Thread: Israeli PM summons US ambassador amid UN vote row

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

It's a convenient catch-all cryptonym for evil to throw at anything remotely unenthusiastic about them.

Indeed.

Originally Posted by ENT

What gets me about the whole Palestine/Israel thing is that both Palestinians and Jews are both descended from the same ancestral groups living in Palestine 2000 years ago.

Ahhh but the Jewish god promised the land to them. From the river to the sea. And that, aside from sheer greed, is their excuse and they're sticking to it.
Can't argue with God, can we?

I think your allawallahs, who use some of the same scriptures and worship the same god as the Jews claim a similar privilege.

Originally Posted by ENT

I think your allawallahs, who use some of the same scriptures and worship the same god as the Jews claim a similar privilege.

The difference being that the US (until this latest abstention instead of veto) has chosen to support the Zionist god's promise.

Come to that, as a matter of interest, where do the Muslim scriptures state that from the river to the sea is promised to Muslims by God?

Who are my allahwallahs? I'm not aware that I have any.

Originally Posted by ENT

If that land of Israel (including Jerusalem) does indeed belong to the Jews, as stated in the koran, then why the Muslim stoush against Jews in the "Holy land"?

I have only ever mentioned "the promised land" with sarcasm as it is preposterous to think that in an age of international law people could make a claim based on their own religion.
You are entertaining the idea that a religious text gives the Jews legitimacy!



I am as much an "allahwallah" as you are a Hasbara troll.
(Actually, I am probably less)

Originally Posted by ENT

As an Israeli apologist or supporter

Fixed that for ya.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by ENT

If that land of Israel (including Jerusalem) does indeed belong to the Jews, as stated in the koran, then why the Muslim stoush against Jews in the "Holy land"?

You are entertaining the idea that a religious text gives the Jews legitimacy!

Not at all, read my post.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Israeli defence minister Avigdor Lieberman has likened an upcoming peace conference in France to the trial of Alfred Dreyfus. "Tis is the modern version of the Dreyfus trial" he said.

He also said: "This might also be the time to tell French Jews - that is not your country, that is not your land. Leave France and come to Israel."

PM Netanyahu has reportedly advised his ministers to refrain from travelling to countries that supported the UN resolution as well as meeting with officials representing those countries.

Netanyahu has also halted Israeli funding of five UN bodies.

Well lets see the U.S. stop funding Israel and see how they do.
Pity Trump is such an Israeli asslicker.
He'sll be opening up accounts in the Bahamas as we speak.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Christ almighty, who's shooting at little kids FFS.?

NZ declares war on Israel.

Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told New Zealand’s foreign minister that support for a UN resolution condemning Israeli settlement-building in the occupied territories would be viewed as a “declaration of war”.

According to reports in Israeli media, the Israeli PM called Murray McCully, the foreign minister of New Zealand, before Friday’s resolution, which was co-sponsored by Wellington. Netanyahu told him: “This is a scandalous decision. I’m asking that you not support it and not promote it.

“If you continue to promote this resolution, from our point of view it will be a declaration of war. It will rupture the relations and there will be consequences. We’ll recall our ambassador [from New Zealand] to Jerusalem.”

McCully, however, refused to back down, telling Netanyahu: “This resolution conforms to our policy and we will move it forward.”

A western diplomat confirmed that the call took place and described the conversation as “harsh”.

The details of the call – disclosed in Haaretz – suggest a mounting sense of panic on the part of Netanyahu in the run-up to the UN security council resolution that passed on Friday demanding an end to settlement building.

As well as the Netanyahu call, a senior official in Israel’s foreign ministry called New Zealand’s ambassador to Israel, Jonathan Curr, and warned that if the resolution came to a vote, Israel might close its embassy in Wellington in protest.

Israel responded furiously to the vote, threatening diplomatic reprisals against the countries that voted in favour. Diplomatic ties with New Zealand were temporarily severed and ambassador Itzhak Gerberg was recalled.

But in a sign that the international pressure may be being felt by the Netanyahu administration, scheduled plans to consider for approval 600 new settlement houses in occupied east Jerusalem were abruptly removed from the agenda of the city’s municipality on Wednesday.

Netanyahu’s language and behaviour – which has resulted in ambassadors being reprimanded and consultations with foreign leaders, including the UK’s Theresa May, cancelled – has raised eyebrows among foreign diplomats, who point out that the UN resolution does no more than confirm the longstanding view of the international community on Jewish settlements.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...aration-of-war

^^ Israeli snipers. Just like in this one, where the boys were playing on the roof.

Originally Posted by Cujo

NZ declares war on Israel.

Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told New Zealand’s foreign minister that support for a UN resolution condemning Israeli settlement-building in the occupied territories would be viewed as a “declaration of war”.

According to reports in Israeli media, the Israeli PM called Murray McCully, the foreign minister of New Zealand, before Friday’s resolution, which was co-sponsored by Wellington. Netanyahu told him: “This is a scandalous decision. I’m asking that you not support it and not promote it.

“If you continue to promote this resolution, from our point of view it will be a declaration of war. It will rupture the relations and there will be consequences. We’ll recall our ambassador [from New Zealand] to Jerusalem.”

McCully, however, refused to back down, telling Netanyahu: “This resolution conforms to our policy and we will move it forward.”

A western diplomat confirmed that the call took place and described the conversation as “harsh”.

The details of the call – disclosed in Haaretz – suggest a mounting sense of panic on the part of Netanyahu in the run-up to the UN security council resolution that passed on Friday demanding an end to settlement building.

As well as the Netanyahu call, a senior official in Israel’s foreign ministry called New Zealand’s ambassador to Israel, Jonathan Curr, and warned that if the resolution came to a vote, Israel might close its embassy in Wellington in protest.

Israel responded furiously to the vote, threatening diplomatic reprisals against the countries that voted in favour. Diplomatic ties with New Zealand were temporarily severed and ambassador Itzhak Gerberg was recalled.

But in a sign that the international pressure may be being felt by the Netanyahu administration, scheduled plans to consider for approval 600 new settlement houses in occupied east Jerusalem were abruptly removed from the agenda of the city’s municipality on Wednesday.

Netanyahu’s language and behaviour – which has resulted in ambassadors being reprimanded and consultations with foreign leaders, including the UK’s Theresa May, cancelled – has raised eyebrows among foreign diplomats, who point out that the UN resolution does no more than confirm the longstanding view of the international community on Jewish settlements.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...aration-of-war

Nothing of this in the NZ Herald, though a few days ago there was a report of McCully taking the call, but no mention of the content.

Blustering arrogant hawk, threatening war if he doesn't get his way. What a jerk.

"scheduled plans to consider for approval 600 new settlement houses in occupied east Jerusalem were abruptly removed from the agenda of the city’s municipality on Wednesday."
I'll take that as a positive effect.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Christ almighty, who's shooting at little kids FFS.?

Arabs.

A fake movie, made in Syria.

The kid supposedly hit would have been blown backwards not forwards, and the little girl hiding behind the car was in line of fire all the time.

Originally Posted by ENT

he kid supposedly hit would have been blown backwards not forwards,

You watch too much Hollywood.

Originally Posted by ENT

and the little girl hiding behind the car was in line of fire all the time

Really? Where were the shots coming from? Try to detail a 360 degree horizontal scenario from the video. Go on, tell us from which angle the shots were coming, and that she was in line of sight.
Actually, you imply that they would have shot her if they could have seen her. THAT I believe.


But for the sake of argument (and ignoring the Hasbara propaganda), lets say it's a fake video. Is the other one I posted fake? Are the multiple videos of Israeli helicopters dropping white phosphorous on civilians fake? Are the burn injuries to Palestinian children fake? Is the 3000 plus death toll from Isreal's last slaughter fake? Are the multiple agency reports of over 500 Palestinian dead children fake?

Lets say it's a fake video. Consider why it was made. The US and the world IGNORE real crimes against Palestinian children (and the rest of the world only "ignore" because of the US veto against censuring Israel....they are powerless....in fact the rest of the world deplore Israel's crimes, but the US has the veto, so Israel continues to murder children.

How can you sleep at night, or look at yourself in the mirror each morning when you KNOW for a fact that Israel treats the Palestinians as less than vermin, to be exterminated, and still support the Israelis?

You know the video was fake, the rest of your post is smokescreen.

Bleat on.

Since declaration of war on New Zealand should Israelis in NZ be interned as enemy aliens?

Originally Posted by david44

Since declaration of war on New Zealand should Israelis in NZ be interned as enemy aliens?

I think it was NZ who declared war on Israel by voting to condemn the building of settlements, but yes, put them in camps anyway.

Think indicted BB got the retaliation in first

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...aration-of-war

Perhasp some Maori paras on the Temple Mount , I'm sure the Anzac traing be handy in Mid East

Maori - Minority Rights Group

Maybe we can also kick off the European invaders from the Fiji Islands and give it back to its indigenous people.

We should have USA hand back Hawaii to the indigenous population too.

We've got some Jew bashing Ockers on this forum barking mad about the poor Pallies, but continue to ignore, mistreat and generally abuse their indigenous population of Aboriginals, unless they play football.


Double standards?

Originally Posted by ENT

We've got some Jew bashing Ockers on this forum barking mad about the poor Pallies, but continue to ignore, mistreat and generally abuse their indigenous population of Aboriginals,

How do you know what any Israel-criticiser does with regard to other indigenous people?
Some Australians support Palestine. Australia has a bad record with Aborigines. You can not draw your conclusion. It's illogical as usual.

I don't know how you've got through your long life with your startling lack of reasoning ability.

Originally Posted by ENT

You know the video was fake, the rest of your post is smokescreen.

Bleat on.

I don't know it's fake, and you've offered only your based-on-Hollywood spaghetti western knowledge of ballistics and firing angles.
And you refuse to answer about the other video. You know it's not fake and you know it shows typical Israel murder.
You'd be more credible if once in a while you'd face up to facts when they are presented to you.

^^ Your repetitive Ant sourced derogatory jingoism is pathetic petal.

Try to be original if you can't be intelligent.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by ENT

You know the video was fake, the rest of your post is smokescreen.

Bleat on.

I don't know it's fake, and you've offered only your based-on-Hollywood spaghetti western knowledge of ballistics and firing angles.
And you refuse to answer about the other video. You know it's not fake and you know it shows typical Israel murder.
You'd be more credible if once in a while you'd face up to facts when they are presented to you.

Total rubbish.
The Syrian video's fake, read up on it.
You can't distinguish between a put up fake movie and reality, largely because you've been raised on a diet of sensationalist videos and movies.

You probably think you saw the planes hitting WTC 1 and 2, just like all the other deluded folk claim, when in fact all you saw were CNN and other video cook-ups.

The second video (the one you posted) shows shots fired and an adult (not a child) hopping away, no one murdered, just your wild imagination and exaggeration at play once more.

Facts don't register in your scheme of things, propaganda, jingoism and blind rhetoric do.