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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    What you're forgetting is that it's only 70-odd years ago that they were one country and for 35 years before that it was under Japanese rule; There are plenty of families related on either side of the divide - not to mention a common language.
    And governed/a vassal country/ a major trade partner of China for centuries prior to that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    South Korean people don't like to even want to recognize North Korea
    Yet the South Korean voters made the choice of the current President, democratically!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    And she says she's a teacher? Fucking illiterate retard.
    The children she allegedly, teaches, are taught only two, three or four letter words. The rest of the time they are sleeping, running around or playing with crayons to get them tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    Hopefully she can return to her home in NK this year.
    It's DPRK to the citizens of that country.

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    A fuller announcement from the RPRK News Agency.

    Panmunjom Declaration on Peace, Prosperity and Reunification of Korean Peninsula


    Pyongyang, April 28 (KCNA) -- The respected Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un and President Moon Jae In signed the "Panmunjom Declaration on Peace, Prosperity and Reunification of Korean Peninsula" on April 27, the full text of which reads:

    Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea Kim Jong Un and President of the Republic of Korea Moon Jae In had the north-south summit talks at the "House of Peace" in Panmunjom on April 27, 2018 at the significant time when a historic turn is being made in the Korean peninsula, reflecting the unanimous desire of all the Koreans for peace, prosperity and reunification.

    The top leaders of the north and the south solemnly declared before the 80 million Koreans and the whole world that there would be no longer war and a new era of peace has opened on the Korean peninsula.

    They declared as follows in the historic land of Panmunjom, reflecting the firm will to put an end to division and confrontation, an outcome of the Cold War, at the earliest date, courageously open up a new era of national reconciliation, peace and prosperity and more actively improve and develop the north-south ties:

    1 The north and the south will achieve comprehensive and epochal improvement and development in the north-south ties and thus relink the severed blood vessel of the nation and bring earlier the future of common prosperity and independent reunification.

    It is the unanimous desire of all the Koreans and urgent requirement of the times which brooks no further delay to improve and develop the north-south ties.

    ①The north and the south confirmed the principle of national independence which specifies that the destiny of our nation is set by ourselves and agreed to open up a drastic phase in the improvement and development of the ties by thoroughly implementing the north-south declarations and all the agreements that had already been adopted.

    ②The north and the south agreed to hold dialogues and negotiations in all fields including the high-level talks at an earliest possible date and take active measures to implement the matters that have been agreed on at the summit talks.

    ③The north and the south agreed to set up a north-south joint liaison office where authorities of both sides will permanently reside in Kaesong area in order to ensure close discussion between the authorities and to satisfactorily provide NGO exchanges and cooperation.

    ④The north and the south agreed to invigorate multi-faceted cooperation, exchanges, visits and contacts of people of all social standings in order to give further momentum to the atmosphere of national reconciliation and unity.

    They agreed to actively promote joint national events participated in by people of all social standings including the authorities, parliaments, political parties, local autonomous bodies, and NGOs on the significant occasions of the north and south including June 15 and thus boost the atmosphere of reconciliation and cooperation inside while making joint advance into international games including 2018 Asian Games in order to demonstrate to the world the nation's resourcefulness, talents and unity.

    ⑤The north and the south agreed to exert efforts for the rapid settlement of humanitarian issues that are attributable to the national division and have north-south Red Cross talks in order to discuss and settle all the issues including the reunion of separated families and relatives.

    For the present, they agreed to hold the reunion of separated families and relatives with the upcoming August 15 as an occasion.

    ⑥The north and the south agreed to actively promote the projects agreed in the October 4 declaration in order to achieve the balanced development and common prosperity of the nation's economy, and to take practical measures to relink and modernize railways and roads on the eastern and western coasts on a priority basis for their active use.

    2 The north and the south will make joint efforts to defuse the acute military tensions and to substantially defuse the danger of a war on the Korean peninsula.

    It is a very important issue related to the destiny of the nation and a very crucial issue for ensuring peaceful and stable life of the Koreans to defuse military tensions and remove the danger of war from the Korean peninsula.

    ①The north and the south agreed to totally stop all hostile acts against the other side in all spaces including the ground, sea and air, the root cause of military tension and conflicts.

    For the present, they agreed to stop all the hostile acts including the loud-speaker broadcasting and scattering of leaflets in the areas along the Military Demarcation Line from May 1, dismantle their means and make the DMZ substantial peace zone in the future

    ②The north and the south agreed to turn the area of the "northern limit line" in the West Sea into peace waters and take substantial measures to prevent accidental military conflicts and ensure safe fishing operations there.

    ③The north and the south agreed to take various military measures depending on the invigoration of mutual cooperation, exchanges, visits and contacts.

    The north and the south agreed to often have military authorities talks including the talks between the defence ministers in order to discuss and settle the military issues that may arise between the two sides without delay, and to hold General-level military talks within May, to begin with.

    3 The north and the south will closely cooperate with each other to build a durable and lasting peace mechanism on the Korean peninsula.

    It is a historic task which brooks no further delay to terminate the present abnormal armistice situation and establish a firm peace mechanism on the Korean peninsula.

    ①The north and the south agreed to reconfirm the non-aggression agreement on non-use of any form of armed forces and strictly abide by it.

    ②The north and the south agreed to realize disarmament in a phased manner depending on the removal of military tension and the substantial building of military confidence between the two sides.

    ③The north and the south agreed to declare the end of war this year, the 65th anniversary of the Armistice Agreement, replace the AA with a peace accord and actively promote the holding of north-south-U.S. tripartite or north-south-China-U.S. four-party talks for the building of durable and lasting peace mechanism.

    ④The north and the south confirmed the joint target on turning the Korean peninsula into a nuclear-free zone through the complete denuclearization.
    The north and the south shared the acknowledgment that the active measures being taken by the north side are very significant and crucial steps for the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula, and agreed to fulfill each other's responsibility and role in the future.

    The north and the south agreed to make active efforts to elicit support and cooperation from the international community for the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula.

    The top leaders of the north and the south agreed to frequently have an in-depth discussion on the important matters for the nation through regular talks and hotlines, deepen confidence and jointly work hard to further expand the favorable trend toward the sustained development of the north-south ties and peace, prosperity and reunification of the Korean peninsula.

    For the present President Moon Jae In agreed to visit Pyongyang this fall.

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    http://tass.com/world/1002275

    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/full-text-of-panmunjom-declaration-for-peace-prosperity-and-unification-of-the-korean

    http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.special...iclePage.kcmsf
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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Being medically trained i could suggest some meds for you, but you seem so distanced from reality that I wouldn't feel comfortable subscribing you anything without a personal diagnosis
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    Did you regularly write subscriptions for patients?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I presume by back home you mean DPRK rather than China
    You assume correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The children she allegedly, teaches, are taught only two, three or four letter words. The rest of the time they are sleeping, running around or playing with crayons to get them tired.
    How the hell would you know, troll? I sure the hell have travelled and lived more places than you by the sounds of it. Get a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    It's DPRK to the citizens of that country.
    Oh stop being so fucking petty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Yet the South Korean voters made the choice of the current President, democratically!
    This makes no sense and no relation to what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    Yes, 30,000 defectors live in South Korea feeling like strangers and not treated well at all. Like this lady's story. Hopefully she can return to her home in NK this year.
    As the article you quoted says "Not all are happy to escape the regime". Hardly surprising that a few prefer the simple life they had before.

    That's a bit different to "30,000 defectors live in South Korea feeling like strangers and not treated well at all".

    From what I know, they are very different countries. South Korean people don't like to even want to recognize North Korea and I certainly learned the hard way never to call South Korea.. 'Korea'. It is South Korea to them.
    South Koreans hate and mistrust the North Korean regime for obvious reasons. They don't hate the North Korean people per se.

    For example, they didn't blame the North Korean people for blowing up KAL858, any more than they blamed the residents of Vladivostok for blowing up KAL007.

    They may not unify (or even unificate) in your lifetime, but you may well see open borders, an end to the war and the removal of the DMZ.

    They all love kim chi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    I sure the hell have travelled and lived more places than you by the sounds of it. Get a clue.
    Oh well, we should all bow down to your superior knowledge then, O great one.


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    All....as told and interpreted through Western eyes and perspectives.
    Doesn't hold up.

    Never did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    South Koreans hate and mistrust the North Korean regime for obvious reasons. They don't hate the North Korean people per se.

    For example, they didn't blame the North Korean people for blowing up KAL858, any more than they blamed the residents of Vladivostok for blowing up KAL007.
    I realize that and I never said that.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They may not unify (or even unificate) in your lifetime, but you may well see open borders, and end to the war and the removal of the DMZ.
    Maybe, but as I said before, I very highly doubt it. Some of my best friends are South Koreans and they laugh at North Korea and the antics of the NK leaders. Many of the people don't want to help or support Kim. I don't see much changing from what I've seen. Would be great if I was proven wrong though. I hope for peace, but with insane people in charge, you will never get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh well, we should all bow down to your superior knowledge then, O great one.
    I was talking to OhOh, and I wish you and others would just talk to me like one of your guys on here.

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    ^ respect has to earned . it cannot be demanded .
    you attempt to give off this air of superiority , but it just shows your ignorance and lack of intellect .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    I was talking to OhOh, and I wish you and others would just talk to me like one of your guys on here.
    Ah, so you yearn to be unificated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    I realize that and I never said that.
    No, you said:

    "Yes, 30,000 defectors live in South Korea feeling like strangers and not treated well at all."

    And posted the story of one malcontent as if that justified your remark.

    A feeble attempt at debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    I sure the hell have travelled and lived more places than you by the sounds of it
    List the countries you have lived and worked in and citizenships you hold? By continent if you wish. Put up or shut up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    they are just too different
    How different they are?
    They have the same language, same culture, same history, same discipline and the same hatred: they hate Japanese and they hate the ones who killed millions of their population at both sides...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    This makes no sense and no relation to what I said.
    Care to illustrate the nonsense. Below is my retort. I await your withdrawal or rebuttal or rebuttal.

    You posted:

    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    From what I know, they are very different countries. South Korean people don't like to even want to recognize North Korea and I certainly learned the hard way never to call South Korea
    So we are to believe that from your "observations", "from what you know" and your post, "South Korean people don't like to even want to recognize North Korea".

    You have a better knowledge of what ROK citizens desire.

    Unfortunately for you and your presumptive claim, the ROK citizens democratically voted, quite recently, to elect the candidate, for ROK Presidency, who specifically called for Reunification whilst canvassing for his countries citizens vote, and he WON the Presidency.

    Hmm, who are we to believe?

    You a known menopausal idiot or somebody who has achieved, so far in his life, a damn sight more than you ever will. He has shown the world yesterday how a countries leader can act decisively. You on the other hand parade yourself here for your own vanity and threaten time, after time, after time, .......... to run away and sulk.

    When, oh when, will you do as you promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    How the hell would you know, troll?
    Family members. One a world renowned, published expert of an Asian Countrie's literature, another worked themselves up from a Teaching Assistant in an infants/junior school to Head of English at a secondary school and lastly a third currently running a foreign language radio station in Europe.

    Your pedigree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    This makes no sense and no relation to what I said.
    Care to illustrate the nonsense. Below is my retort. I await your withdrawal or rebuttal.

    You posted:

    Quote Originally Posted by Thailandbound View Post
    From what I know, they are very different countries. South Korean people don't like to even want to recognize North Korea and I certainly learned the hard way never to call South Korea
    So we are to believe that from your "observations", "from what you know" and your post, "South Korean people don't like to even want to recognize North Korea".

    You have a better knowledge of what ROK citizens desire.

    Unfortunately for you and your presumptive claim, the ROK citizens democratically voted, quite recently, to elect the candidate, for ROK Presidency, who specifically called for Reunification whilst canvassing for his countries citizens vote, and he WON the Presidency.

    Hmm, who are we to believe?

    You a known menopausal idiot or somebody who has achieved, so far in his life, a damn sight more than you ever will. He has shown the world yesterday how a countries leader can act decisively. You on the other hand parade yourself here for your own vanity and threaten time, after time, after time, .......... to run away and sulk.

    When, oh when, will you do as you promise.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh well, we should all bow down to your superior knowledge then
    Be careful she is using a "second-person plural present indicative".

    Even THE LORD doesn't utilise such weapons.
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    ^Hey!!! "Some of her best friends are South Korean". Fucking amazing that for months every time she gets slammed for being stupid about country X or Y, she immediately responds with the same "some of my best friends......." crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    How different they are?
    They have the same language, same culture, same history, same discipline and the same hatred: they hate Japanese and they hate the ones who killed millions of their population at both sides.
    Hmm, very different.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-k...chwitz-n828751

    Report: North Korean Defector Reveals Secret Kim Jong-un Atrocities ? Faithwire

    To name just a few.

    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/201...rs/north-korea

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You have a better knowledge of what ROK citizens desire.
    I know quite a bit based on living there for four years and interacting with people from South Korea. Elders and young people alike. Have you ever lived in South Korea? Why should I post where I lived and such? I was responding to your infantile remark on what I do for a living and this is very insulting. Don't ever insult my intelligence, when you have no idea whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^Hey!!! "Some of her best friends are South Korean". Fucking amazing that for months every time she gets slammed for being stupid about country X or Y, she immediately responds with the same "some of my best friends......." crap.
    YOU immature dickface have been stalking me all night. Get the hint asshole, I don't want to talk to you. I am telilng you that you know shit and all you know how to do is stalk people.

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