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    A Inter-american Court of Human rights has issued and advisory notice regarding Julian Assages travel to Ecuador, where he is a citizen.

    The court rules on Human Rights issues.

    The adjudicatory function requires the Court to rule on cases brought before it in which a state party to the Convention, and thus has accepted its jurisdiction, is accused of a human rights violation.

    "The Inter-American Court of Human Rights is an autonomous judicial institution based in the city of San José, Costa Rica. Together with the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, it makes up the human rights protection system of the Organization of American States (OAS), which serves to uphold and promote basic rights and freedoms in the Americas.

    Advisory function


    The Court's advisory function enables it to respond to consultations submitted by OAS agencies and member states regarding the interpretation of the Convention or other instruments governing human rights in the Americas; it also empowers it to give advice on domestic laws and proposed legislation, and to clarify whether or not they are compatible with the Convention's provisions. This advisory jurisdiction is available to all OAS member states, not only those that have ratified the Convention and accepted the Court's adjudicatory function. The Court's replies to these consultations are published separately from its contentious judgments, as advisory opinions."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-...f_Human_Rights

    The "Americas" include all Ameican countries south of ameristan. Ameristan is a signatory to the court, but has not ratified the agreement, sound familiar? No mention of Canada.

    The court has ruled that Mr. Assange be given free passage from wherever he is, back to Ecuador.

    "Thus, States must arbitrate all the necessary means to protect persons in the event of a real risk to their life, integrity, liberty, or security if they were sent back. Similarly, since the legal status of the person cannot stay in limbo or be prolonged indefinitely, States must adopt measures which expedite suitable safe passage, which is why the Court recalled that the duty of cooperation between States in the promotion and observance of human rights is an erga omnes".

    https://www.eurasiafuture.com/2018/07/13/julian-assange-scores-major-legal-victory-as-court-orders-safe-passage-of-assange-out-of-embassy/

    http://www.corteidh.or.cr/docs/comunicados/cp_28_18_eng.pdf


    We shall now await the two non members accept the other American countries will and legal declaration, or thumb their noses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    A Inter-american Court of Human rights has issued and advisory notice regarding Julian Assages travel to Ecuador, where he is a citizen.
    Unless the British police signed it, who fucking cares?

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    Yep....if the US gets their claws into him, they'll hold him up, fvck him up, and generally screw him up.....for as long as they can. Not to mention a probably drug-aided interrogation.

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    Kill the messanger (especially now after new disclosures of Muller's investigation...)

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    Just another ameristani agreement forgotten when required.

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    Correct me if I am wrong (That was a stupid statement). As far as I am aware the USA has not signed the UN treaty against torture (or land mines or a shitload of other stuff). Therefore I would've thought that the EU would not send a citizen or resident to a country that still tortures people.At the moment I would imagine people in the UK are still subject to the european court of human rights. ( At least I would've thought most civilised countries would consider water boarding sleep deprivation, humiliation etc as torture).

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    could b worst but not much

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    From the Sunday Times via the Daily Mule.

    Britain is in secret talks with Ecuador to evict Wikileaks founder Julian Assange from its embassy in London.


    Senior foreign officials, believed to include the Foreign Office minister Sir Alan Duncan, are in talks to try and decide Mr Assange's future.

    He has been living at the embassy in Knightsbridge, in London, since June 2012 and is fearful he will be extradited to the United States if he leaves.

    The top-level discussions come just weeks before a UK visit by new Ecuador President Lenin Moreno who has previously called Assange a 'hacker' and a 'stone in the shoe', according to The Sunday Times.

    Britain 'is in secret talks with Ecuador in bid to evict Julian Assange from South American embassy' | Daily Mail Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The top-level discussions come just weeks before
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Britain is in secret talks with Ecuador to evict Wikileaks founder Julian Assange from its embassy in London.
    Britain, is there such an entity now, or more precisely the UK's secret deal, will adhere to EU CoHR legislation. Anyone know what rules apply, do they recognise the Inter-american Court of Human rights and who has precedence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    I would imagine people in the UK are still subject to the european court of human rights.
    If so presumably EU rules take precedence and any "secret" deal will have to be EU approved.

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    ^G.W.:"we do not torture"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Britain, is there such an entity now, or more precisely the UK's secret deal, will adhere to EU CoHR legislation. Anyone know what rules apply, do they recognise the Inter-american Court of Human rights and who has precedence?



    If so presumably EU rules take precedence and any "secret" deal will have to be EU approved.

    WTF does the EU have to do with a sovereign embassy wanting to get rid of their BO problem?

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    I suspect the EU human rights might be a guide, legally. That's assuming the EU recognises the existence of America south of ameristan Court of Humans rights, that is. Along with the UK still signed up for the EU human rights commitments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I suspect the EU human rights might be a guide, legally. That's assuming the EU recognises the existence of America south of ameristan Court of Humans rights, that is. Along with the UK still signed up for the EU human rights commitments.
    It doesn't matter a fucking jot what you "suspect".

    If Ecuador decides to kick him out of their embassy, it's their choice. Fuck all to do with the EU.

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    But the thing is : they can't just physically push him out the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong (That was a stupid statement). As far as I am aware the USA has not signed the UN treaty against torture (or land mines or a shitload of other stuff). Therefore I would've thought that the EU would not send a citizen or resident to a country that still tortures people.At the moment I would imagine people in the UK are still subject to the european court of human rights. ( At least I would've thought most civilised countries would consider water boarding sleep deprivation, humiliation etc as torture).
    " ( At least I would've thought most civilised countries would consider water boarding sleep deprivation, humiliation etc as torture)."

    Not
    ,...when the government is populated by a gang of... arrogant, self-righteous puritans...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    But the thing is : they can't just physically push him out the door.
    It's Ecuadorian territory: They can do what they fucking like under their laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's Ecuadorian territory: They can do what they fucking like under their laws.
    As an Ecuadorian citizen is it not the Ecuador government's duty to protect him from "highly likely" torture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    As an Ecuadorian citizen is it not the Ecuador government's duty to protect him from "highly likely" torture?
    Where do their laws say that then?

    I'll even take a sputnik link if you can find one.



    Not to mention that they can strip his citizenship if they feel like it and kick him out for being persona non grata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Where do their laws say that then?
    Here for your education is a link to the Ecuadorian Constitution. Chapters 1 and 2 set out the principals. All is revealed.

    Ecuador: 2008 Constitution in English

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Here for your education is a link to the Ecuadorian Constitution. Chapters 1 and 2 set out the principals. All is revealed.

    Ecuador: 2008 Constitution in English
    * principles.

    Yeah but

    Not to mention that they can strip his citizenship if they feel like it and kick him out for being persona non grata.

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    Harry no doubt has all the up to date news on Assange care to share.?

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    Pamela Anderson wants to fuck him so his life is pretty well over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Pamela Anderson wants to fuck him so his life is pretty well over.
    Has she gave permission to mount her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Not to mention that they can strip his citizenship
    Care to list the countries with such laws? Care to post a link regarding Ecuador, in particular, having such a law? To add some substance to your posted assertions.

    As is required by the "Rules Based System", here on TD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Pamela Anderson wants to fuck him so his life is pretty well over.
    With or without a condom?

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