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    German election 2017: Populists to win first far-right Bundestag seats since WW2

    GERMANY is set to have its first far-right party elected to Parliament since the end of World War 2, if polls for the upcoming state elections are correct.

    By ROSS LOGAN
    PUBLISHED: 13:13, Thu, Aug 31, 2017 | UPDATED: 13:34, Thu, Aug 31, 2017



    The AfD party are set to be the first far-right party at the Bundestag since WW2
    The Alternative for Germany (AfD) is currently well above the five per cent margin required to win seats in Parliament, with a current standing of between seven and 10 per cent.

    The party rose to prominence two years ago at the height of the European migrant crisis and the wave of populism that came partly as a result of the influx of refugees into Germany.

    Back then the party commanded a considerably larger share of the opinion polls with about 15 per cent, but has gradually fallen back as the populist movement which threatened to overwhelm Europe subsided.

    Nevertheless AfD remains on course for an historic victory next month, a prospect that will set alarm bells ringing across much of Europe, Politico reported.

    The idea that a far-right party could win seats in the Bundestag while blaming a specific ethnic group for the nation's troubles was, until very recently, unthinkable.

    But the decision by Chancellor Angela Merkel to welcome almost a million migrants and refugees into Germany since 2015 has divided the nation, and stirred a sense of anger and resentment not seen in Germany for many years.



    Leading AfD candidates Alice Weidel and Alexander Gauland are bound for parliament
    While the AfD was founded in 2013 as a eurosceptic party, it found purchase as an anti-immigrant movement opposed to the perceived "Islamification' of Germany.

    The mass sex assaults in Cologne on New Years Eve in 2016 helped boost anti-migrant sentiment and position the AfD as a seemingly legitimate political alternative, a feeling that was reflected across the much continent.

    It led to the likes of Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen emerging as surprisingly popular election candidates in the respective Dutch and French elections, although both were soundly beaten by more moderate opposition.



    AfD supporters have been haranguing Angela Merkel since the election campaigns began
    But while those results were viewed as the breaking of the populist wave, the AfD has managed to cling onto relevance in Germany.

    And the party has done so despite repeated comparisons to the Nazis, an accusation some of its leading election candidates have done little to challenge.

    Last week AfD co-founder Alexander Gauland was sued for inciting racial hatred after calling for Aydan ÷zoğuz, the government’s commissioner for integration, to be "disposed of in Anatolia". Ms Ozoguz comes from a Turkish background.



    Chancellor Merkel BOOED and HECKLED by angry crowds

    Both Ms Merkel and her Social Democrat rival Martin Schulz branded the comments "racist".

    Mr Schulz said: “We must do everything to ensure that such racists don’t enter the Bundestag!”

    Anti-immigration campaigners from the AfD have been protesting against Ms Merkel since she hit the campaign trail in early August.

    This week she was heckled by AfD supporters as she attempted to deliver an election campaign speech in Brandenburg City.

    AfD set to win first far-right seats in Germany since WW2 | World | News | Express.co.uk

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    I am in Frakfurt and never saw so many immigrants, refugees, beggars, drunk in the streets in anywhere else in the world

    i can see how germans would want to vote to get rid of all the garbage in the streets

    Merkel is delusional and not living in reality,

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    I concur, the red light district did look quite dangerous, a lot of drunks going crazies, drug people everywhere, it was a fucking mess

    and they want to move UK banks here ? they better start clean up for Brexit

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    Of course there's parts of Brentwood, Baltimore and les cites around Paris that make Frankfuters seem like Pussy Cats

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    Frankfurt am Main rates as the most dangerous city in Germany with 16,292 crimes per 100,000 people. Its high ranking was put down to its red light district and the large airport.
    Such high rates have been there for the last 70 years... not only because of the (latest) immigrants

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    Ain't seen nothing yet, when till Merkel snatches another term in 3 weeks.

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    The use of the word "Populists" in the title of the OP is extremely misleading. It implies that these people are popular, which obviously they're not or they would be running the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I am in Frakfurt and never saw so many immigrants, refugees, beggars, drunk in the streets in anywhere else in the world

    i can see how germans would want to vote to get rid of all the garbage in the streets

    Merkel is delusional and not living in reality,
    Draggingflea is leaning to the right...??

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    One must feel a degree of sympathy for the Germans who seem to be so paranoid of right wing parties due to their past.
    Germany is not the country it was in th 20s and 30s and the people should not fear the far right or far left any more than other advanced industrialised European countries.
    Everyone from the far left to the far right deserve to be heard in a democratic country. Whether people disagree or not.
    Years ago a British "historian" was denied a visa to Oz due to his views that the jewish "holocaust" was a myth. I believed it would've been better for him to come and have his views challenged.

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    It's the Yerman Antifa terrorists who are the real danger.

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    It was a pleasure to meet only German and Italian people on my week away, as they are more intelligent and educated than English speaking people.
    One of the good things about talking to true native people is that you get the real truth about the way they feel and think .
    Not the brainwashing propagander of the mainstream media that's distorted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi
    you get the real truth about the way they feel and think
    And what do they feel and think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi
    as they are more intelligent and educated than English speaking people.
    who isn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    It was a pleasure to meet only German and Italian people on my week away, as they are more intelligent and educated than English speaking people.
    One of the good things about talking to true native people is that you get the real truth about the way they feel and think .
    Not the brainwashing propagander of the mainstream media that's distorted.
    True, in the UK you will be met by a smattering of semi literate English from Poles, Latvians, Hungarians, Bulgarians etc etc, who seem to occupy all but the most rural of British locales in the service sector. Going to a pub in the UK now is like being on holiday without the sunshine, i.e. ordering food and drink in pidgin English in the belief that the staff will understand you. When you have to point at a shelf or a pump to get the drink of your choice in your 'local', you know that times have changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie View Post
    The use of the word "Populists" in the title of the OP is extremely misleading. It implies that these people are popular, which obviously they're not or they would be running the country.
    They are not popular, but "populist" in the sense that they appeal to wide range of people across the political spectrum by taking grievances & frustrations seriously and offering cheap solutions. Similar to the UKIP their platform consists of a very narrow range of issues.

    As inevitable with issues of immigration control, national identity etc., the party is infested with extremists, which has already reduced the initial popularity.
    More than 5% of the votes is still a lot, but keep in mind that a sizable proportion will be protest votes from people who are dissatisfied with the established parties.

    Similarly, the "Pirates" had a brief surge in popularity a few years ago, but have disappeared into obscurity now.

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    [QUOTE="Dragonfly"]who isn't [/QUOTE

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
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    It was a pleasure to meet only German and Italian people on my week away, as they are more intelligent and educated than English speaking people.
    One of the good things about talking to true native people is that you get the real truth about the way they feel and think .
    Not the brainwashing propagander of the mainstream media that's distorted.
    True, in the UK you will be met by a smattering of semi literate English from Poles, Latvians, Hungarians, Bulgarians etc etc, who seem to occupy all but the most rural of British locales in the service sector. Going to a pub in the UK now is like being on holiday without the sunshine, i.e. ordering food and drink in pidgin English in the belief that the staff will understand you. When you have to point at a shelf or a pump to get the drink of your choice in your 'local', you know that times have changed.
    Says somebody posting from Phuket Next time you're in UK try NOT speaking in pidgin English (a bad habit often picked up in Thailand) and you'll find life a lot easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
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    It was a pleasure to meet only German and Italian people on my week away, as they are more intelligent and educated than English speaking people.
    One of the good things about talking to true native people is that you get the real truth about the way they feel and think .
    Not the brainwashing propagander of the mainstream media that's distorted.
    True, in the UK you will be met by a smattering of semi literate English from Poles, Latvians, Hungarians, Bulgarians etc etc, who seem to occupy all but the most rural of British locales in the service sector. Going to a pub in the UK now is like being on holiday without the sunshine, i.e. ordering food and drink in pidgin English in the belief that the staff will understand you. When you have to point at a shelf or a pump to get the drink of your choice in your 'local', you know that times have changed.
    Says somebody posting from Phuket Next time you're in UK try NOT speaking in pidgin English (a bad habit often picked up in Thailand) and you'll find life a lot easier.
    You're right. My experience based on a 2 months visit 2 years ago. Rural Devon with Romanian and Latvian bar staff (could be my lack of Devon accent). Need a taxi? Good chance the driver will be an Afghan. Heathrow's passport/immigration/security counters I might have been in Mumbai or Karachi. Need a drink or food before the flight? Luckily a smile and a greeting in Russian (they all understand Russian) gets prompt and pleasant service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG
    Heathrow's passport/immigration/security counters I might have been in Mumbai or Karachi.
    My impression too. At Heathrow for a moment I thought I had slept through a long distance flight and had touched down in Karachi for transfer. Especially security was all Pakistani, very reassuring.

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    Merkel will be safely re-elected. Nothing to get the Brexiteers hopes up when it comes to Germany. The people are as sensible and reliable as their soccer team. Pity the same can no longer be said for the brits....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
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    It was a pleasure to meet only German and Italian people on my week away, as they are more intelligent and educated than English speaking people.
    One of the good things about talking to true native people is that you get the real truth about the way they feel and think .
    Not the brainwashing propagander of the mainstream media that's distorted.
    True, in the UK you will be met by a smattering of semi literate English from Poles, Latvians, Hungarians, Bulgarians etc etc, who seem to occupy all but the most rural of British locales in the service sector. Going to a pub in the UK now is like being on holiday without the sunshine, i.e. ordering food and drink in pidgin English in the belief that the staff will understand you. When you have to point at a shelf or a pump to get the drink of your choice in your 'local', you know that times have changed.
    Says somebody posting from Phuket Next time you're in UK try NOT speaking in pidgin English (a bad habit often picked up in Thailand) and you'll find life a lot easier.
    You're right. My experience based on a 2 months visit 2 years ago. Rural Devon with Romanian and Latvian bar staff (could be my lack of Devon accent). Need a taxi? Good chance the driver will be an Afghan. Heathrow's passport/immigration/security counters I might have been in Mumbai or Karachi. Need a drink or food before the flight? Luckily a smile and a greeting in Russian (they all understand Russian) gets prompt and pleasant service.
    You'll find that most of them have learned fluent English by now. Not being English many of them have had a reasonable education and have little difficulty learning new languages.

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    Published on Aug 31, 2017

    Just days after Charlottesville, more than 500 neo-Nazis marched through Berlin in the largest fascist rally the city has seen in more than a decade. VICE News speaks with rally participants and anti-fascist counterprotesters.


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