Thread: Israeli army kills 17 Palestinians in Gaza protests

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

Jews have been using the antisemitism thing as blunt instrument to stifle any criticism.

But who dares to speak up? There was one who had the balls () to question why the Palestinians have to suffer for holocaust, why not bring the fighting to Germany? It was the first lady of WH journos, reporting 5 POTUSes, Helen Thomas, daily not given the chance by GW.
Then, what she had to face for an outcry...

I'm drawing parallels.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

What does it have to do

. . . anything in this thread? Like your usual shit - nothing. It's whataboutism . . . I never realised how easy it is to do a Klondyke/OhNo/Skidmark and just post whatever . . .

Muslims murdered by 'Christian' Russians . . . where's the outcry? Where the condemnation? What did China have to say???



Total destruction . . . by Russians

Originally Posted by pickel

No point in watching it. The predictable veto from the US will happen again.

Nothing new, so what's all the excitement about? Trump and Kushner made that very clear.
The real scandal is the failing support from the Arabs.
O.K. I take that back.That is also nothing new.
Maybe that's because when they look at Israel they are actually looking into a mirror?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

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Yeh, the Palestinian muslims are not so lucky as the Kosovo muslims when the NATO generously bestow them with independent state and fiercely bombed the ones who opposed that...

That must have left a big scar to all those brave little Chetnik scumbags.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

Politics is the art of the posible.

Yes and it is possible that Biden has realized that the conflict is almost insoluble at least as long as Netanyahu who is against a two-state solution is Israels leader.

Biden, as VP under Obama, participated himself in peace negotiations and saw how Obama stabbed his forehead bloody to bring about a final peace agreement between Israel and Palestine so he may be quite a bit disillusioned now...

It seems the right wing Israeli lobbies, in cohorts with the MI complex and those weird evangelical Christians basically rule American policy. More so than the people and their vote, more so than the elected US government- whichever party. I mean, Israel even gets America to pay billions of dollars to it annually, while it totally and openly stabs the civilised world in the back with respect to making any progress towards peace, or halting the systematic colonisation of Palestine. Yet the US government seemingly does not even have the power on making these massive annual payments contingent on Israel making any sort of progress, or exhibiting any form of good faith. just bizarre.

Neither side is going to go away so it would suit both the Israelis and the Palestinians to come to an agreement on a two state solution and then to live peacefully with each other, and helping each other as good neighbours do. Unfortunately, it seems that successive Israeli governments have not had the vision or the cajones to get anywhere near to that solution.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Unfortunately, it seems that successive Israeli governments have not had the vision or the cajones to get anywhere near to that solution.

I'm guessing that if one government gets it wrong and Israel isn't prepared, they'll be erased. History has shown us that there are hundreds of millions surrounding them whose aim, some even in their version of a constitution, is to destroy Israel, to drive the Jews into the sea. Palestinians themselves have shown what they can and did do when given the chance . . . in Jordan.

It's just too easy for us to talk about in absolute terms , I think

Originally Posted by panama hat

I'm guessing that if one government gets it wrong and Israel isn't prepared, they'll be erased. History has shown us that there are hundreds of millions surrounding them whose aim, some even in their version of a constitution, is to destroy Israel, to drive the Jews into the sea. Palestinians themselves have shown what they can and did do when given the chance . . . in Jordan.

Removing the "Palestinian issue" (with the Palestinians having a viable state) will remove a great deal of hatred towards Israel, in the region and in the wider world. And having two states living side by side harmoniously will allow Israel to focus on bigger threats to the Israeli state. I don't think Israel will ever be unprepared for war.

I think the Netanyahu government has deliberately killed the two state solution actually. But right wing Israel persists in this ethnic cleansing/ genocide fantasy. Ain't gonna happen- the Palis are going nowhere, surely that is as obvious as the line on ones palm by now. So a combined state with jewish and palestinian citizens is the way forward- just like every other first world state in this world with a diverse citizenry. When will Israel accept the inevitable, or be forced to? This is an apartheid struggle. And when will the US and EU grow some cojones- your citizens are getting restless.

Originally Posted by sabang

I think the Netanyahu government has deliberately killed the two state solution actually.

I think that this whole thing is a ruse to keep that SOB in power. Bibi and the boys just happened to look the other way and let some rockets slip across the boarder so that they could start this "war".

Originally Posted by bsnub

Bibi and the boys just happened to look the other way and let some rockets slip across the boarder so that they could start this "war".

Almost certainly.

Every time Netanayu is in trouble domestically there seems to arise a "foreign threat".

Originally Posted by lom

Biden has been unexpectedly silent about the killing of civilians in Palestine, unexpectedly since human rights is a foundation bolt of his foreign policy.

I take it that you expected better of Biden.

Anyone else ?

In one of the american parties, the jews has a "say".

In the other the evangelicals rules.

Forget it

Time to let some adults in the room? After over 50 years with no progress made by the US, I would say so:-


China Calls for Immediate Cease-Fire Between Israel, Palestinians, Offers to Host Peace Talk

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Wang used the opportunity to take a swipe at the United States for "obstructing" the council's efforts to take action on the conflict Sunday. Wang reiterated an immediate cease-fire and an end to Israel's blockade and ongoing siege of Gaza. Wang said Beijing supports the establishment of an independent Palestinian state that uses the 1967 East Jerusalem border as its capital and allows each side to coexist in the disputed areas.

Wang on Sunday looked to assert China's role in promoting lasting Middle East peace talks and said Beijing believes the root cause of the current deterioration is there has never been a just solution for the Palestinian people. The Chinese Communist Party envoy to the U.N. told the 15-member Security Council that Israel needs to stop expelling Palestinians from their homes and to respect Muslim religious sites in disputed parts of East Jerusalem. But Wang also chastised the Palestinian National Authority for escalating violence by firing rockets toward Tel Aviv this past week.


Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi used the country's current role at the top of the United Nations Security Council to propose an immediate cease-fire between Israel and Palestine as well as an offer to host two-state solution talks.

China Calls for Immediate Cease-Fire Between Israel, Palestinians, Offers to Host Peace Talks (msn.com)


This will no doubt put amerkin noses out of joint, but what do they have to show except over half a century of failure, and absolute pandering to the opressor?

Originally Posted by sabang

China Calls for Immediate Ceasefire

Ahh, of course, the Chinese! The champions of human rights!

Congrats Sabang, you have fully morphed into ohoh

I don't care of Djibouti brokers a just and lasting peace accord frankly. I just know that, after over half a century, America has epically failed.

Originally Posted by sabang

America has epically failed.

Agree, but China is not the adult or the solution. Hence the hoohoo reference, but the deliberate 'misunderstanding' is equally on brand.

Originally Posted by TeaBag

America has epically failed

Hey, Desmond Tutu, outside of the United States how many countries have stepped up to the plate, and tried to get the two sides together?

Originally Posted by panama hat

Oh dear . . . while we're at it let's have the US broker peace talks between Uighurs and Beijing.

Oh, wait a minute! Swallow your Beijing supplied talking points like a good lemming. Sabang has already informed us that the Uighurs walk down candy cane lanes and live in the lap of luxury as supplied by the CCP.

Right, forgot . . . thanks snubbs