile communications. The mobile phone network of the fifth generation (5G) after working in test mode has become available in Berlin and Bonn. It will later be launched in Hamburg, Darmstadt, Leipzig and Munich.

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    More chinky spying. They're all at it.

    Guangzhi Cao, a former engineer at Tesla, admitted in a court filing this week that he uploaded zip files containing Autopilot source code to his personal iCloud account in late 2018 while still working for the company. Tesla sued Cao earlier this year for allegedly stealing trade secrets related to Autopilot and bringing them to Chinese EV startup Xiaopeng Motors, also known as Xmotors or XPeng, which is backed by tech giant Alibaba.


    Cao denied stealing sensitive information from the automaker in the same filing. His legal team argued he “made extensive efforts to delete and/or remove any such Tesla files prior to his separation from Tesla.” Cao is now the “head of perception” at XPeng, where he is “[d]eveloping and delivering autonomous driving technologies for production cars,” according to his LinkedIn profile.


    According to a joint filing from the two parties that was also filed this week, Tesla has subpoenaed documents from Apple. While Apple is not involved in this case, a former employee who worked on the tech company’s secretive autonomous car project was charged by the FBI with stealing trade secrets last July.


    That employee allegedly Air Dropped sensitive data to his wife’s laptop and was also caught on CCTV leaving Apple’s campus with a box of equipment. He had left his job at Apple to take a position at XPeng before being arrested. Cao was also a senior image scientist for Apple for two years before he joined Tesla, according to his LinkedIn profile.


    The suit comes at a time when the US is locked in a trade war with China and has accused the nation and some of its biggest companies of committing so-called “economic espionage.” Tesla, Apple, XPeng, and a lawyer for Cao did not respond to requests for comment.


    In a statement to The Verge earlier this year, XPeng said it opened an internal investigation into Tesla’s allegations, and that it “fully respects any third-party’s intellectual property rights and confidential information.” XPeng said it “by no means caused or attempted to cause Mr. Cao to misappropriate trade secrets, confidential and proprietary information of Tesla, whether such allegations by Tesla being true or not,” and said it “was not aware of any alleged misconduct by Mr. Cao.”


    Tesla filed its suit against Cao this past March. The former employee was one of around 40 people with direct access to the source code for Autopilot, which is Tesla’s advanced driver assistance system. The company claimed Cao began uploading “complete copies of Tesla’s Autopilot-related source code” to his personal iCloud account late last year. Cao zipped and moved more than 300,000 files and directories related to Autopilot, according to the complaint.


    At the end of 2018, Cao allegedly deleted 120,000 files off his work computer, disconnected his personal iCloud account, and deleted his browser history all around the same time he accepted a job with XPeng, an EV startup based in China that makes cars that look very similar to Tesla’s. Tesla also claimed Cao recruited another Autopilot employee to XPeng in February.


    Cao admits he “used his personal iCloud account to create backup copies of certain Tesla information in 2018” in the new court filing. He also admits he created zip files containing Autopilot source code in late 2018, and confirmed that XPeng extended him an offer letter on December 12th. He says he disconnected his personal iCloud account from his Tesla-issued computer “on or around December 26,” and that he kept logging into Tesla’s networks between December 27 and January 1st, 2019.


    While Cao does not specify when he formally accepted the job at XPeng, Tesla says his last day was January 3rd. He also denies poaching any employees from the Autopilot team.


    Cao “further admits that he deleted certain files stored on his Tesla computer and cleared his web browser history prior to his separation from employment with Tesla but denies that any of this activity constitutes any kind of ‘misconduct,’” according to the filing, though he disagrees with the number of files that Tesla alleged he stole. He also claims he “made extensive efforts to delete and/or remove any such Tesla files” from his personal iCloud account before he left Tesla, though he does not say if he deleted all the files.


    Chinese EV startup XPeng is at the center of major trade secret disputes with Apple and Tesla
    In the joint filing, Cao’s lawyers argue that any source code or other confidential information that remained on his devices after he left Tesla would only be there “as a result of inadvertence.” They also argue that Cao “did not access and has made no use whatsoever of any of the ‘Autopilot Trade Secrets’” after he left the company, nor did he transfer any information to XPeng.


    According to the joint filing, Cao has already given Tesla a “subset of his electronic devices or digital images of such devices,” and access to his Gmail account for forensic analysis, which is already underway. XPeng also “voluntarily produced to Tesla a digital image of [Cao’s] work laptop.”


    “This is a lawsuit about routine employee offboarding issues that could and should have been resolved by Tesla either through its own human resources or information technology policies,” Cao’s lawyers write in the joint filing. “Despite the vague innuendo in Tesla’s complaint (and in its recitation of the ‘facts’ above) that its trade secrets are ‘at risk’ and that Tesla ‘must learn what Cao has done with Tesla’s IP,’ the truth of this case is that Cao has done precisely nothing with Tesla’s IP. Prior to his departure from Tesla, Cao diligently and earnestly attempted to remove any and all Tesla intellectual property and source code from his own personal devices.”

    https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/10/2...lawsuit-filing

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    Huawei has found a way to make peace with the USA

    The Chinese smartphone maker Huawei is ready to sign agreements with governments of different countries on refusing to use factory vulnerabilities (backdoors) to gain access to user data. This was stated by one of the leaders of the company Liang Hua, quoted by TASS .

    “In China, there are no legal regulations requiring companies to engage in intelligence gathering. We express our position to the governments of all countries that we are ready to sign agreements on the exclusion of backdoors, ”said Hua.

    He also assured that in all countries where Huawei has branches and representative offices, the company is working in accordance with local legislation.

    It was the accusations of collecting confidential user data and transferring it to the Chinese government that led US President Donald Trump to impose sanctions on Huawei . In mid-May, he blacklisted the company, banning American businesses from working with her.

    After that, Google announced that it would stop supplying Huawei with its software. Later, the Chinese company gave a delay until mid-August. At the G20 summit in July, Trump announced a possible lifting of restrictions and that he would allow Huawei to buy American products.

    https://lenta.ru/news/2019/07/12/hua/

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    What happened to huge Chinese market and new operating system and who needs the Americans? The tune seems to be changing. Huawei are well aware that the market for high end phones is still relatively small compared to the west. Progress and innovation is driven from the top end of the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    What happened to huge Chinese market and new operating system and who needs the Americans? The tune seems to be changing. Huawei are well aware that the market for high end phones is still relatively small compared to the west. Progress and innovation is driven from the top end of the market.
    They've realised that it's all well and good making a few changes to one of the many chinky attempts at an operating system and rebadging it as their own OS, but without the app ecosystem it's as fucked as Windows Mobile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    What happened to huge Chinese market and new operating system and who needs the Americans?
    The market is there along with the server market, UK have found not technical problems with 5G offerings other are rolling out 5G


    UK, Philippines Side With Huawei: Why Is The US Behind On 5G?

    No Technical Reason to Exclude Huawei

    "The Register reports MPs Find 'No Technical Grounds' to Exclude Chinese Giant.

    The UK's Science and Technology Select Committee said it can't find any "technical grounds" for chopping Huawei out of the UK's 5G and other telco networks, but said government should consider "ethical" issues and its relationship with "allies".

    The committee of Commons MPs wrote in a letter (PDF) to Minister of Fun [Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport] Jeremy Wright that Huawei's involvement in the 5G network posed no techie issues, excepting, of course, the not-so-minor point that if the country pulls the Chinese firm's kit from either its current or future networks, it could cause "significant delays".
    The UK will have to choose between bowing down to Trump and doing what it thinks best"

    "The Wall Street Journal reports Philippines Has Chosen Sides: Not the U.S.

    The U.S.-China technology war is raging around the world, but the Philippines is no longer torn. It is binding its telecommunications future to China’s.

    The country got its first taste of next-generation 5G services in late June with gear supplied by Huawei Technologies Co. This month, a new carrier backed by state-owned China Telecommunications Corp. will begin rolling out a network largely designed in China, to be executed by Chinese engineers in the Philippines.

    The moves are a blow to the U.S., which has in recent months pushed allies to shun Huawei. U.S. officials contend Chinese companies could be compelled to conduct espionage for Beijing.

    Huawei, which has repeatedly said it wouldn’t spy for China, estimates its 5G equipment will spread across more than 130 countries, including in Europe. Huawei’s 5G system is up and running in South Korea and will be deploying in the United Arab Emirates this year. Both countries are U.S. allies.
    Chinese companies’ dominant presence in Philippine telecom networks stands to move the Southeast Asian country further away from the U.S., its treaty ally—testing a relationship that has already grown strained."

    "Why is the US Behind?

    China has invested massive amounts of money in companies such as Huawei to develop 5G technology, to great success.


    1. Chinese companies hold the majority of the world's 5G patents. The Chinese government also controls China's wireless service market and is pushing its three major providers, China Mobile, China Unicom an China Telecom, to combine efforts to develop a standalone 5G network that'll commercially launch in 2020.
    2. There are no major US companies building and developing 5G telecom equipment. Thanks to decades of market consolidation, US companies once dominant in providing telecom gear have been sold to foreign companies.
    3. The defense department assessment is the US hasn't been quick enough in making available the wireless spectrum that's essential to deploying the service. And the spectrum the US is making available is the wrong kind.
    4. The US has been allocating a lot of so-called millimeter wave or mmWave spectrum, which can transmit huge amounts of data very fast. But signals can travel only over short distances, and interference like trees or even bad weather can disrupt service. The problem with using this spectrum is that it's hugely expensive to build a network this way. And it'll be impossible to blanket the nation with the service, because it'll be too costly.
    5. The US needs midband and low-band spectrum in the mix. The only problem is that the prime spectrum that could be used for this service is already being used by the military. And getting government agencies to share spectrum with commercial entities is no easy task."


    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...y-us-behind-5g

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    but without the app ecosystem
    There are alternatives to using google as your source for apps

    The app developers will migrate to whoever provides the number of users
    Last edited by OhOh; 17-07-2019 at 10:38 PM.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    More zerohedge bullshit, why don't you at least post this shit in speakers rather than trying to pass it off as news?

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    Fucking chinky thieves at it again.

    Swiss authorities have agreed to extradite a Chinese researcher to the United States, where he is accused of conducting corporate espionage against British pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline (GSK).

    U.S. prosecutors have indicted Xue Gongda, a Swiss resident, for conspiring with his sister, Xue Yu, a biochemist who worked at a GSK facility in Pennsylvania, to steal information about products GSK was developing to fight cancer, including antibodies that bind to tumor cells.

    Xue Yu, along with four co-conspirators, are charged in a separate indictment, for stealing the GSK trade secrets in order to benefit a firm they set up inside China, called Renopharma.


    According to court documents, the stolen GSK trade secrets were worth more than $550 million.

    The sister, 48, had pleaded guilty to her charges at a U.S. district court in Pennsylvania in August 2018, according to a press release by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ). She worked for GSK from 2006 to 2016.

    The extradition decision was made by the Swiss Federal Office of Justice on July 12, according to the Swiss Broadcasting Organization. Within 30 days from that date, Xue Gongda can appeal the decision before the Swiss Federal Criminal Court, reported AFP, citing a FOJ spokeswoman.


    Xue Gongda, 49, was arrested in May at the request of U.S. authorities. He has been held in custody since then, after the Swiss criminal court determined that he was a flight risk.


    The Chinese researcher was a postdoctoral fellow at the Friedrich Miescher Institute for Biomedical Research in Basel, Switzerland, where he worked from 2008 to 2014.


    According to U.S. court documents, Xue’s sister and her co-conspirators had founded Renopharma with the intention of marketing and selling anti-cancer drugs in China based on the stolen GSK trade secrets.


    Co-conspirators sent Xue Gongda antibody samples so he could test them at his research facility, in order to benefit Renopharma. He then sent the results back. The two siblings also exchanged confidential information from their respective workplaces.


    Xue knowingly received, bought, and possessed trade secrets belonging to GSK, “knowing the same to have been stolen … intending to convert a trade secret … to the economic benefit of someone other than GSK,” stated the U.S. indictment against the Swiss researcher.

    Renopharma, based in Nanjing, the capital city of coastal Jiangsu Province, received Chinese government subsidies and other financial support, according to the U.S. DOJ.

    “This sort of economic warfare presents a danger to our economic security, jeopardizes America’s position as a global leader in innovation, and will not be tolerated,” said U.S. Attorney William McSwain, in the press release.


    https://www.theepochtimes.com/swiss-...k_3005625.html

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    Huawei Earns Highly Coveted “Recommended” Rating in NSS Labs 2019 NGFW Group Test


    "[Shenzhen, China, July 18, 2019] Huawei announced today that it has earned NSS Labs' highly coveted "Recommended" rating in the latest Next-Generation Firewall (NGFW) group test. In this year’s test, 12 products from industry-leading vendors were tested. Only the top technical products earned a “Recommended” rating from NSS Labs.

    Achieving this rating validates Huawei's best-in-class firewalls deliver high security effectiveness at a low total cost of ownership (TCO).

    NSS Labs is recognized globally as the most trusted source for independent, fact-based cybersecurity guidance. NSS Labs' NGFW group test comprehensively measures and compares security effectiveness, performance, stability and reliability, and TCO among NGFWs from a variety of security vendors.

    In this year's NGFW group test, NSS Labs used its state-of-the-art attacks and evasions to evaluate the capability of products to defend against the latest threats on the live networks.

    The Huawei USG6620E NGFW demonstrated a 99.36% live exploit block rate with 94.2% overall security effectiveness as well as comprehensive "SSL/TLS functionality", passing 100% of the interoperability tests.

    Huawei's NGFW stood out with outstanding cost-performance, having a low Total Cost of Ownership.


    *** The Security News Thread  ***-190718-png


    2019 Next Generation Firewall (NGFW) Security Value Map (SVM) from NSS Labs

    The NGFW is the first line of defense against today’s threats and is also a critical component of any defense-in-depth strategy. The NGFW market is one of the largest and most mature markets in the cybersecurity industry. IDC Forecast Report estimate that [1], the NGFW market is estimated to grow from US$15.8 billion in 2018 to US$23.8 billion by 2023 at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 8.52%[2].

    “In the NSS Labs 2019 NGFW Group test, the Huawei HiSecEngine USG6000E NGFW demonstrated strong protection at a low total cost of ownership. We commend Huawei for achieving a ‘Recommended’ rating for the HiSecEngine USG6000E NGFW,” said Vikram Phatak, Founder of NSS Labs. “As an NSS Labs ‘Recommended’ product, the HiSecEngine USG6000E NGFW should be considered by companies looking to deploy an NGFW.”

    Huawei HiSecEngine USG series NGFWs are Huawei's core security engine products that provide comprehensive, efficient, and integrated security for cloud service providers, large data centers, midsize and large enterprises, and chain organizations. In addition to basic NGFW capabilities, Huawei HiSecEngine USG series NGFWs can interwork with other security devices to proactively defend against network threats, enhance border detection capabilities, and effectively defend against advanced threats. Denzel Song, President of Huawei Security Product Domain said, "Earning the 'Recommended' rating from NSS Labs proves that Huawei's NGFW is among best products in the industry.

    Strictly evaluated by the independent third party, Huawei NGFW products instill confidence. This is the result of more than ten years of unremitting effort by Huawei in the security field. We will continue our efforts to bring better products and greater benefits to our customers."

    To read the Analysis Report of Huawei HiSecEngine USG6000E Series Firewall Earning Recommended Rating from NSS Labs, please see the link:
    Download

    https://www.huawei.com/en/press-even...gfw-group-test


    https://www.nsslabs.com/news/2019/7/...p-test-results
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    "Huawei NGFW products instill confidence"

    Said Huawei.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    "Huawei NGFW products instill confidence"

    Said Huawei.
    It appears that the ameristani NSS Labs testing company, had no qualms about it's recommendation of fit for purpose/value for money

    Or did the company receive an 'incentive" from Asia?

    It does seem many of their countrymen are easily persuaded by the quick fix of green folding paper

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Huawei Earns Highly Coveted “Recommended” Rating in NSS Labs 2019 NGFW Group Test


    "[Shenzhen, China, July 18, 2019] Huawei announced today that it has earned NSS Labs' highly coveted "Recommended" rating in the latest Next-Generation Firewall (NGFW) group test. In this year’s test, 12 products from industry-leading vendors were tested. Only the top technical products earned a “Recommended” rating from NSS Labs.

    Achieving this rating validates Huawei's best-in-class firewalls deliver high security effectiveness at a low total cost of ownership (TCO).

    NSS Labs is recognized globally as the most trusted source for independent, fact-based cybersecurity guidance. NSS Labs' NGFW group test comprehensively measures and compares security effectiveness, performance, stability and reliability, and TCO among NGFWs from a variety of security vendors.

    In this year's NGFW group test, NSS Labs used its state-of-the-art attacks and evasions to evaluate the capability of products to defend against the latest threats on the live networks.

    The Huawei USG6620E NGFW demonstrated a 99.36% live exploit block rate with 94.2% overall security effectiveness as well as comprehensive "SSL/TLS functionality", passing 100% of the interoperability tests.

    Huawei's NGFW stood out with outstanding cost-performance, having a low Total Cost of Ownership.


    *** The Security News Thread  ***-190718-png


    2019 Next Generation Firewall (NGFW) Security Value Map (SVM) from NSS Labs

    The NGFW is the first line of defense against today’s threats and is also a critical component of any defense-in-depth strategy. The NGFW market is one of the largest and most mature markets in the cybersecurity industry. IDC Forecast Report estimate that [1], the NGFW market is estimated to grow from US$15.8 billion in 2018 to US$23.8 billion by 2023 at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 8.52%[2].

    “In the NSS Labs 2019 NGFW Group test, the Huawei HiSecEngine USG6000E NGFW demonstrated strong protection at a low total cost of ownership. We commend Huawei for achieving a ‘Recommended’ rating for the HiSecEngine USG6000E NGFW,” said Vikram Phatak, Founder of NSS Labs. “As an NSS Labs ‘Recommended’ product, the HiSecEngine USG6000E NGFW should be considered by companies looking to deploy an NGFW.”

    Huawei HiSecEngine USG series NGFWs are Huawei's core security engine products that provide comprehensive, efficient, and integrated security for cloud service providers, large data centers, midsize and large enterprises, and chain organizations. In addition to basic NGFW capabilities, Huawei HiSecEngine USG series NGFWs can interwork with other security devices to proactively defend against network threats, enhance border detection capabilities, and effectively defend against advanced threats. Denzel Song, President of Huawei Security Product Domain said, "Earning the 'Recommended' rating from NSS Labs proves that Huawei's NGFW is among best products in the industry.

    Strictly evaluated by the independent third party, Huawei NGFW products instill confidence. This is the result of more than ten years of unremitting effort by Huawei in the security field. We will continue our efforts to bring better products and greater benefits to our customers."

    To read the Analysis Report of Huawei HiSecEngine USG6000E Series Firewall Earning Recommended Rating from NSS Labs, please see the link:
    Download

    https://www.huawei.com/en/press-even...gfw-group-test


    https://www.nsslabs.com/news/2019/7/...p-test-results
    That's the funniest thing I've read in ages.

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    Gave NSS a modified unit with the backdoors removed. Even an idiot like Ohoh should be able to work that out.

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    Meanwhile, more on the filthy chinky spies.


    New research analyzing the resumes of Huawei employees suggests links between the company and the Chinese military and intelligence agencies could run deeper than previously thought.


    Researcher Christopher Balding, of the Fulbright University Vietnam, processed data from a trove of more than 590 million Chinese resumes that leaked online last year to unearth the ties.

    <snip>

    The researchers then searched for key terms, such as the People's Liberation Army. From this, they narrowed down the list to just over 100 individuals who had experience in national security.



    <snip>

    Balding presented three profiles of resumes he found in a paper released online, although he edited them in order to hide the identities of the individuals described. One profile describes an R&D engineer who simultaneously served as a Ministry of State Security representative.

    According to Balding, this engineer "engaged in behavior that describes planting information capture technology or software on Huawei products." He also worked on "building lawful interception capability into Huawei equipment" on projects both domestic and international.

    His study is not exhaustive and,
    in a blog post responding to criticism of his work, Balding said it was not designed to be an academic paper. In the post, Balding said he didn't undertake a more comprehensive study because public policy decision makers need information about Huawei now.


    "In an ideal world, we would take 6-12 months and turn out an in depth and comprehensive study. The reality is that countries are making crucial decisions right now involving Huawei," he wrote.


    The study comes just over a week after US
    President Donald Trump announced he was relaxing the government ban on Huawei. Even though Balding's work doesn't constitute concrete proof that Huawei is a proxy for the Chinese government, it is likely to rekindle anxieties in the White House and beyond.



    https://www.businessinsider.com/huawei-study-finds-connections-between-staff-and-chinese-intelligence-2019-7

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Gave NSS a modified unit with the backdoors removed. Even an idiot like Ohoh should be able to work that out.
    Of course they did ! Sheesh ! What else you expeck, Cookie-boy ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Cookie-boy
    More green stars , friends or other "official" stars from the unexceptional sheep

    You'll be getting invites to an island paradise soon, where compromising situations will be offered "freely", if asked just reply with a, "Baa, Baa" sound



    Wouldn't "Coolie-Boy" be more insulting, in this case possibly more useful, especially when used by a member/vassal of the "exceptional" clique?

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    And Ohoh is back to the pointless waffling - again.


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    Hahahaha the filthy chinkies know they're under the microscope. Everything they make must be riddled with backdoors, the wankers.



    The Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei has blocked more than a hundred products from being released on the market due to concerns that the items do not meet security standards, EURACTIV has learnt.


    A representative at Huawei’s Cybersecurity Lab in Shenzen, China, told EURACTIV last week that since the company cybersecurity chief John Suffolk took up his current post in 2011, he has issued ‘no go’ decisions on more than a hundred products, a right he has as the company’s global cybersecurity and privacy officer.

    “No go decisions are made when the product being evaluated does not match the security quality standards,” Suffolk told EURACTIV. “These include items such as clear text passwords in log files, or known vulnerabilities in third-party components or indeed penetration testing failures.”

    https://www.euractiv.com/section/5g/news/huawei-blocks-over-a-hundred-products-from-market-due-to-security-concerns/

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    Congratulations that you found a report illustrating how a Chinese company checks and bans any of it's products being sold or delivered to customers, if they are found to be unsafe

    It appears to be a win/win, keeping customers safe and assuring their own reputation

    I look forward to you posting the findings, from EURACTIV, on Huawei's global competitors


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Congratulations that you found a report illustrating how a Chinese company checks and bans any of it's products being sold or delivered to customers, if they are found to be unsafe

    It appears to be a win/win, keeping customers safe and assuring their own reputation

    I look forward to you posting the findings, from EURACTIV, on Huawei's global competitors

    They're only doing it because they know every fucker is watching them like a hawk.


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    Hoho thinks they're a nice, fair, law abiding lot with high moral character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Hoho thinks they're a nice, fair, law abiding lot with high moral character.
    No he doesn't, but he's a snivelling chinky sycophant with instructions to pump out chinky propaganda at every opportunity no matter how stupid it makes him look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    they're a nice,
    To it's shareholders, it's customers, whilst aligning with international industry agreements and local laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    they're fair,
    They are illustrating how a business, if it wants to retain and grow it's market share can act responsibly

    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    they're a law abiding lot
    Unlike others who hide and lie regarding their illusion to meet international agreements, regulators procedures, laws and commercial obligations

    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    with high moral character.
    A refreshing move from one country's industry leaders and a developing country at that! Possibly the "developed"countries should do likewise

    Huawei illustrate how clarity, compliance and communication can create a win/win, if only other companies were such, "nice, fair, law abiding lot with high moral character", there might be less bombs being dropped on innocent people
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    You forgot "And they are a bunch of thieving chinky bastards who are working for the chinky intelligence services, so don't buy their shit".

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