Thread: Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance

Originally Posted by bsnub

Right I am guessing you skipped over the post Harry made regarding the comments made by the chemist who utterly destroyed Craig Murray's tin foil theory that you bozos are still clinging to.

You are wrong in your assumption above.

To be able to follow this story impartially I always read 'arrys posts. Sometimes they warrant a response, sometime they amuse me.

I'm guessing you skipped over my post #270 with an alternate opinion from a respected university professor employed in ameristan. Who obviously is aware of the ease in which he could lose his respectability and career, due to the current attitude by some to stop free speech in ameristan

It really is a waste of time with these numpties. The confirmation bias is way over the top with them.

Originally Posted by OhOh

respected university professor

He is not respected at all he is a crackpot and all you have to do is google his name to see it. As soon as I read this I knew he was a clown;

ZeroHedge is by far my preferred consolidator of news.

Typical of the type of shit you dig up but still a FAIL!

Renewed appeal for information from anyone who saw Salisbury victim's car


Renewed appeal for information from anyone who saw Salisbury... - Metropolitan Police"Police are renewing appeals for information from members of the public who may have seen the burgundy red BMW owned by the man found seriously ill in Salisbury.

Officers are today releasing a picture of Sergei Skripal's burgundy red BMW 320D saloon - registration plate HD09 WAO - about which they appealed for information earlier this week.


Sergei, 66, and his daughter Yulia Skripal, 33, were found seriously ill on a bench in Salisbury town centre on Sunday, 4 March. Scientists determined this to be the result of a military grade nerve agent. Both Sergei and Yulia remain in a critical condition in hospital.

A Wiltshire Police officer - Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, who was among those first to respond to the incident - was also taken ill and remains in a serious but stable condition in hospital.


Met Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu said: "We are learning more about Sergei and Yulia's movements but we need to be clearer around their exact movements on the morning of the incident.


"We believe that at around 9.15am on Sunday, 4 March, Sergei's car may have been in the areas of London Road, Churchill Way North and Wilton Road. Then at around 1.30pm it was seen being driven down Devizes Road, towards the town centre.

"We need to establish Sergei and Yulia's movements during the morning, before they headed to the town centre. Did you see this car, or what you believe was this car, on the day of the incident? We are particularly keen to hear from you if you saw the car before 1.30pm. If you have information, please call the police on 101."


Anyone who has images or footage that may assist the investigation is asked to upload them at the secure websitehttp://www.ukpoliceimageappeal.co.uk

AC Basu continued: "In any investigation, the information we receive from the public can be crucial to helping the police build a picture of events and in this case the public response has been immense. Around 400 witnesses have already given statements, with hundreds more to be taken in the coming days.

"This is an extremely challenging and complex investigation and we currently have around 250 exceptionally experienced and dedicated specialist officers from the counter terrorism network working around the clock on this case.


"They are being supported by hundreds more officers from across the police family, as well as the military and other emergency services.

"To date, detectives have recovered 762 exhibits and are trawling through around 4,000 hours of CCTV. They are making good progress in what is a painstaking investigation that is likely to be ongoing for weeks, if not months."


Police have today released the following updated timeline of events (all times approximate):



14.40hrs on Saturday 3 March: Yulia arrives at Heathrow Airport on a flight from Russia.

09.15hrs on Sunday, 4 March: Sergei's car is seen in the area of London Road, Churchill Way North and Wilton Road.

13.30hrs: Sergei's car is seen being driven down Devizes Road, towards the town centre.
13:40hrs: Sergei and Yulia arrive in Sainsbury's upper level car park at the Maltings. At some time after this, they go to the Bishops Mill Pub in the town centre.

14.20hrs: They dine at Zizzi Restaurant.

15:35hrs: They leave Zizzi Restaurant.

16.15hrs: Emergency services receive a report from a member of the public and police arrive at the scene within minutes, where they find Sergei and Yulia extremely ill on a park bench near the restaurant.


As the investigation continues, the local community will continue to see a police presence at various sites across Salisbury, and also in Dorset where the military have been helping police remove a number of vehicles and items.


AC Basu explained: "Public Health England has advised that the risk to the public is low. I would like to reassure anyone who may be concerned by the continued presence of officers wearing specialist protective clothing that they are wearing this as a precaution and that it is not an indication of an increased risk."


Anyone with concerns regarding the ongoing police activity at these locations is encouraged to speak to any of the local officers or PCSOs at the locations, who will be happy to offer reassurance.


For the full advice from Public Health England, please see http://www.gov.uk/government/news/pu...s-in-salisbury




Three points:

1. "They are making good progress in what is a painstaking investigation that is likely to be ongoing for weeks, if not months." - The story will have disappeared from the daily news cycle, overtaken by more "topical" events. Sound familiar?

2. "A Wiltshire Police officer - Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, who was among those first to respond to the incident - was also taken ill and remains in a serious but stable condition in hospital. - Not explanation of how or where the detective became involved and affected. Where was he was affected and what he was responding too at the time, hmmmmmmm? Some are alleging he was affected inside the attacked man's house.

3. "To date, detectives have recovered 762 exhibits and are trawling through around 4,000 hours of CCTV. - Unfortunately none from the main square in Salisbury? With open spaces and seats which suggests it would be a prime area to monitor normally, as many "incidents" may take place their every day. But I'm sure the police have records that would support the numbers of normal incidents and hence, by installing CCTV cameras, would or would not be justified. To keep the peace in the quiet, cathedral city of Salisbury etc. If they do have any CCTV cameras in the square, the attack on the two would "highly likely" be visible and any suspects possibly traceable. As, if administered at this point in location and time, this super CW which acts in seconds we are led to believe.

4. "police arrive at the scene within minutes" - All of them forget to turn on their cameras duh!



I leave the witness box to others, for the next witness to give any evidence to assist this high Court of TD, under the tutelage of The Honourable Judge Sir 'arry of "a nondescript ME entity" QC. I remain, at your service, should the need require a recall to the box.

Cheers and applause from the public benches. Flash explosion from the attendant news reporter's cameras and TV commentators shouting further questions.

Bedlam rules in a quiet High court in rural Wiltshire once again.
Sky news.

Originally Posted by bsnub

He is not respected at all he is a crackpot and all you have to do is google his name to see it. As soon as I read this I knew he was a clown;

His CV:

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Educational Background

• PhD, Columbia University
• MS, Columbia University
• MA, Columbia University
• BS, Cornell University

Publications

• Solution Structures of Lithium Amino Alkoxides Used in Highly Enantioselective 1,2-Additions. Bruneau, A. M.; Collum, D. B. J. Am. Chem. Soc. 2014, 53, 2885.
• Method of Continuous Variations: Applications of Job Plots to the Study of Molecular Associations in Organometallic Chemistry. Renny, J. S.; Tomasevich, L. L.; Tallmadge, E. H.; Collum, D. B. Angew. Chem., Int. Ed. 2013, 52, 11998.
• Enediolate-Dilithium Amide Mixed Aggregates in the Enantioselective Alkylation of Arylacetic Acids: Structural Studies and a Stereochemical Model. Ma, Y.; Stivala, C. E.; Wright, A. M.; Hayton, T.; Liang, J.; Keresztes, I.; Lobkovsky, E.; Collum, D. B.; Zakarian, Z. J. Am. Chem. Soc. 2013, 135, 16853.
• Azaaldol Condensation of a Lithium Enolate Solvated by N,N,N’,N’ Tetramethylethylenediamine: Dimer-Based 1,2-Addition to Imines. De Vries, T. S.; Bruneau, A. M.; Liou, L. R.; Subramanian, H.; Collum, D. B. J. Am. Chem. Soc. 2013, 135, 4214.
• Regioselective Lithium Diisopropylamide-Mediated Ortholithiation of 1-Chloro-3-(trifluoromethyl)benzene: Role of Autocatalysis, Lithium Chloride Catalysis, and Reversibility. Hoepker, A. C.; Gupta, L.; Ma, Y.; Faggin, M. F.; Collum, D. B. J. Am. Chem. Soc. 2011, 133, 7135.

Which maketh to hoist with his own petard are verily cardinal location herewith appear.

Hey

Paper from 1st of January 2017 where Iranian researchers synthesized Novichok agents.

Iranian chemists identify Russian chemical warfare agents - Ezine - spectroscopyNOW.com

Chemical weapons’ detection requires good analytical data


Chemical weapons, and their precursors, were banned by the Chemical Weapons Convention, which has been signed and ratified by nearly all the countries in the world. However, the illegal use of chemical weapons, whether by state agencies or terrorist organisations, remains a threat. Chemical weapons were used by Iraqi forces in the 1980s against Iranian forces and Kurdish civilians. Some chemical weapons, such as chlorine gas, are believed to have been used in recent years in the Syrian civil war.

Current databases include mass spectra of the more common chemical warfare agents; however, more work needs to be carried out on rarer agents. The so-called ‘Novichok’ agents are a range of highly toxic nerve agents developed in the Soviet Union in the 1970s and 1980s. The literature on their spectral properties is sparse.

The detection of chemical weapons may involve samples in which they are present at extremely low levels. Mass spectrometry is generally used for identification, typically GC/MS or LC/MS. Even with these techniques, identification may be difficult in situations where the molecular ion is weak or isomeric compounds could be present. It is important to recognise typical fragmentation pathways in order to reliably identify the compounds.

GC/MS and LC-MS/MS used for ‘Novichok’ agent detection

The Iranian researchers synthesised five ‘Novichok’ agents, along with four deuterated analogues. They were all O-alkyl N-[bis(dimethylamino)methylidene]-P-methylphosphonamidate compounds (i.e. molecules with the typical nerve agent phosphorus group coupled to N,N,N’N’-tetramethylguanidine). The O-alkyl group was varied, with the methoxy, ethoxy, isopropoxy, phenoxy, and 2,6-dimethylphenoxy derivatives being prepared. The syntheses were carried out on a micro-scale in order to minimize exposure.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Unfortunately we need proof they didn't.

Ah the old ones are the best eh. Keep it up 'arry. I wont tell anyone you have a Cambridge First. Oops.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And I look forward to our forum whackjobs disputing that because it's from RT.

"arry are OK, has the virus taken control of your brain?

Be very careful, delete the link, wipe your hard drive with a disinfected cloth and burn the cloth. Shower thoroughly, take a dump, burn any clothes worn whilst online to RT.

One more visit and you will be doomed forever. Doomed, doomed ........

On the other hand the TDART, (Teak Door Appreciation of Russia Today) group do sample great pizza. You do have to pledge secrecy and not name any of the RT clan. If you behave for your trial period we can show you how to access the RT hidden pages.

Answer this test question, "Is the UK statement, that Russia is the source, proven or not?"

Bsnub tried to join but was blackballed. That's why he constantly reds grandpa.

Post the answer on a blank web site and PM with the link.