Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 52
  1. #26
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 10:51 PM
    Location
    NAKON SAWAN
    Posts
    5,119
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    My post has nothing to do with the state of ISIS
    Of course not you do not care about the fact that ISIS is already on its last legs. You only care about the BS propaganda that inevitably will come out claiming that Drumpf "defeated" IS when its demise is already inevitable thanks mainly to the Syrian Kurds.

    Facts don't matter to your "ilk".
    Where did I say I don't care.

  2. #27
    Thailand Expat
    Scottish Gary's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Last Online
    03-06-2020 @ 05:25 AM
    Location
    Flying in and flying out
    Posts
    1,348
    We should be supporting the Kurds all we can. They are our best allies on the ground and the most democratic of all the groups fighting in the area.
    The Islamist Turks cannot be trusted and are no friends to the west.

  3. #28
    Thailand Expat
    tomcat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    12,079
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Maybe you can show where I even implied that
    certainly: here you are...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Theocracy...has nothing to do with evangelical Christians
    Evangelicals have long voted for people who want to blur the solid line between religion and state...as more evangelicals are elected to positions of authority, freedoms granted by the constitution and supported by the Supreme Court will suffer the same blurring: see the states whose political leaders have attempted to curtail and outlaw a woman's right to abortion; see the states that have tried to legislate religious exemptions so evangelicals may avoid serving gays in public establishments and curtail their right to marry; see the members of Congress who use religious references in attempts to persuade others that we need Jebus uber alles...these are all steps taken toward a theocracy in which the likes of Billy Graham, Rick Warren, the Ahmanson horrors and David Barton will lead their flocks to intolerance, narrow mindedness and ignorance. These are the first steps to a theocracy...and you, rpeter, are a foot soldier in that unconstitutional struggle...shame!...
    Majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd

  4. #29
    Elite Mumbler
    pickel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Isolation
    Posts
    5,878
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Back to ISIS, I doubt they will ever be truly defeated maybe run out of any dominance in Iraq or Iran but the ISIS movement is not going away.
    Iran? Are you really that ignorant? Iranian backed Shia militia's were doing most of the fighting against ISIS in Iraq until the Iraqi army recently found some courage (or Yankee dollars).

  5. #30
    Thailand Expat
    bsnub's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    20,812
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat
    and you, rpeter, are a foot soldier in that unconstitutional struggle...
    Indeed he is. A hopeless dogma slave.

  6. #31
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 10:51 PM
    Location
    NAKON SAWAN
    Posts
    5,119
    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Back to ISIS, I doubt they will ever be truly defeated maybe run out of any dominance in Iraq or Iran but the ISIS movement is not going away.
    Iran? Are you really that ignorant? Iranian backed Shia militia's were doing most of the fighting against ISIS in Iraq until the Iraqi army recently found some courage (or Yankee dollars).
    Sorry for getting everybody excited I actually meant Syria.

  7. #32
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 10:51 PM
    Location
    NAKON SAWAN
    Posts
    5,119
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Maybe you can show where I even implied that
    certainly: here you are...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Theocracy...has nothing to do with evangelical Christians
    Evangelicals have long voted for people who want to blur the solid line between religion and state...as more evangelicals are elected to positions of authority, freedoms granted by the constitution and supported by the Supreme Court will suffer the same blurring: see the states whose political leaders have attempted to curtail and outlaw a woman's right to abortion; see the states that have tried to legislate religious exemptions so evangelicals may avoid serving gays in public establishments and curtail their right to marry; see the members of Congress who use religious references in attempts to persuade others that we need Jebus uber alles...these are all steps taken toward a theocracy in which the likes of Billy Graham, Rick Warren, the Ahmanson horrors and David Barton will lead their flocks to intolerance, narrow mindedness and ignorance. These are the first steps to a theocracy...and you, rpeter, are a foot soldier in that unconstitutional struggle...shame!...


    Your ignorance of evangelical Christians astounds me.Yes we are vocal in our beliefs and have a good deal to say about what we think is wrong but do we want to control non believers,no. There is a lot more to the abortion issue than what you seem to see as only from a religious stand point you don't even consider the infanticide aspect, you are so hung up on women's rights you refuse to consider it.
    You use the constitution to promote the rights of one group over another how about equal rights how about sense ability ,in every case of aChristian refusing to support what they don't believe in there is an alternative for the aggrieved party.There is absolutely no evidence of Christians refusing to serve gays in public establishments,if doing so doesn't violate their convictions.
    It seems most important of all you either have zero knowledge of what the New Testament teaches about believers interactions with non believers,give unto Caesar what is Caesar's and obay the the government's laws if they do not violate Gods laws, or you choose to ignore.You see Christians are not seeking a Theocratic government they are looking only to have the right to live according to their beliefs. Christian leaders are not looking to attract non believers in an attempt to further an agenda they are only teaching what they believe in accordance to God's word.

  8. #33
    Thailand Expat
    bsnub's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    20,812
    ^ Do you think Christian are more persecuted than Muslims and Jews in America?

  9. #34
    Member John Lennon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    On the outside looking in
    Posts
    547
    !!! Black Americans !!!

  10. #35
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 10:51 PM
    Location
    NAKON SAWAN
    Posts
    5,119
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ^ Do you think Christian are more persecuted than Muslims and Jews in America?
    Where did I mention persecuted? But from the government yes.

  11. #36
    Thailand Expat
    bsnub's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    20,812
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    But from the government yes.


    I knew that would be your answer. You people are insane.

  12. #37
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 10:51 PM
    Location
    NAKON SAWAN
    Posts
    5,119
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    But from the government yes.


    I knew that would be your answer. You people are insane.
    Then why did you ask?

    Can anyone disagree with you and not be insane?

  13. #38
    Thailand Expat
    tomcat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    12,079
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    There is a lot more to the abortion issue than what you seem to see as only from a religious stand point you don't even consider the infanticide aspect,
    What a woman decides to do with her body is her business only...evangelical politicians have tried mightily to block such freedom...that is an imposition of their narrow and ignorant views on to others...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    you are so hung up on women's rights you refuse to consider it.
    infanticide in this context is Christian incendiary nonsense...how about restricting condoms in 3rd world Catholic countries unable to feed even the babies they are birthing now...that's infanticide...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    You use the constitution to promote the rights of one group over another
    Nonsense: the constitution protects the rights of all citizens, not just those who agree with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    how about equal rights
    totally in favor, without the suggestion that equal rights means protecting those who want separate rights to suit their peculiar beliefs...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    There is absolutely no evidence of Christians refusing to serve gays in public establishments,if doing so doesn't violate their convictions.
    yeah, that last part is a bit disingenuous: when the conflict is between personal convictions and the constitution, the latter (thankfully) wins...as it should...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Your ignorance of evangelical Christians astounds me.
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    It seems most important of all you either have zero knowledge of what the New Testament teaches
    I'm familiar with the creation myths of a number of religions, but I must say the hallucinations and ramblings of the Apostles have never held my attention...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    you see Christians are not seeking a Theocratic government they are looking only to have the right to live according to their beliefs.
    That's fine: as long as those beliefs don't deny the rights of others
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Christian leaders are not looking to attract non believers in an attempt to further an agenda they are only teaching what they believe in accordance to God's word.
    The purpose of evangelism is to attract adherents to a particular viewpoint (read agenda)...evangelists may teach what they believe in their houses of worship, but such speech is not appropriate in political assemblies where the word of a deity is used to reinforce hatred, intolerance and....have I mentioned ignorance?...

    I hope I cleared that up for you...

  14. #39
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 10:51 PM
    Location
    NAKON SAWAN
    Posts
    5,119
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    There is a lot more to the abortion issue than what you seem to see as only from a religious stand point you don't even consider the infanticide aspect,
    What a woman decides to do with her body is her business only...evangelical politicians have tried mightily to block such freedom...that is an imposition of their narrow and ignorant views on to others...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    you are so hung up on women's rights you refuse to consider it.
    infanticide in this context is Christian incendiary nonsense...how about restricting condoms in 3rd world Catholic countries unable to feed even the babies they are birthing now...that's infanticide...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    You use the constitution to promote the rights of one group over another
    Nonsense: the constitution protects the rights of all citizens, not just those who agree with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    how about equal rights
    totally in favor, without the suggestion that equal rights means protecting those who want separate rights to suit their peculiar beliefs...

    yeah, that last part is a bit disingenuous: when the conflict is between personal convictions and the constitution, the latter (thankfully) wins...as it should...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Your ignorance of evangelical Christians astounds me.
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    It seems most important of all you either have zero knowledge of what the New Testament teaches
    I'm familiar with the creation myths of a number of religions, but I must say the hallucinations and ramblings of the Apostles have never held my attention...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    you see Christians are not seeking a Theocratic government they are looking only to have the right to live according to their beliefs.
    That's fine: as long as those beliefs don't deny the rights of others
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Christian leaders are not looking to attract non believers in an attempt to further an agenda they are only teaching what they believe in accordance to God's word.
    The purpose of evangelism is to attract adherents to a particular viewpoint (read agenda)...evangelists may teach what they believe in their houses of worship, but such speech is not appropriate in political assemblies where the word of a deity is used to reinforce hatred, intolerance and....have I mentioned ignorance?...

    I hope I cleared that up for you...

    Sorry to break it to you but you cleared nothing up,just the same old crap,let Christians be Christians only if their deep held beliefs don't cause a minor imposition to any one particular class.

  15. #40
    Thailand Expat
    tomcat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    12,079
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    let Christians be Christians only if their deep held beliefs don't cause a minor imposition to any one particular class.
    ...except for the word "minor", not a bad summary of constitutional rights...I'm heartened that you've been listening...now for the action part: burn the bible, baby...

  16. #41
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 10:51 PM
    Location
    NAKON SAWAN
    Posts
    5,119
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    let Christians be Christians only if their deep held beliefs don't cause a minor imposition to any one particular class.
    ...except for the word "minor", not a bad summary of constitutional rights...I'm heartened that you've been listening...now for the action part: burn the bible, baby...
    I have been listening to your nonsense but not buying it.

    So now you want to restrict the constitutional rights of Christians and burn the book they draw their beliefs from,somehow I sense you are only a supporter of the constitution as it fits your agenda. Typical non thinking liberal.

  17. #42
    Thailand Expat
    tomcat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    12,079
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat
    Nonsense: the constitution protects the rights of all citizens, not just those who agree with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    So now you want to restrict the constitutional rights of Christians
    *sigh*...Christ has blinded you to what others are clearly saying...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    burn the book they draw their beliefs from
    well, it's a start...I'd also like to try a little conversion therapy on those who claim to be blinded by the light...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    I sense you are only a supporter of the constitution as it fits your agenda
    ...see above...if you can...

    I understand that you're but one of a long chain of victims, raised in darkness and fear...so please understand that while I find your "beliefs" silly, I know you only want to be loved...

  18. #43
    Thailand Expat
    bsnub's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    20,812



  19. #44
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 10:51 PM
    Location
    NAKON SAWAN
    Posts
    5,119
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat
    Nonsense: the constitution protects the rights of all citizens, not just those who agree with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    So now you want to restrict the constitutional rights of Christians
    *sigh*...Christ has blinded you to what others are clearly saying...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    burn the book they draw their beliefs from
    well, it's a start...I'd also like to try a little conversion therapy on those who claim to be blinded by the light...
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    I sense you are only a supporter of the constitution as it fits your agenda
    ...see above...if you can...

    I understand that you're but one of a long chain of victims, raised in darkness and fear...so please understand that while I find your "beliefs" silly, I know you only want to be loved...


    FYI I was not raised in a Christian home,so don't bother to spout the brainwashed from birth garbage. So how would Christians be victims what do non believers have that Christians don't?

  20. #45
    Thailand Expat
    tomcat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    12,079
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    what do non believers have that Christians don't?
    rational thought supported by empirical evidence that describes the world as we understand it...no ghosts, no satans, no devils, no angels, no miracles...no supernatural anything concerning a personal god with a scorecard...none of that...just a clear-eyed view of how humanity got to where it is...but that's beside the point: you're entitled to your silliness just as I'm entitled to my cynicism...however, let's keep uppermost in our minds that it is the constitution and concrete separation of church and state that matter most...not the bleatings of a truly warped (and wealthy) Falwell or his kind...requesting special rights to avoid hurt feelings is not only anti-social and separatist, it's unconstitutional...

  21. #46
    Member
    UrbanMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Behind a fake IP address
    Posts
    892
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    let Christians be Christians only if their deep held beliefs don't cause
    I know many self-described Christians who don't want to impose every dotted I and crossed T on every one else. Some Muslims also. Need more of both of them.

  22. #47
    Thailand Expat
    tomcat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    12,079
    hear! hear! equal rights to all...

  23. #48
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 10:51 PM
    Location
    NAKON SAWAN
    Posts
    5,119
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    what do non believers have that Christians don't?
    rational thought supported by empirical evidence that describes the world as we understand it...no ghosts, no satans, no devils, no angels, no miracles...no supernatural anything concerning a personal god with a scorecard...none of that...just a clear-eyed view of how humanity got to where it is...but that's beside the point: you're entitled to your silliness just as I'm entitled to my cynicism...however, let's keep uppermost in our minds that it is the constitution and concrete separation of church and state that matter most...not the bleatings of a truly warped (and wealthy) Falwell or his kind...requesting special rights to avoid hurt feelings is not only anti-social and separatist, it's unconstitutional...
    There is so much more to be said on this very complicated subject but for 2 reasons I will not continue.

    1. This is not th right thread and I will not continue participate further in dragging dsnubs thread of topic.


    2. As you have your blinders on and have said yourself you have no desire to truly understand the Christian life it is absolutely pointless.

  24. #49
    Thailand Expat
    bsnub's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    20,812
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    I will not continue participate further in dragging dsnubs thread of topic.
    A little late for that. Maybe you two should get a room and this conversation can became your own doghouse thread.

  25. #50
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 10:51 PM
    Location
    NAKON SAWAN
    Posts
    5,119
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    I will not continue participate further in dragging dsnubs thread of topic.
    A little late for that. Maybe you two should get a room and this conversation can became your own doghouse thread.
    Maybe you should have not drug it off topic in the first place.

    Seems you didn't read reason 2.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •