...memories are long in the Gulf...humiliations are forever...Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
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...memories are long in the Gulf...humiliations are forever...Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Nope. Just plain wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcat
There was no military reason to invade Iraq. Saddam was no threat to anyone but his local Shi'a.
I presume you have the required link, this is worldnews, or is this just an opinion you've thrown in here for 'arry to repeat and hence make it fact?Quote:
Originally Posted by RPETER65
3...... 2........1
You along with 1,000s of others good catch 'arry.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Wow you read my posts, excellent. The heat burns things and the polluted air drifts away with the wind. I learnt that at 6 years old as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Looks like smoke trailing away so yes some sort of smoke. Good catch 'arry. I'm more concerned with the CW burning and being carries away by the hot air. Killing whoever is downwind. But I'm sure some politician believes "it's worth it" once again.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
You ain't a lawyer are you 'arry? The next thing you will want pesky evidence to be included in your "due process".Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
We are talking about Assad and Putin here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
I don't know the chemistry too well but heating air, by causing explosions and combining the hot or very hot air with a CW I would suggest evaporates the liquid ones, carries the "jet milled" micro particle ones or aerosol born ones along with it, seem plausible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
Already introduced biological weapons causing thousands of Yemeni civilians to die. But the "oh so concerned" world is suspiciously silent on the good SA government, the ameristani handlers and the European weapon suppliers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Airportwo
Fair warning, illegal use of lethal weapons on a foreign countries citizens is actually frowned on by most 'arry.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Not when they invite the investigators in ....... no.
And I can guarantee he's a lying fucker.Quote:
"I can guarantee that Russia has not tampered with the site," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told the BBC.
EXACTLY As predicted, it's "not safe" for the OPCW to go to the site until tomorrow.
Plenty of time for a good cleanup.
Of course he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Not safe for chemical weapons experts. Right...Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
I see France is now saying that evidence of the "Suspected" chemical attack is likely to disappear before the inspectors can get there.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mi...-idUKKBN1HO1HK
Or could it possibly be that they will find nothing because there was nothing there to find which would make France look foolish for going off half cocked without any proof whatsoever.
Fcuk, Harry you really are funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
:chitown:Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
OPCW chemical weapons inspectors enter Douma – Syrian state media
"A team of inspectors from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) has arrived in the Syrian town of Douma, to investigate a reported attack from two weeks ago, Syrian state media reported.
The team arrived in Syria earlier this week, but its deployment on the ground in the Damascus suburb was slowed down by "security concerns." Douma was freed by Syrian government forces last week, after a Russia-brokered agreement with Jaysh al-Islam militants occupying the town resulted in their mass evacuation to Syria's north. Civilians who had been forced to endure life under the militants left the town through humanitarian corridors in their thousands."
https://www.rt.com/news/424384-opcw-chemical-inspectors-enter-douma/
International chemicals' experts enter Douma
"AMMAN, April 17 (KUNA) -- The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons team entered the town of Douma in East Ghouta on Tuesday, the state-run Syrian Television said.
The team arrived in Syria on April 14 and held talks with Syrian officials, with participation of Russian officers. Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Al-Moqdad, who led he talks with the international experts, said the team mission would be facilitated.
Douma reportedly was targeted with a chemical attack on April 7 leaving scores of people killed, injured or suffering from suffocation.
Both the Syrian regime and the opposition have traded accusations as which party was responsible for the deadly attack."
https://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=2719754&Language=en#
OPCW chemical weapons investigators enter Douma
"Syrian state media said on Tuesday that investigators had entered the town outside Damascus.
"Experts from the chemical weapons committee enter the town of Douma," state news agency SANA wrote."
https://news.sky.com/story/opcw-chemical-weapons-investigators-enter-douma-11334938
FIFY xxxxQuote:
Originally Posted by birding
I think we've been rogered (again) with wilful misinformation from our own (elected) leaders striking recklessly and with impunity at a nation that is incapable of retaliation, to be seen as 'ard, and knowing they can control the release of info on grounds of national security.
Unfortunately the EU wasn't directly involved, otherwise it would have been more obvious.
And still in shock that the French didn't surrender!
A notice on the OPCW site regarding a meeting held on the 14th.
https://www.opcw.org/news/article/op...ting-on-syria/
One delegates speech at the meeting:
https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/...l_16_April.pdf
Same old same old.
I see one of the options Syria tried to palm them off with was to stay in Damascus and meet 22 "witnesses".
Fucking hell, they must be thick as fucking shit if they think anyone would fall for that one.
:)
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OPCW personnel arrived in Syria on Saturday to investigate a suspected chemical weapons attack in Douma, which the United States and other Western countries say was committed by the Assad regime. After five days of delay in Syria and 11 days since the attack itself, the OPCW appeared to have finally “entered” Douma on Tuesday, according to Syrian state TV.
Russia had previously said the investigators would be allowed to access the site of the attack on Wednesday and it was not immediately clear whether their work would begin on Tuesday or Wednesday. The OPCW has so far not independently confirmed reports of their team's arrival.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.7fb5ac5ee16a
If the other "sources" had accredited staff in Syria, as opposed to copying from a web page, they may have been able to confirm and even clarify the situation/announcement. But that would involve effort.
:)
If you put as much effort into finding facts as you do quoting Russian bullshit and making up stories, you'd be a fucking genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
Are you being delibertely obtuse or just clumsily trolling?Quote:
Originally Posted by RPETER65
Nobody's comparing Iraq to Syria.
I am giving you an example of how governments, particularly the US government in this case, lie to the public and offer false "evidence" to motivate support for their political, military, and military-industrial ambitions, not to mention whatever Israel wants them to do. Whether it's WOMD in Iraq or chemical weapons in Syria.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8307726.htmlQuote:
It was a short walk to Dr Rahaibani. From the door of his subterranean clinic – “Point 200”, it is called, in the weird geology of this partly-underground city – is a corridor leading downhill where he showed me his lowly hospital and the few beds where a small girl was crying as nurses treated a cut above her eye.
“I was with my family in the basement of my home three hundred metres from here on the night but all the doctors know what happened. There was a lot of shelling [by government forces] and aircraft were always over Douma at night – but on this night, there was wind and huge dust clouds began to come into the basements and cellars where people lived. People began to arrive here suffering from hypoxia, oxygen loss. Then someone at the door, a “White Helmet”, shouted “Gas!”, and a panic began. People started throwing water over each other. Yes, the video was filmed here, it is genuine, but what you see are people suffering from hypoxia – not gas poisoning.”
It's still fucking laughable no matter how many threads you post it in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Hypoxia!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
harry, it's still fucking laughable no matter how many laugh smilies you post and much you insult those you disagree with that you so easily believe the pentagon when it says it has evidence that assad used chemical weapons in douma.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
and, when the Pentagon is asked by a reporter to show the evidence, the pentagon spokesman says it's top secret, classified, blah, blah, blah.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
not sure why you're laughing, harry.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
robert fisk is a respected journalist (reporting from the m.e. for 40+ years) and he reported from on the ground in douma.
it's definitely a theory worth considering, IMO.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8307726.html
It was a short walk to Dr Rahaibani. From the door of his subterranean clinic – “Point 200”, it is called, in the weird geology of this partly-underground city – is a corridor leading downhill where he showed me his lowly hospital and the few beds where a small girl was crying as nurses treated a cut above her eye.
“I was with my family in the basement of my home three hundred metres from here on the night but all the doctors know what happened. There was a lot of shelling [by government forces] and aircraft were always over Douma at night – but on this night, there was wind and huge dust clouds began to come into the basements and cellars where people lived. People began to arrive here suffering from hypoxia, oxygen loss.
Then someone at the door, a “White Helmet”, shouted “Gas!”, and a panic began. People started throwing water over each other. Yes, the video was filmed here, it is genuine, but what you see are people suffering from hypoxia – not gas poisoning.”
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2018/04/613.jpg
Harry the Trump apologist prefers the fake news version he gets from the Twitterati where America is the champion of justice and Wog land is there for target practice.
The Putin girls choir talking about fake news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Priceless!
:rofl:
So Russia controls Douma, and apparently it's not safe enough for the OPCW.
But it's safe enough for them to bring Poolside journo and career American hater Fisk there to declare it "Fake News".
And the Putin girls choir don't suspect a thing.
What a bunch of morons.
:)
And yet more lies from the Putin girls choir:
Syria: Chemical weapons experts await UN security team clearance to enter Douma | News | DW | 18.04.2018Quote:
Syria's UN ambassador told the United Nations Security Council Tuesday that a UN security team traveled to the town of Douma, outside capital Damascus, to ascertain whether it was safe for global chemical weapons experts to visit the site of a suspected chemical weapons attack last week that killed dozens.
Bashar Ja'afari said if the team decides "the situation is sound," the fact-finding mission from the international chemical weapons watchdog — Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons — will start work there Wednesday.
Earlier on Tuesday, Syrian state media falsely reported that members of the world's chemical weapons watchdog had entered Douma.
dumber than snub... you have at least proved something to us harry :chitown:
https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=11884&stc=1Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
No surprise there. To busy slurping up Putin man juice.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
I would say that by preponderance of the evidence you are the dumb brainwashed fool. Your tin foil hat has long ago choked off the oxygen to what few brain cells you have left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Of course it is worth considering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
The US, UK and France say that there is irrefutable proof, yet they are unwilling to show us that proof, they are not even willing to wait for the OPCW to investigate.. instead the video of the alleged victims has been used by the media to create momentum behind the US, UK and French narrative.
Now three news agencies, the Independent in the UK, AFP in France and NTV in Germany have all visited Douma and they have spoken to people who were in that video or in proximity on the night in question that say there was no chemical attack.
Who to believe? Should we jump to simple conclusions, or should we weigh up the evidence first?
At this point, with no evidence coming from the US, UK or France, or from the OPCW I would consider that the information coming from reporters on the ground of eyewitness accounts to the event hold considerably more credence than the MSM narrative.
Of course harry and snub will say that the Russians have forced the witnesses to say that under duress, but it seems unlikely in reality. The reporters seem to have gained access to the witnesses simply by going off the beaten journalist track and making their own way to the neighborhood and hospital where this alleged incident took place, many of those interviewed seemed totally unaware of the furore brewing outside of Douma over the alleged incident and surprised that the interviewer thought there had been a chemical attack.
Should we just wait to see what the OPCW have to say?
If they say there is no evidence, will harry and snub behave like good MSM lab rats and say that the Russians have cleaned away all traces before the OPCW got there..? Most probably. That's certainly bound to be the US. UK and French position.
And what if the OPCW say there is evidence of a chemical attack? Will Russia and Syria accuse the OPCW of being in the pocket of the US, UK and France and escalate the conflcit even further?
Either way it seems the US agenda will continue unabated, after all in this case they have already concluded they are right and sent missiles in to fufil their sense of American justice.
At this point, I'm happy to consider the view of the jounalists that have visited Douma as the most credible evidence we have so far.
Again fucknuts:Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
It's "not safe" for the OPCW to go there (when their job is obviously time sensitive)...
But it's OK for an anti-American hack to go there and interview a stooge.
You really are as thick as shit.
:rofl:
You do not come across shit that thick often.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
How very ironic harry to claim I am thick as shit yet don't see the incongruity you present.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Reporters (plural) have already visited Douma.
and
It's not safe for OPCW to visit Douma.
Who says it's not safe for the OPCW to go there harry? Russia? Syria? Link?
Pointless.
the missile strikes I hope you mean :)
No talking sense to a Putin knob gobbler like yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
hey snub do you remember when dumbert used to be your friend.. and how he stopped hanging out with you online because you were making him look like an even bigger moron than he already is
:chitown:
^ It is pretty funny that you call anyone who does not worship Putin dumb. The fact is that you are subservient to Russian propaganda and have been for a long time. It is you who is being hoodwinked not me. Like I said loosen that tin foil hat before your last brain cell dies.
More waffling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Putin girls choir SOP.
If reporters have already visited Douma since the chemical attack, isn't it dreadfully convenient that the only one who found someone barking on with some ludicrous story about hypoxia happened to be poolside hack and seppo hater Robert Fisk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Nothing suspicious about that is there?
:rofl:
Robert Fisk is an utter bozo and no one in their right mind should take anything he writes seriously.
https://pulsemedia.org/2016/12/03/ro...st-journalism/Quote:
For the past four years Fisk has reported from Syria embedded with the regime. The regime herds him to the places it wants him to see and the people it wants him to interrogate—and Fisk appears to yield to the controlling arms of his handlers with the somnambulant innocence of a debutante. On more than a few occasions he has echoed the regime line without demur. Take Daraya. After a horrific regime massacre, Fisk arrived at the site “in the company of armed Syrian forces” riding an “armoured vehicle” and after interviewing a few frightened survivors, wrote that contrary to “the popular version that has gone round the world”, the massacre was the outcome of a “failed prisoner swap”; the men who committed the crime “were armed insurgents rather than Syrian troops”.
In Daraya, however, no one was aware of this “prisoner swap”. And even his own interviewees didn’t support his conclusions. Most gave evasive answers. And the only interviewee he cites as supporting his theory casts further doubt on it: “Although he had not seen the dead in the graveyard,” writes Fisk, “he believed that most were related to the government army”.
seppo hater huh... just like I'm a putin lover and you're a trump apologist eh harry.. how dreadfully convenient for youQuote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
what is inconvenient for you is that he's not the only journalist and the Independent is not the only news outlet carrying similar reports
:chitown:
I would suggest you read some more of his nonsense. Then I'm pretty sure you'll agree with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Try stuff that isn't joined up writing, you might understand it better.
harry and snub eh... :love: what could possibly be the attraction for you harry?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
that you seem slightly more intelligent in comparison?
that you're both fantasists with delusions of grandeur?
or is it because he's American.. you'd love to be an American wouldn't you harry? :rofl: