Thread: Turkey says journalist was murdered in Saudi consulate

How about this...

Iran: Riyadh would not have murdered Khashoggi without U.S. protection
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...KCN1MY132?il=0

“No one would imagine that in today’s world and a new century that we would witness such an organized murder and a system would plan out such a heinous murder,” Rouhani said, according to IRNA.
“I don’t think that a country would dare commit such a crime without the protection of America.”

Originally Posted by OhOh

I've seen suggestions that Turkey want control over the two holy sites in Saudi.

If they can show the world the Saudis are unworthy they may attain the role.

Like its some kind of franchise or something on a fucking lease deal... what you think they're gonna dig round them, pour in water and sail them to fucking Turkey you idiot??

Half the population of war-torn Yemen - 14 million people - are facing "pre-famine conditions"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-45964795

this shit is beautiful, it just exposes the whole international diplomacy as a big fooking joke

everybody is looking bad, politicians, business people, "democratic" leaders

^ Indeed....

Originally Posted by Neverna

I've been giving this some thought and I have come up with this idea/theory.

Turkey has 95 to 100% proof who did it and who ordered it including video or audio of MBS himself ordering the kill or mutilation/head chop off, etc.

Why do I think this? Turkey has been drip feeding information, leaking it bits at a time. At first the Saudis deny, deny, deny, then they squirm, then squirm some more, then they admit to something. Turkey can only do this if they have the information, or are cleverly putting bits together to force the Saudis into admitting something. The Turks have not blamed MBS directly. No, that would be too much too soon, playing their ace card too early. And I do think they have that ace card. That's why they are so confident and why they can play it this way. The way the Turks are doing it, the Saudis have the opportunity to tell the truth ... or lie. Each time they lie, they lose more credibility. But when they admit to something, they also lose credibility. So the Turks drag it out of them a bit at a time. The Saudi establishment will be in turmoil. Some Saudis have lost and some will lose their jobs, some will likely lose their heads. And when the Turks eventually play their ace card, MBS will fall, though perhaps not by the sword. In the end, a new Saudi crown prince will take the place of MBS and Turkey will get the credit for exposing the Saudis' nastiness. Perhaps the Turks hope or expect to gain more than that. I don't know. But that's my idea. It seems plausible. What do you think?

Plausible, if Erdogan has a) the goods, preferably obtained 'legally' for a 'civilised' audience, b) the understanding and intelligence to put together such a plan, c) the discipline to see it though, and d) the stamina to do so without premature ejaculation.

Originally Posted by Neo

Like its some kind of franchise or something on a fucking lease deal... what you think they're gonna dig round them, pour in water and sail them to fucking Turkey you idiot??

Not to mention that on the Arab popularity list, the turks come somewhere between the Pakistanis and the Bangladeshis....

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Not to mention that on the Arab popularity list

Whereas the Saudis are number 1 eh?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Whereas the Saudis are number 1 eh?

Saudis are Arabs you fucking mongoloid.

Jaysus are you that thick?

Originally Posted by tomcat

...generally speaking, many Gulf Arabs are deeply suspicious of other Gulf Arabs and unashamedly contemptuous of other Muslim nationalities like those from the subcontinent, Saharan Africa and, of course, converts...they're ok for cleaning up, manual labor and tedious office work, but not entirely welcome in host country mosques...

In my experience the Gulf Arabs get on OK most of the time, providing they are all Sunni; so generally speaking, you're just wrong about that part. The rest... oh yes.

A Bahraini did quite a quite amusing skit at the Edinburgh Festival a few years ago, showing how to tell them apart.

One thing that you've missed is that many of the major tribes in the Gulf span multiple countries, and many have multiple citizenships because of their loyalties to the various rulers.

There are much more atrocities every day in their inland and outland, does the "international community" give a damn?

Those evil rogues planned it.

Saudi Crisis Response now going according to plan.

Saudi prosecutors have called the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi "premeditated" for the first time, two days after Turkey's president also made the claim.


The Washington Post columnist's killing in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Oct. 2 was carried out with "prior intention," Saudi Attorney General Saud al-Mojeb said Thursday, according to the state-run Saudi Press Agency.

Prosecutors reached that conclusion based on information Saudi Arabia received from Turkey as part of the countries' joint investigation into Khashoggi's death, according to the statement from the attorney general.

https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=58738942

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

you're just wrong about that part

...well, my experience includes 24 years of living and working in Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi...and never living on a compound cut off from the masses...an old Beduin saying:

I, against my brothers. I and my brothers against my cousins. I and my brothers and my cousins against the world.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Those evil rogues planned it.

Saudi Crisis Response now going according to plan.


https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=58738942

Doesn't make sense for Saudi prosecutors to claim Saudi premeditation, surely they should be blaming Russia or Trump rather than point at a rogue crown prince, if they know what's good for them!

Originally Posted by tomcat

...well, my experience includes 24 years of living and working in Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi...and never living on a compound cut off from the masses...an old Beduin saying:

I, against my brothers. I and my brothers against my cousins. I and my brothers and my cousins against the world.

"...before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel.” ― Leon Uris, The Haj

...^Leon certainly knows his Arab sayings...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

A Bahraini did quite a quite amusing skit at the Edinburgh Festival a few years ago, showing how to tell them apart.

You wouldn't happen to be thinking of the Iranian comedian performing in Doha, would you?

Originally Posted by tomcat

...well, my experience includes 24 years of living and working in Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi...and never living on a compound cut off from the masses...an old Beduin saying:

I, against my brothers. I and my brothers against my cousins. I and my brothers and my cousins against the world.

31 here and you're still wrong.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

You wouldn't happen to be thinking of the Iranian comedian performing in Doha, would you?

Which bit of "Bahraini" and "Edinburgh Festival" do you need me to explain for you?

Originally Posted by jabir

Doesn't make sense for Saudi prosecutors to claim Saudi premeditation, surely they should be blaming Russia or Trump rather than point at a rogue crown prince, if they know what's good for them!

Ah, but this is their way of proving that they are being "honest".

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Which bit of "Bahraini" and "Edinburgh Festival" do you need me to explain for you?

Neither. Which part of the question, "you wouldn't happen to be thinking of..." do you need me to explain to you?

wtf are you on?

Originally Posted by cyrille

wtf are you on?

Nothing, Dimwit. You're very unimaginative and always fail to understand anything that is even slightly out of the box thinking.
Do you, like Harry, think Harry is infallible?
When he mentioned a Bahraini comic having a piece about distinguishing Arabs, I recalled the Iranian comic who did the same, and I mistakenly thought his act was done in Bahrain, but nonetheless thought it possible that he had made an innocent and understandable mis-recall, thus politely enquired if his memory was accurate. I mean, how many Middle Eastern comics perform in English and make jokes about Arabs?

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Neither. Which part of the question, "you wouldn't happen to be thinking of..." do you need me to explain to you?

You're an idiot.